Tried soy milk for the first time - ?
#41172 - 01/27/04 08:39 AM
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Loriann
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Yesterday at lunch I drank 1/2 cup of Vitasoy vanilla - it was my first time with more than just a taste of soy. A couple hours later it was as though I had taken a laxative (not D, just normal), but I had to go about 3 or 4 times. It wasn't an attack, but I really don't need a laxative effect! Now I'm a little leary of soy, but I don't like the taste of rice milk. I wanted to start drinking soy a little because I wanted another source of protein since I've had to cut my red meat out. Beans don't go over too well - so what's left besides poultry? Will I get used to soy and it won't do that - or is that a usual reaction?
Lori
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I've had lots of trouble with soy milk because of the extra ingredients (preservatives, flavour enhancers). If you try different brands with different ingredients youu might have better luck!
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Fish and seafood -- tuna salad with lowfat mayonnaise and cooked shrimp with cocktail sauce! Salmon with mashed potato crust (from Jane Brody's Good Seafoood cookbook). Sushi! Crab cakes! Lobster!!
Unless you're allergic or don't like it. 
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#41224 - 01/27/04 10:32 AM
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Kree
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Have you ever tried Beano? It's a digestive enzyme that can help you digest beans. Since soy is a bean, it can be very helpful to take before you drink that glass of soy milk. Also, I don't know about the reaction you had, but I do know that gas is a normal side effect of any soy product if you're not used to digesting beans. So the good news is it should go away. As for it acting as a laxative, I'm not sure! Maybe someone else has a better answer to that one.
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Bean-zyme
As you can see, it is a lot cheaper...
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I generally have gas all day, not just after eating certain foods, would it work if I took a couple in the morning as prevention for the day?
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Wow, that is a much better price. Have you used this product? Think I might try it.
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I'm not sure about that, Rosie. I think Beano and the other enzymes only work when you eat, I don't think they would work on general gassiness. Something like Gas-X would probably be better for that.
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I had the same reaction to soy milk..and havent tried it again....
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Egg whites are also another good source of protein. My boyfriend is a competitive bodybuilder and he created this pancake recipe:
4-6 egg whites
1/2c. 1 minute plain oatmeal
1-2 tablespoons of water
dash of cinnamon
Mix all ingredients together. Spray pan with Pam spray and scoop about 1.4 c. of mix into flat pan and make pancakes.
I top my pancakes off with honey.
Great source of protein and good source of soluble fiber. I eat these for breakfast, lunch or dinner. 
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May want to try non-fat, plain soy milk or vanilla flavor. I use WestSoy brand and have had no problems.
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Good question. I can't answer that for you. All I can say is give it a try. Maybe you could try a few of the tabs with whatever you have for breakfast and see. For me, I have to take it with almost every meal (with the first or second bite), but then I ALSO take a digestive enzyme with the meal as well. I also take probiotics and a chlorophyll tab in the morning and at night. I do yoga when I can fit it in. All of those can help with a continuous gas problem. Gas X didn't work for me, but it may for you. You just never know about these things until you give them a try. Each of us is different. BTW, Activated charcoal tabs can work really well for gas, but don't take them more than a couple of days. Adversely they absorb needed vitamins and minerals.
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is just called "GAS" by Hylands, available at the health food stores. It is a homeopathic product and is a little pill you use sublingual (under the tongue). I'm told it helps for gas, AFTER the fact, or in this case after you've eaten and the gas has set it's course.  If that's the case it could be wonderful for many of us. I intend to get some, skip the Beano a time or two and try it. Has anyone else heard of it?
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Thanks for all the different ideas - it didn't give me gas, just the laxative effect. I'll probably try it one more time in a few days and see if it does it again - if so it's on to different sources of protein!
lori
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Hi!
I've tried many different brands of soy milk and the one that I think tastes best is Natura, especially the vanilla flavor. At one point, I thought soy milk was hard on my intestines but I realized it was probably because I was drinking the chocolate-flavoured one. Natura also makes low fat soymilk and it's almost as good as the regular one.
I agree with you on rice milk... Not so good!!! 
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There's such a thing as light PB?? Where would I find this wonderful product? 
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When I was first diagnosed a long time ago, the nutritionist told me that peanuts and peanut butter were big no-no's. Is this not true? I could really eat peanut butter?!
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I'm with you, Loriann, I've been eating soynut butter. It's great, but I'd sure like some PB again! The last time I tried the full fat kind it brought on an attack.
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They have it in the grocery store -I think it is Jiff. I've been thinking about getting some myself but wanted to know what Heather thought.
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I've had attacks from it too! Maybe you should try the low fat kind FIRST and then let me know if it's safe!!!!!!?
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Gee, thanks a lot!! Lol. Actually, I miss PB so much I might just be willing to try it. I said MIGHT.
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Yeah, it's a BIG might for me! Let me know if you do!
Lori
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Yes they have it in grocery stores, but think about HOW they made it light................just less of the natural peanut oil.
I got tired of not always finding it so I just made my own by buying a "natural" kind, you know, where the oil is floating on the top and you stir it in before refrigerating? Well, just pour off the excess oil and there is your instant "lite" version, and there still is enough oil in the rest of the product to keep it from seeming to dry.
Yes, PB is safe but only in VERY tiny amounts. I limit myself to one teaspoon, period. A normal serving is 2 tablespoons, and of the natural (assuming you leave in the oil) the fat is 16 grams....200 cal., 150 of which is fat.........just by looking at those figures it's enuf to cause an attack but if you figure it based on one teaspoon the figures aren't so staggering. Divide the figure (16) by 6 (6 teaspoons equal 2 tablespoons) and you then have 2.6 grams of fat per your tiny 1 teaspoon serving. I realize one teensy teaspoon full is not much but if you have the craving, it's enough to satisfy the need. And, if you've made yours the lite version the fat is likely reduced 1/4 or more.
Does this make sense?
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I've been eating the lite stuff for a long time -- that is, until the IBS struck. We used to eat "Reduced-Fat Skippy", but then did our infamous taste test, comparing it to the "Reduced-Fat Jif." Since I have diverticulosis, and can't have nuts, the taste test involved only the creamy versions.
Jif won out HANDS DOWN! That was based strictly on taste. As far as fat goes, well, forget it. A serving size of 2T is 190 and 12g. of fat -- and since I always have my calculator in tow -- that means it's 57% fat! Groan.
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Well there goes that fantasy, lol. 1 tsp?? That's hardly enough to even set off your taste buds! But you're right, Kandee, I guess if I was really craving it that would be something. I guess I'll stick with my soynut butter. That's a little bit high in the fat category too, but when I use a little bit (about 1 Tbsp) in half a sandwich with jelly it's never bothered me. I guess I should feel lucky I can tolerate any nut butter at all!
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I am still suffering an attack from peanut butter I had two days ago. I was stable until I tried a low fat cracker with a small amount of peanut butter, which led me to having 5 more crackers with a small amount of peanut butter. It is funny how I forgot how it "use to be" until I tried peanut butter again. So sorry I did. Now I have been thinking of applying for a full time job and am scared that I will battle with IBS just from the stress of job and 3 kids. I have been doing pretty well with a part time job. Any advice?
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Drinking soy milk bothered me a little bit too. I don't drink it now, but I do bake and make puddings with it. I think that it helps to make rice pudding with soy milk, for the rice fiber seems to help. I seem to be ok with that and tapioca pudding too. Also, I eat alot of fish for protein. Hope this helps.
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I know, I know, 1 teaspoon hardly sounds worth it, doesn't it, but give me the little PB on a rice cake with some brown sugar on top of it and I'm a happy camper!!!
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I eat peanut butter all the time and I'm fine with it. I think everyone's different, so don't just assume it will bother you. Try a little at a time. I only have it in peanutbutter and jelly sandwiches(on white bread of course), so I'm using like 2 tablespoons. I only use the old fashioned kind now, it doesn't have the harmful things like Jif does.
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I'm with you, Kandee, that's one of my favorite snacks! As a funny aside, I once tried to feed a bit of rice cake to my mother's dog. She'd eat ANYTHING, but refused to eat the rice cake. It did NOT qualify as food in her opinion!! It was so funny, my mom and I laughed about it for months.
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Funny
#41525 - 01/28/04 01:15 PM
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Kandee
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LauraSue (the nut),
So poochie didn't like styro-cakes either? That's hilarious. I have friends, and relatives that would eat ANYTHING other than rice cakes. They think it is a terrorist plot.
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Re: Funny
#41529 - 01/28/04 01:20 PM
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LauraSue
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LOL!!! My husband claims they're made out of styrofoam!!
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Personally, I just use soy milk in recipes. I don't really like the taste of it and it makes me seriously bloated. I for the most part just drink water.
The soy seems to go over well, in small quantities, when I put it in a recipe.
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YES!!!!! There is such thing as light peanut butter and yes, it is safe for most in small quantities. For example, I have a piece of toast for breakfast with a small amount of PB. NO problem! For those of you missing it, I posted a thai pasta recipe with a wicked but safe peanut sauce ..... YES! Have your PB and enjoy it!
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Thanks to everyone for all the ideas! I will definately use soy in cooking, but not drink much if any. My husband and I are going to put more fish in our diets, so that will help and as far as peanut butter - well, I must get braver before I venture there!!!
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Hi - Don't be afraid to gradually add soy milk to your diet, including drinking it.
Beans (including soy) contain raffinose, a natural sugar. If you're used to eating them, your body produces plenty of the digestive enzymes needed for raffinose, and you won't get any gas or bloating at all. But, if you never ever eat beans or soy, you're going to have to go very carefully if want to start. Your body will gradually start digesting the raffinose, and eventually you shouldn't have problems. Go slow, and try using Beano with every meal - that will really help.
It's worth increasing your tolerance to soy as it will allow you a lot of flexibility in cooking, and is also a good source of protein.
- Heather
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How much sugar is there.?an I love peanut butter.I know look on the jar.
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yes PB on rice cakes is very good.that is my little treat.
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Oh Gerry, It's so good to hear from you again..........even if it is only about PB!
BTW, Yes, we DO want a picture for the board..........now go get all gussied up and have someone take a picture and send it in the mail to Heather...she'll know what to do. You just have to! We senior members have to stick together you know!!! Besides, when Arnie has a day off and comes to pick me up we're headed up the I-15 your way to come get you to go with us to the remote island. We have to know who we are looking for, so get that picture in ok?
How'd I get off on that tangent?
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