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what do you think about this?.........
      #40329 - 01/24/04 04:39 AM
nurturingkneads

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http://atkins.com/Archive/2002/2/12-234348.html
I understand the frutose thing in the article BUT, why should we have to cut all soluble fiber carbs

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Re: what do you think about this?......... new
      #40350 - 01/24/04 08:00 AM
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I don't know. It would be interisting to hear Heather's spin on this.

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Re: what do you think about this?......... new
      #40362 - 01/24/04 09:06 AM
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It's just another Atkins ploy to eat his way and buy his books and products.

However, as far as the high fructose corn syrup, it seems to be lethal stuff for me, so I avoid it whenever possible. I limit my amount of fruits as well, and never, ever eat citrus. Ug...

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okHeather what do you think new
      #40430 - 01/24/04 02:59 PM
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Good article, whacko conclusion new
      #40440 - 01/24/04 03:21 PM
HeatherAdministrator

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This article is in the IBS Research Library. Fructose and lactose GI problems are common, even in folks who don't have IBS. Sorbitol is an artificial sweetener used in diabetic candies and cookies - it's long been notorious for causing cramps and diarrhea (products that use it will actually carry warnings). This study can in no way be construed to apply to sugars other than lactose and fructose, and to apply it futher to carbohydrates in general is crazy.

Your muscles and your brain run on one form of food energy - glucose. Glucose is a sugar, and it's found in carbs. No glucose, and you will die. There are tons of other sugars in complex carbohydrates - sucrose, raffinose, anything that ends in "ose" is a sugar. You need complex carbohydrates as the foundation of your diet for good health, whether you have IBS or not.

Should you avoid or at least be very careful with lactose and fructose? Of course - lactose is just one of the problems in dairy, so just avoid dairy altogether. Fructose is found in high quantities in high fructose corn syrup and fruit juices. Fructose intolerance is not the same thing as IBS, but they can overlap. So watch your fructose intake. Does this mean don't eat any fresh fruit? No - it doesn't. Fresh fruit is known to reduce stroke and cancer risks, and fresh fruit is loaded with nutrition.

I'm really at my limit with addressing Atkins questions and issues. The fact of the matter - and it's a fact, the research studies worldwide, over decades, are overwhelming - is that a plant-based, complex carbohydrate, low animal fat diet is by far the healthiest and the least likely to lead to obesity. Atkins is the diametric opposite of this diet. It's bad for IBS, it's bad for your overall health, it's bad for weight control, and it's even bad for the environment.

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Gee Heather, Tell Us How You REALLY Feel -- nt new
      #40450 - 01/24/04 03:35 PM
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Re: Good article, whacko conclusion new
      #40503 - 01/24/04 06:43 PM
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Thanks I feel the same way. I just posted it cause I just dont understand people sometimes, and I just wanted everyones input

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Heather, Didja See King5 News Tonite? new
      #41070 - 01/26/04 05:53 PM
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They had a very interesting report, which I KNOW you will find of interest:

Can you have your carbs and calories and lose weight too?
01:38 PM PST on Monday, January 26, 2004

Associated Press

CHICAGO - In the midst of the low-carb craze, a new study suggests that by eating lots of carbohydrates and little fat, it is possible to lose weight without actually cutting calories -- and without exercising, either.

The study was small, consisting of just 34 overweight adults who either ate the recommended diet for three months; ate the recommended diet and exercised regularly; or ate pretty much what they usually eat.

All meals were prepared for participants, who were instructed to eat as much as they wanted. They also were told to return any uneaten food, which the researchers said enabled them to calculate calorie intake.

Many doctors dispute whether people can lose weight without reducing their food intake, and at least one questioned the study's accuracy.

But the diet is more compatible with conventional notions of healthful eating than the fatty, low-carbohydrate Atkins and South Beach diets.

Participants on the recommended diet lost about 7 pounds without cutting calories and without exercise, and almost 11 pounds with 45 minutes of stationary bike-riding four times weekly. The control group lost no weight.

The findings appear in Monday's Archives of Internal Medicine.

Gary Foster, clinical director of the University of Pennsylvania's Weight and Eating Disorders Program, said he suspects participants who lost weight ate less than what was reported. He said that while he recommends a low-fat, high carb diet to patients, without calorie reduction it would be "a public health disaster."

"The whole idea that you could lose weight without reducing energy intake flies in the face of 100 years of data," Foster said.

Lead author William Evans of the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences stood by his findings.

"Calories in minus calories out does not always determine the amount of weight loss," Evans said. "This is because we metabolize fats and carbohydrates very differently."

American Dietetic Association spokeswoman Cindy Moore agreed and said with low-carb diets hogging the spotlight, "it may be a reminder that we can lose weight in a variety of different ways."

Foods on the successful diets included high-fiber cereal, vegetarian chili, whole-wheat spaghetti, many fruits and vegetables, and skim milk. Daily calories totaled about 2,400, similar to participants' usual consumption.

The control group also received prepared meals with similar calories, but the foods included sausage, scrambled eggs, macaroni and cheese, French fries, whole milk and fewer fruits and vegetables.

The successful diet was not tested against Atkins and other low-carb regimens, which contain more fat and fewer carbs than the control group diet.


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Yeah, I added the article to the research library... new
      #41121 - 01/26/04 10:03 PM
HeatherAdministrator

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I'm reluctant to include it in the newsletter, though, because it just flies in the face of common sense. They didn't reduce calories in their diet, or increase calories burned, but they still lost weight? The study is too small and not controlled enough for me to buy that.

But I like that it was a pro-high carb story!

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Re: Yeah, I added the article to the research library... new
      #41189 - 01/27/04 09:11 AM
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One recent article in the NY Times cited a study that showed the more variety of foods people could choose from at a given meal, the more of EACH they were likely to eat. So maybe this worked because of limiting the variety.

Just a thought, I'm NOT agreeing with the study at all.

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