Question for Heather - Low acid coffee
#67225 - 05/04/04 06:28 AM
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I've been having problems with heartburn lately, so I did a search on WebMD and one of the ads that came up with the topic was low acid coffee. I know there have been posts about this in the past, however I did not see anything about this kind of coffee called Hevla. Champlain Coffee
Since it says it specially brewed to remove the irritants, would this be safe for IBS? Coffee is the one thing I just cannot seem to quit once and for all.
Thanks for your time!
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i wonder if it would be ok? how nice it would be to have a cuppa joe again!
if you decide to order a bag from the site to check it out, keep in mind that you should get the Decaff, since caffeine is a no-no for IBS. also remember that decaf coffees still have some caffeine, believe it or not, so if you're really sensitive to it you may want to stay away or save it for consumption only on your good stable days!
let us know if you try it! the diet really doesn't give great results if you're still ingesting a major irritant like coffee, so most of us have given it up reluctantly, (and many of us miss it terribly!) 
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Rocamojo
#67242 - 05/04/04 07:31 AM
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Linz
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Have any of you tried Rocamojo as an alternative to coffee? I tried to order some a while back, but their website had trouble so that didn't happen. I was just wondering if it would be worth chasing this up or not? I miss coffee.
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I have not tried Rocamojo. I have actually seen it at a grocery store near me but I've been afraid to spend the money on it. I've seen mixed reviews of it here on the boards. I am curious about it and I will probably break down and just buy it...I just wish I could taste it first 
I follow the IBS diet to an extent. I have a hard time when I'm out or at other people's houses. I feel like I can't tell people I can't eat something they've made - I've tried to with people that I'm close to and I always feel like they're offended  It's not always easy to explain IBS - a lot of people still think it's all in your head 
The other thing is that I still drink coffee most mornings  I know I shouldn't, but I just have not found an acceptable alternative yet. Even though I make mostly decaf, I still feel like it perks me up in the morning. I know I keep going on and on about coffee...I'll try to quit whining about it I know a lot of people miss it from what I've read on the boards. I'm actually surprised that I've ended up feeling so strongly about it!!
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WOW!
#67259 - 05/04/04 08:20 AM
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Bevvy
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Gee, I'd like to know more myself. (I'm one of those Jen's talking about.) Is it possibe we might be able to have coffee after all (even if it isn't Starbuck's)?
WOW!
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Re: Rocamojo
#67262 - 05/04/04 08:26 AM
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Bevvy
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Linz, several people have tried it but didn't like it. Did you do a search? Because I seem to recall there was one person who did like it -- but I don't think that person is with us anymore..... ? I mean, she's just not on the Boards anymore. (Oops.)
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i'm lucky
#67266 - 05/04/04 08:39 AM
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because i have had such great responses from people when i tell them i have stomach problems and can't eat what's available. i think it's 'cause i always start with flattery and then definitively and confidently say "but i can't eat xyz because i will definitely get sick. it's not your cooking/the chef's cooking, it's the milk/bread/fried-ness.
really, so many people these days are on this or that diet, i'm surprised anyone bats an eye at all! i have a friend on weight watchers, a diabetic friend, and several friends doing low-carb, high-protein. oh, and there are a few friends who are vegetarians to some degree or another. no one really ever even asks me why i turn down cake or whatever. they just assume i'm dieting! and they're right, it's just not the kind of diet they think.
when i'm invited to someone else's house, i always offere to bring something. i say something like "what can i bring to help you out?" and then find something IBS friendly that goes with that. heck, i even made deviled eggs for an Easter get together, even though i can't eat them, but also took a potato salad that i CAN eat. that way i always know there's SOMETHING i can eat!  my favorite thing to take is the pumpkin cheesecake that's on the recipe boards. man, oh man, is that good! and everyone loves it. no one guesses that it's got tofu in it! YUM! the way i figure it, if i can't eat any of the meal, i ought to at least get some dessert!
i found that it was very important for me to take responsibility for myself. i'm not a b*tch, but if i tell someone politely that i can't partake in something they've made because it will negatively effect my health and they have a problem with that, then they'll just have to have a problem. i REFUSE -i FLAT OUT REFUSE! - to be sick just to save someone's feelings from being hurt. that's why i make sure i'm complimenting them while i turn it down. it's always the truth! "wow, that smells great, but unfortunately jalapeno poppers are stuffed with cheese and i can't have them. i sure wish i could!" or "you know how i love your triple chocolate cake, but ever since i started this diet for my tummy troubles i've been feeling really good and unfortunately cake is a no-no for me now. i really wish it weren't!" the other thing i occasionally do is say "you know i love your homemade ice cream, but that's really going to kill my stomach. you know i love it, though! tell ya what, i'm going to have ONE bite and just savor it!" (usually one bite isn't going to kill me, especially if i've had soluble fiber first!)
and i've never had anyone tell me it's all in my head, thank goodness, or i'd actually have to describe all the things i've gone through. really, they don't want to hear it! i'd make it down and dirty, too, man! i've been waiting for that, but everyone's being so darn NICE. 
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I was addicted to coffee something terrible. I began drinking the stuff back in 1959, so I had a 40-year addiction BIG time. I was having a bad time with my IBS, despite the fact that I was following the diet religiously -- except I refused to give up the coffee. When Heather discovered my cheating, she got me off the coffee with one post:
Oh Wow, This is a Huge Problem!
She was right. Her post was just last Dec. 10; I gave up my beloved javva that day and haven't had any since. The very next day, for the first time in years I had no cramps.
I won't say it's been easy. I still miss my java. Every time I pass by the coffee aisle at Safeway, I have problems. I don't go anywhere near espresso stands because the aroma drives me crazy. When I'm at the nail salon and they brew a pot, I have to step outside. It's hard. A 40-year addiction isn't easy to break.
But you just have to believe me: nothing -- NOTHING -- tastes as good as the excruciating pain from cramping with IBS -- NOTHING! As much as I love the stuff, I love living a semi-normal life better.
Bev
P.S.: I can't respond to your post about people thinking it's "all in your head" without getting angry. While I wouldn't wish this on anyone, when they take that attitude, I want them to have to suffer just one cramp like we do and then see if it's all in THEIR head!
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It's another coffee substitute, a mix of roasted herbs, roots, and nuts, that you brew like coffee. It sounds like it would be great for IBS, and I'm wondering if people would prefer it to the Rocamojo?
- Heather
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I guess you'd have to try it to find out. Personally, I'd be too afraid to, as I have zero tolerance for coffee, period. Just the taste would probably set me off.
I would wonder if their steam process is removing everything from the beans that could bother IBS. I just don't know how you could know that for sure unless you actually drank a cup.
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Quote:
and i've never had anyone tell me it's all in my head, thank goodness, or i'd actually have to describe all the things i've gone through. really, they don't want to hear it! i'd make it down and dirty, too, man! i've been waiting for that, but everyone's being so darn NICE.
You are lucky...maybe I should invite you to my next family function!
A lot of it is me though, I think. I'm a real people-pleaser and if I think there is even a remote chance that I'm going to hurt someone's feelings, I absolutely cringe I've slowly tried being more assertive, but it's really hard sometimes when you're the only one not eating certain things. Most of my friends and family are the "meat and potatoes" type. If I'm the only one at the table not eating any roast beef or ham (or whatever), it definitely gets noticed! But you are so right - it is not worth getting sick over (I just have to keep reminding myself of that!).
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I've looked for that, but I haven't found it anywhere...but for kicks, I just tried a search for it on yahoo and I found their website Teecino
Ooops!
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Thanks for the website. I just checked it out and e-mailed them, asking if they knew whether their product had any bad side effects for us IBS sufferers. It'll be interesting to see what they say in response. I'll keep you posted.
Bev
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I just ordered some teeccino today  They sell a "sampler" pack so I figured that was the safest way to go. I'll let you know how it tastes...
By the way, I also ordered some of Heather's Fennel Tea today too 
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I Did Too!
#68365 - 05/06/04 04:47 PM
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Bevvy
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Hi Miss Pepper!
Isn't that funny? We ordered at the same time!
I sent them an e-mail, but they never answered. I have a feeling they didn't want to deal with the IBS issue. (Can't say that I blame them.)
I figured, what the heck, I'd just order the 7-flavor sampler pack and give them a try. $10 ain't a lot -- if I find something I actually like and doesn't bother my tummy.
Yeah, lets keep in touch. If this stuff isn't a trigger, and satisfies the coffee craving, I think a lot of folks will be interested in it....
Bev
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Re: Rocamojo
#68485 - 05/07/04 07:50 AM
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Kree
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I'm actually another person who likes Rocamojo! As long as I brew it half as strong as they recommend I find it really tastes a lot like coffee and fulfills my cravings. On the downside, I've found that if I drink too much of it without soluble fiber it bothers me sometimes. Not as much as coffee, but somewhat. I wonder of it's just the brewing process... or maybe it's the acidity! Maybe this low acid stuff is the answer. I'd love to hear how it works out of you decide to give it a try!
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I'm really excited about this Teeccino coffee substitute, so I e-mailed the company, but before they had a chance to respond, I went ahead and ordered a small 7-flavor sampler pack.
I just got their response to my e-mail, and I think you all might find it interesting:
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Indeed we have had a number of IBS and Crohn's disease sufferers tell us they find great relief drinking Teeccino! As you suspected, Teeccino doesn't irritate the colon. In fact, Teeccino contains inulin, a prebiotic soluble fiber from chicory root that helps support the growth of beneficial microflora including the bifidus bacteria of the colon. I think you will find that Teeccino tastes great because it is a blend of ingredients rather
than just one ingredient like soy beans. Also, my background of 30 years in designing herbal teas for companies like The Republic of Tea and Yogi Tea has given me plenty of experience in designing beverages that people love!
It was signed by the President of the company.
Miss Pepper ordered a sampler pack also; we should get them by next Friday. Both of us will let you know, after we've tried the stuff, whether or not we survived. Stay tuned.
Meanwhile, check it out: web page
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BLECCCH!
#69296 - 05/11/04 08:57 AM
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Bevvy
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YUK! Gross. Disgusting!
If you're a REAL coffee lover, don't waste your money!
Ew.
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Thanks for letting us know Bev!!!!!!!! (Sorry you had to be the guinea pig!  ).
I suppose coffee will be another item to put in the wish I could but can't list like dairy cheese
I ended up using my "Bodum" coffee maker - it's one of those "french press" kind that is more like a steeper and strainer thing - to make peppermint tea. That seemed to help turn a lonely little coffee pot in the cupboard into a tummy helper!
I still wish I could have coffee though!
Ana
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Re: Rocamojo
#69330 - 05/11/04 09:51 AM
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I realize this sounds hard to do, but you have to just give it up. Put the coffee pot out of site, give your coffee supply to your neighbor, and just quit!
I gave up coffee back in February, when I started eating better for my ulcerative colitis. I fully expected headaches and withdrawals from giving it up, but I had nothing. I think I was so pre-occupied with being sick and feeling so crappy (ha, ha) anyway.
What's REALLY weird is that I don't crave the coffee as I thought I would. I do miss holding the warm mug in the morning. Guess it's kind of like a security blanket thing.
I have not tried the Rocamojo either. It's kind of expensive and I feel like I spend so much on all the necessary healthy food that I can't budget it in! If anyone breaks down and tries the stuff, be sure to post what you think of it!
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Now Bev, what did you really think? Don't hold back now, girlfriend. Be honest!!!b
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I received my teeccino the other day and I tried it for the first time yesterday morning. So far, I like it  Since I ordered the sampler pack and there were a few different flavors, I decided to be safe and try the original flavor first. Now, I have still been drinking coffee most mornings, so what I did was make 4 cups using 2 scoops of teeccino original flavor, 1 scoop regular coffee, and 1 scoop decaf coffee. I'm going to slowly work down to no coffee and all teeccino.
I'm sorry to hear Bev hated it Maybe I don't mind it so far because I still have some "real" coffee in my "blend". Plus, I don't know what the flavors taste like yet since I haven't tried them. I will have to try a different flavor tomorrow though since I used up the original one this morning! Also, I like cream and sugar in my coffee, so I use Silk Soymilk creamer (regular or vanilla) and sugar in mine. I don't know what it would've tasted like black (But I don't like regular coffee that way either).
Sorry it took me a few days to get back on here and let you guys know what I thought of the teeccino. I have been sick for the past week 
Take care!
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Teeccino!!! I have tried all the flavors except Java (which sounds boring) and Almond Amaretto (which sounds exciting). They are all very good. You should know right now that I hate Starbucks coffee and it's evil empire, and I like my coffee with lots of creamy and sweet additions. So, I drink the Teeccino 1:1 with chocolate soy milk and boy, is it yummy! I enjoy it very much. The Chocolate Peppermint is extra soothing. Teeccino is a little spendy...$6.47 for 8 1/2 oz at my local health food market. But the extra inulin for my tummy is worth it, I think. There's no replacement for coffee, but I've learned to do without so much already, coffee was easy!!
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it's not just the acid in coffee, or the caffeine, it's some irritants that are just inherent in the beans. I don't know how anyone would remove all of that. Maybe they can - you could give it a try. One cup on an empty stomach would be a good test, but if it causes problems I'm not sure it's worth taking the chance.
Search the boards for posts on Teeccino and Soy Coffee and Rocamojo - these are all "herbal coffees" that are totally safe for IBS, and some hard-core coffee drinkers have really liked them. You might have to try all varieties, as they do differ, and folks have varying preferences. But I think the odds are good that one of them would do the trick - and not make you sick.
- H
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I really like the Teeccino Hazelnut flavor, and I make it with half water, half vanilla soy milk (I sweeten it too - for me this drink is a great dessert!) But I never thought of using chocolate soy milk - my God, that would be like Nutella in a glass!
Okay, I'm off to get some chocolate Silk...
- H
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Re: BLECCCH!
#91243 - 07/18/04 12:31 AM
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Darn I'm dissapointed. I was hoping it would be
good. Thanks for being the guinie pig!
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