Heather you would love my Anatomy teacher
#38070 - 01/16/04 02:16 PM
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BarbaraS
Reged: 02/12/03
Posts: 1939
Loc: Wisconsin
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She discussed carbohydrates and lactose today.
A student asked her what she thought of the Atkins diet and boy did she have an opinion about it. She explained how harmful the diet is to our body and basically if anyone sticks with the diet for long term can actually die. She compared it to Diabetes and explained the process of how Diabetics are unable to process carbohydrates and eventually they die from not processing carbohydrates. Besides the amount of fat put into their body is more harmful than carbs.
She also discussed the controversy about dairy and she believes we consume too much of it and our bodies don't need it. She said 2/3 of the world population is lactose intolerant. Than she said if any of you want to write your paper about the controversy of dairy that it will be a good paper to write. I have decided to write about how dairy affects our body.
I have to write a scientific paper and I like to know if you have any good websites discussing dairy. If so could you please send them. Thanks!!!
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Wow, you're right. I do love her!
For good dairy info, check the pcrm.org web site. All of their info is really well-researched and they cite their sources.
You can also check the book Diet for a New America (lousy title, great book) by John Robbins. A new edition of that just came out - the original is from 1987, and still in print. It's a terrific book and what's amazing is that for something crammed with technical info it reads almost like a novel you can't put down.
I'd also look for books by Dean Ornish and/or James McDougall. They'll have great info with good references.
Good luck on your paper!
- Heather
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Thankyou so much for the info. Heather!!!
After class I talked to her about IBS and your website. She is interested in learning more about you have to say about dairy, diet and carbs.
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Hi Barb!
VEEERRRRY interesting post! Thank you for sharing.
I'm amazed that Atkins has become so popular. Before Atkins, WAAAY before Atkins -- well, actually, the year was 1968 -- it was called "Martinis & Whipped Cream." My hubby and I went on it for several months. I lost 30 pounds. It was the same as Atkins, except all the booze you wanted to drink -- lots of cheese, whipped cream, red meat. No vegetables, no fruit, no bread of any kind.
After 3 months I couldn't poop. Neither could Don. I remember sitting on the pot once for a half hour, trying to force it. No luck. WEEKS went by (now bear in mind that I'm a "D" person), and finally -- FINALLY -- I was able to "perform". It was the most painful experience -- I delivered a 5-pound football and practically split my butt wide open.
That was the end of the martinis and whipped cream. 
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LOL Bev you "crack" me up!  I can almost hear you saying this.
These fad diets are so annoying!
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Thanks Barb. She's welcome to come by the site, the message boards, post questions, whatever she'd like for more info. 
- Heather
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Oh my .... Bev, I just love ya!!!! lol lol lol!
I know this agony only tooo well. I grew up thinking it was normal to go to the toilet only twice a month, to get a dull ache in my back every time I leaned over (despite being somewhat of an athlete!) I was 22 years old before a colleague at work (bless him!) asked how many times a day I went to the toilet. "A day????" I said, "try once a fortnight, maybe once a week if I'm really lucky". I can still see his face now - his eyes nearly popped right out of his head! It was then I realised I wasn't a saddo for feeling rotten all the time...I WAS SICK!!
The only good thing about collecting and storing all your poop like that inside for such a long time.....the tremendous relief when you finally go. It's like nothing else on this earth. LOL!
Shells
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Ouch! Aren't you glad Heather was here to teach us all how to eat sensibly?
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OMG yes! Can you imagine how all of us would do without her? I think of that quite often -- just think of how many of us are reaching out for help. I don't know what we'd all do without her.
Don't tell anyone. Lets keep her to ourselves.
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OMG Bev! You are too hilarious! LMAO
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Bev, you are a stitch! I know the feeling, but you describe it with such wit. 
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Shells not only can Bev make me laugh - you have me laughing right now.
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Bev you had me laughing so hard that I read your post to my husband. The only mistake was I read your post in front of my 7 year old. He ran upstairs yelling someone poop a football out of their butt!  Of course he is my ADHD child and his meds begin to wear off by supper time. It took awhile to get him to stop saying it.
Somehow I can picture you on that crazy diet. Although we all know you do a great job sticking to the right foods now. Except when you oink, oink the other day.
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Cute kid, Barb! I can really picture it.
Yeah, crazy diet, eh? It was fun 'cause I could have all the Jack I wanted -- and chocolate pudding with lots of whipped cream -- oooh baby! I remember coming home from work for lunch every day and popping an "instant burger" in the toaster oven with lots of cheese and smothering it with ketchup. I craved broccoli and apples something fiece.
Amazing that I'm still alive.
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And you didn't gain weight?
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Believe It Or Not
#38239 - 01/16/04 07:54 PM
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Bevvy
Reged: 11/04/03
Posts: 5918
Loc: Northwest Washington State
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Girlfriend, I lost 30 pounds! Hubby lost too (but he can't remember that far back how many).
But don't forget -- it was 100 years ago. I went on a diet once when I was young -- the fun days -- I wanted to lose a quick 5 pounds in one weekend, okay? Ate nothing but Hershey's candy bars. By Monday I was down 5 pounds.
Like I said, it's amazing I'm still alive.
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I have NEVER been able to lose weight eating candy. Sure wish I could!
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Joan, pretty lady, you have to understand I was only -- what? -- lets see, it was in 1968 -- I must have been -- oh, yeah -- 24 years old at the time! At that age, who couldn't lose weight?! I remember wanting to drop a few quick pounds to get into my wedding dress in 1966. I ate balogna and tomato -- and lost overnight. I was only 22! What did I know about nutrition -- and what did I care? -- I just wanted to be a hottie!
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I never had much luck at any age losing weight. I even took those stupid Dexatrim pills in my younger years and they did nothing.
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Yes, Yes, Yes
#38259 - 01/16/04 09:23 PM
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Bevvy
Reged: 11/04/03
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Loc: Northwest Washington State
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Phen Phen worked marvelously -- especially the Ionamine. I was WIRED! Never wanted to eat, so I never did.
I lost a ton of weight on the Ionamine, but there was a FANTASTIC side effect for me (but not for Don) -- uh, I'm sure you got the picture. Poor guy, he finally said no more!
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That's great. Sounds like a great class, and Amen....finally someone that knows a lot about nutrition....
Speaking of dairy, did you get your son off dairy or is he still fighting you? Maybe his little body just needs more calcium????
Hope you will enjoy your other classes as well...
Kandee
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He is getting better. He like drinking soy smoothies and eating soy yogruat. His doctor told him you eat cereal with orange juice and he tried that and it didn't go too well.
He is a good veggie eater and we eat alot of greens around here. He also drinks orange juice with calcium in it. If it is determined he is lactose intol. I'm sure his doctor will have good suggestions for us to make sure he gets his calcium.
Thanks for asking.
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Don't tell my husband. i'm sure he would but some for me!
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Barb,
I'm so glad you found the root of you son's problem and he is feeling better. Being lactose intolerant is hard I'm sure. Glad he likes the alternatives. Does he like chocolate? Maybe the chocolate rice/almond or soy beverages would go over better on his cereal?-----it beats OJ any day!!! The little 8 oz. aseptic pkgs of milk alternatives are handy take-alongs and the chocolate flavored ones are sure good.
When you do your research look at the XO factor in dairy. It's information that's been out a good ten years or more but little known to most people. A Google search will turn up all you need.
Educate me here, if you will, since I'm not up on being lactose intolerant. Does WHEY PROTEIN fall in the group of dairy no-no's for lactose intolerant folks? I know it's a trigger for many IBS sufferers, but that's about it.
Continued good luck with your studies……………..How's the new job going?
Kandee
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I checked the XO factor and very interesting reading. Can not wait to show my teacher on Monday and my son's doctor next month for his follow up appt.
I shared the info. with my husband and he was surprised too. He took Nurtition in College and he wasn't aware of the XO factor.
I'm not lactose intolerant myself, but maybe I am. I deal with more C and I believe it is the whey and casein that are the problem. My son has the same bowel habits as me, so I'm not convinced he is latcose intol. - more likely it is the whey or casein.
I will research the topic. I'll start a new thread too - maybe Heather or Shawn Eric can answer your question.
I start my job on Monday, so I don't expect to be on too much next week. I'll be more of a lurker at night.
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You're welcome
#38472 - 01/17/04 07:48 PM
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Kandee
Reged: 05/22/03
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Loc: USA, Southern California
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Hi Barb,
Glad you found the XO factor of interest. It may be controversial to some, I don't know, but it sure makes sense to me. All the many nutrition college classes I had, a million years ago, concentrated only on nutrition basics and such things as special needs diets. A lot, a WHOLE lot has changed since then.
Thanks for posting the question I had about whey (and casein). I'm not lactose intolerant either, but have given up all forms of it except for whey. I have NO problem with whey, and I'm a C. It doesn't make my "C" worse or better. I've tested it. There is one whey protein powder mix on the market I drink that just makes me feel good-good-good and does anything but throw me into an attack, in fact, quite the reverse.
But here again, we're ALL different as to what is a trigger and what isn't.
Whew, you right you won't have much time for the boards once you start your new job!!!! That and school and a family???? I don't know how you do it, but we here are all proud of you for it.
Kandee
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sounds like very interesting resding. good luck on your paper you will probsbly get an A.
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BEvRS; iAM SURPRISED you didn't GAIN weight with all those calories, it sounds like a very unhealthy diet overall. I wonder why it is so popular with that in mind.
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Because it's not just lactose that you can be intolent of, sometimes it's the milk altogether. Like personally, if I drink Lactaid milk it still kills my stomach, and Lactaid pills do nothing for me. I'm just intolerent of milk altogether.
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