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Re: Ya know what? new
      #358303 - 05/02/10 04:09 PM
Naturapanic

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Yes...and I just may.
Question is, doesn't marijuna of today usually get "spiked" with LSD and isn't very dangerous as opposed to the kind 40 years ago?

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Re: Ya know what? new
      #358306 - 05/02/10 05:03 PM
dragonfly

Reged: 05/12/08
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I drink rum and coke once in a while.

why do you need to get loaded?That's immature.

Unless you want to wear a speedo(ugh shudder) Why not wear shorts like everyone else does.
And guys who get loaded every weekend and drink beer all the time have a bloated gut too.They still wear bathing suits.

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Re: depressed and need some uplifting. new
      #358310 - 05/02/10 06:36 PM
Janey

Reged: 10/25/03
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I am sorry that you are feeling down. I have certainly been there myself many times. Do you take a SFS? How about peppermint caps or tea? I am also D and acacia is really helpful for me. Have you tried the hypno program?

I am glad to hear the the colonoscopy was ok. The prep definitely is horrible but the procedure is really no big deal. At least you can have peace of mind about what you don't have.


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thanks! (i'll just reply here) new
      #358337 - 05/03/10 10:24 PM
fairleas

Reged: 05/05/09
Posts: 87
Loc: USA

I'll just reply here to everyone, since it will probably be easier that way.

I do take a SFS. I take two Fibercon before every meal and sometimes just because. I take a super acidophilus tablet I found at Walgreen's. I drink peppermint tea when I get to feeling too bad, or sometimes I have Celestial Seasoning's Tummy Mint tea.

I am starting to wonder if I might possibly have a wheat allergy. I am allergic to wheat smut, which is the dusty stuff stirred up when you harvest and store wheat, so perhaps I am allergic to eating wheat as well. I stay away from dairy, red meat, fried food, the bad kind of margarine (sorry, can't remember which kind of hydrogenated it is, but I use only the "right" kind!), and anything else that might cause me problems. For a while, I was literally consuming only bananas, white rice and the occasional plain baked chicken breast.

I try not to get down and depressed about it, but it's hard when I go out to eat with my husband and he can have a nice steak and a baked potato with butter and sour cream, and I have to get some sort of baked/grilled chicken or fish and eat my potato plain. But then I remember that the whole point is to have a nice date with him, not the food, so I try to keep it in perspective. That steak sure looks good, though...

I'll keep plugging away. (I'd LOVE to have a plug on some days!!!) Yes, there are times when I'm stuck in the bathroom crying because every time I try to get up a new wave hits. Yes, there have been times when I've sprinted to the bathroom in a store because I'm afraid I won't get there in time. Yes, I've been bleeding because I've rubbed myself raw simply because of too much D. Yes, I've taken the "backup" Imodium because I know I'm going somewhere that I can't be sure of reaching a potty in time, like one of my kids' sporting events. Yes, I get sick of it. And sometimes I vent and rant and rave and pout and cry. And then I take my SFS and get on with it.

Naturapanic...dude, I don't know what to tell you. In a way I want to smack you upside the head and tell you to grow up. But I also remember what it was like to be younger (I'm almost 41). When I was 26, I didn't look at things like I do now, even though at that time I had two kids and had been married for seven years. I was younger and I thought I knew everything and I got mad a lot quicker and about things that I really couldn't do anything about. I understand the desire to go out and have fun, and the anger when you can't do the things your friends do. It's hard, it really is.

But seriously...if your friends make fun of you because of a medical condition that you can't help having (the bloated gut being a symptom), are they really your friends? If they are the kind of people who would not understand that you have specific dietary needs, are they really the kind of people you want in your life? Why do you have to get loaded to have a good time? Just because everybody else is getting drunk? I mean, if you had diabetes, you'd have special dietary needs as well, and special meds to take, and special courses of actions to follow. Would they make fun of you then? Just what is "fun"? Because your friends or society tells you it is "fun" to go out and get drunk, that automatically makes it "fun"?

Geriatric meds...SFS have been marketed to the "older generation", but that's just slick marketing on the part of the pharmacetucal companies. Is Gatorade just for athletes? No! It's for anyone who has had problems being too hot or losing body fluids through sweating. My husband works in a foundry and he drinks Gatorade all the time. Do people assume he's an athlete? Oh no. So you gotta take SFS. Nobody is going to assume you're old. Just put them in a different bottle and take them before you go in the restaurant. Nobody has to even know. Tell yourself they're vitamins if that helps.

If I do have a wheat allergy, then I'm not going to be able to follow Heather's guideline about eating bread, at least bread made with wheat. That's not her fault. It isn't mine either. It's just how it is. No, I'm not "cured" either. Far from it. I've been following this plan for over a year now and I sometimes feel I'm still on square one. But many of the things work for me, while some of the things I have to manipulate a bit to make work, and some don't work at all. I'm still finding out what works and what don't.

You can either buck against it or deal with it, but either way you have IBS. And so do I. I have a reason to want to try and be healthy...I love my kids and my husband and I want to be healthy so I can be the best mom and wife I can be. What is your reason? You're going to have to have one better than "I want to look good" or "I don't want to take old people meds" or you're just going to be beating your head on the wall. What is it, deep down?

I'm not trying to be nasty to you, just trying to get to the root of the problem. This is a place where we can all help each other...at least, I hope it is.



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Re: depressed and need some uplifting. new
      #358338 - 05/03/10 10:33 PM
fairleas

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Quote:

At least you can have peace of mind about what you don't have.




Oh yes. I self-diagnosed myself with everything under the sun. I was happy when everything showed that I had a healthy colon, but irritated that I'm still dealing with almost constant D and bloating. I guess it was a trade-off.

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Re: Well said!.Hope you are feeling better too.nt new
      #358345 - 05/04/10 05:42 AM
dragonfly

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Great post, thank you! 3 quick things that might help you... new
      #358354 - 05/04/10 10:10 AM
HeatherAdministrator

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Fibercon is a very low dose of soluble fiber - you're only getting half a gram per tablet. You might try gradually increasing that to 10 or even 20 or even 30 grams per day, which would be 20 or 40 or 60 capsules. Not practical, obviously, but if you switch to a powder for the fiber you take at home, and just use the caps when you're out, that will let you get a much, much higher dose. Just increase gradually!

Try taking the probiotic every day. It needs that to work, and probiotics really can work.

The tea you're using is not medicinal strength - brew a cup of that brand with at least 3 teabags per 8 oz. water, or switch to a brand that is high volatile oil so you can use less tea and get better results. There can be a world of difference with this.

Since you're already doing these things, making some minor tweaks to them might give you a lot more bang for your buck.

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Re: Great post, thank you! 3 quick things that might help you... new
      #358382 - 05/05/10 01:27 AM
fairleas

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Quote:

Fibercon is a very low dose of soluble fiber - you're only getting half a gram per tablet. You might try gradually increasing that to 10 or even 20 or even 30 grams per day, which would be 20 or 40 or 60 capsules. Not practical, obviously, but if you switch to a powder for the fiber you take at home, and just use the caps when you're out, that will let you get a much, much higher dose. Just increase gradually!




Hey, thanks for the info!

Let me ask you...what sort of powder do you recommend? I know you're undoubtedly going to recommend your Acacia powder. What about stuff that I can buy OTC that will give me the "proper" grams of SF per day? I tried Metamucil capsules, but I'm not sure they helped me a lot. Would Metamucil fiber be any better? Or maybe Citracel? Should I take these before each meal, or 3-4 times a day, whichever comes first?

Where I live, out in the boonies, it's hard to find the sort of tea that is strong enough for IBS symptoms. To get to any sort of "special" products, I have to drive at least a half-hour or more to get to a larger store. Urgh. I'll try the tripling-up on the tea bags. How much peppermint tea is recommended per bag for good results?

I want to order some stuff off the interwebs, but finances are gonna have to kick in first.

I just wanted to say thank you for all this wonderful information. I recently checked out your book again from the library and I'm going through it again. There's lots of things to remember and I'm finding stuff that I missed/misread the first/second time through. It's a bit confusing...perhaps if there were more charts, for those of us who are visually-oriented?

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Re: Great post, thank you! 3 quick things that might help you... new
      #358397 - 05/05/10 10:12 AM
HeatherAdministrator

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Hi - there's a whole page on all the different types of soluble fiber supplements here Best way to take them is to divide your dose, take at least twice a day or before every meal if you can.

You'll see that it's very difficult to get any kind of decent amount of fiber with capsules. It will probably have to be a powder. And I'd avoid Metamucil and psyllium, inulin and FOS, if you can - try something that is 100% soluble, with nothing else added to it. That will be more concentrated, and thus cheaper on a gram per gram basis, and you won't risk having problems from additives in there you don't need (like citric acid, artificial flavor, color, etc.)

If you can get to any kind of shop with bulk herbs and spices, they'll have bulk peppermint leaf. It's going to be much, much stronger than the teabags you're using and also much, much cheaper. Loose tea is always less expensive than teabags. If you're stuck with the regular kind of teabags, you might have to use up to 5 per cup. I know that sounds crazy, but even then it really won't be as strong as the loose tea or as strong as medicinal strength tea bags. The difference is the grade of peppermint - you want cut and sift or whole leaf, you do not want teabag grade. But, something is better than nothing, so use what you can get. If you are happy brewing loose tea, buying that online, even with shipping costs, is going to be less expensive than buying regular grocery store teabags locally.

For some fast and easy visuals for the EFI diet info, you can download the cheat sheet here

XXOO
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Re: Great post, thank you! 3 quick things that might help you... new
      #358435 - 05/05/10 08:02 PM
Naturapanic

Reged: 02/16/06
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Few things Heather

1) I have tried store bought cammelie tea...and that has NOT helped my IBS.
-What is the difference, and why would your fennel tea work better?
-Which tea should I get, fennel or peppermint?

2) I am sure you have seen my diet...do you really think
a. Tea
b. Peppermint caps

would REALLY help me?


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