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      #372461 - 09/11/15 03:34 AM
oatcake

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Loc: London

Hi,

I'm still having trouble breaking the cycle...
I was wondering if the B vitamin I'm taking would be a problem, the ingredients are:

Microcrystalline Cellulose, Dicalcium Phosphate, Nicotinamide, Calcium Pantothenate, Silicon Dioxide, Magnesium Stearate, Croscarmellose Sodium, Pyroxidine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Thiamin Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Biotin, Cyancobalamin.

Aside from that maybe the medication tablets I take (amitriptyline) or the colpermin peppermint capsule could be too hard?

Or the caplets that my probiotics are encased in?


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Re: Supplements new
      #372462 - 09/11/15 03:46 AM
oatcake

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And I am eating plain grilled chicken and cod as I am starving, is that ok?

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Re: Supplements new
      #372463 - 09/11/15 06:46 AM
shelgirl

Reged: 09/22/09
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Could never, ever tolerate B vitamins.....every time I tried, I would burp them up all day, which was an indicator that my stomach wasn't liking them Vitamins in general are just hard on my stomach so I gave up!

Broiled, grilled, etc...chicken, fish, etc.. and baked potatoes are my "go to"....usually will eat for a couple days to get things back on track.....good luck....

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Re: Supplements new
      #372465 - 09/11/15 11:18 AM
HeatherAdministrator

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Yes, vitamins can upset the gut. Try stopping it for a few days and see if that helps.

Also, the amitriptyline can definitely affect the gut - ask your doc and pharmacist about that, and if there would be better options.

The plain white meat chicken is fine, but have something like white rice to get yourself a good soluble fiber foundation to stabilize the gut.

The pep oil caps should help, not hurt.

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Re: Supplements new
      #372469 - 09/13/15 02:50 AM
oatcake

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Thanks for replying! Extra input is SO useful..
I'll give my vitamins a miss for a few days and carry on with the plain chicken and fish with dinner

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Re: Supplements new
      #372470 - 09/13/15 02:59 AM
oatcake

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Thanks for replying Heather! Very much appreciated...

I take the amitriptyline for my IBS to help calm the gut and reduce spasms.

What I'm unsure about is the micro-crystalline cellulose used as filler in medications as wikipedia describes it as 'refined wood pulp' and that sounds like insoluble fiber to me!

I've been taking my medications on an empty stomach so it may be causing issues...?

So much to reassess when beginning to look at IBS from this standpoint!

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Re: Supplements new
      #372471 - 09/14/15 09:20 AM
RhiannonsMom

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We're just starting to try supplementing with L Glutamine (supposedly helps heal intestinal lining). Too soon to tell if it's working, but it's also something you might look in to.

Also, anyone out there tried something called "Seacure"? Some kind of specialized fish protein that helps with IBS (especially with IBS pain and bloating according to the reviews I read). It may be another scam--all of us who suffer from this or who have family members who suffer from IBS will try just about anything to get a life back.

If anyone out there has tried L Glutamine or Seacure, it would be interesting to hear your results. Desperation will make us try lots of things we never thought we would.


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Re: Supplements new
      #372472 - 09/14/15 09:54 AM
RhiannonsMom

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If you can stand it, when my daughter can't eat anything else, we do a steamed rice with tofu and a bitter of ginger with soy sauce (gluten free--Tamari). Also, rice with vanilla soy milk as a "ruce pudding" when everything else causes an attack. Sometimes that gets us through the tough spots.
It all depends on your reaction to soy.
Hope this helps. If you have any questions, just let me know.
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L glutamine can't hurt, but not sure it will help. Have never heard of Seacure, so sorry. -nt- new
      #372474 - 09/14/15 03:40 PM
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Re: Supplements new
      #372475 - 09/14/15 03:43 PM
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The fillers and binders in capsules/pills are usually so minute in quantity that unless you have an actual allergy to them, they're not likely to cause problems.

I would definitely find out more about whether your meds are to be taken with or without food - that could make a huge difference in GI side effects. Especially true if you can/should take something with food but are taking on an empty stomach.

Also double check about the amitriptyline - might need dose adjusted if GI symptoms are changing. And if your version of the med recently changed (from brand to generic, or one generic manufacturer to another) it's worth asking the pharmacist about that too. Sometimes tiny changes to prescription meds make a big impact, even when it's just a different version of the same med.

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Re: Supplements new
      #372477 - 09/15/15 04:23 AM
oatcake

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I've tried both l-glutamine and Seacure with good results.
Both made the sensation in my tummy more . . comfortable? My insides felt more peaceful.
L-glutamine also made my BM's more formed.
I've heard of good results with both and neither are scams as far as I know.
For now i'm taking a break from all supplements because it's my diet that needs the most help!
I've been drinking coffee and eating pretty much only insoluble fiber for about 5 years!!!

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Re: Supplements new
      #372478 - 09/15/15 04:33 AM
oatcake

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I'll try taking any pills with food just in case...

I usually take prucalopride 2mg, amitriptylne 20mg, a small b vitamin (all with micro-crystalline cellulose) and some probiotics in cellulose capsules.

They can all be taken with or without food at whatever time of day suits you really.

I'll keep analysing my diet because I still have a spasm in my splenic flexure after some meals but not others.

Other than that the diet is really suiting me and
I'm sooo much less bloated while eating carbs all day!!!





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Re: Supplements new
      #372479 - 09/15/15 04:45 AM
oatcake

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Thanks!
I'm good with soy and apparently gluten too!
I thought I was gluten sensitive as I hadn't eaten it for years and when I tried it again I had puffy eyes... turns out my eyes were puffy because I was a bit constipated! woops..

I'm now finding white pasta and bread to be some of the most soothing foods so I'm very pleased!

I *think* i'm doing well with beetroot, carrot, banana and mango now but if I still can't get my tummy to completely calm down I'll go back and try some rice pudding for a few days..



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Re: Supplements new
      #372480 - 09/15/15 11:26 AM
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Check the probiotic for inulin and FOS - they're adding those to everything now and they cause awful bloating and gas.

You may want to stop the B vitamin for a week or two and see if you notice a difference - sometimes vitamins are just really hard on people. Prenatal or liquid vitamins might be better tolerated.

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Re: Supplements new
      #372724 - 02/17/16 02:56 PM
sgcray

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It got so hard finding another sublingual spray multi-vitamin with all the vites in it, (like you'd think there would be) and similar milligrams etc to replace one a company discontinued;I just went back to liquid idea, and found one that happened to be only sweetened with stevia called RUSH. Spills alot, so have to hold close to mouth when pooring into spoon

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