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Are Lactose-Free products safe??
      #372288 - 07/31/15 05:56 PM
aaliya

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Since dairy is a trigger, are lactose free products safe? for example, Go Veggie cheese is lactose free. is it safe?
Ingredients:
Water, Casein* (milk protein), Canola Oil, Sodium Phosphate, Enzyme-modified Cheese* (milk, cream, salt, natural flavor, enzymes, mono and diglycerides, sodium citrate, sodium phosphate, cheese culture),contains 2% Or Less Of Calcium Phosphate, Organic Rice Flour, Rice Starch, Lactic Acid (non-dairy), Sea Salt, Carrageenan, Sorbic Acid (preservative), Organic Soy Flour, Carotenal (color), Natural Flavor, Vitamin E, Vitamin C, Ferric Orthophosphate, Vitamin A Palmitate, Vitamin B6, Folic Acid, Riboflavin (vitamin B2), Vitamin D3, Vitamin B12. *Adds a trivial amount of cholesterol.

What about products with small amounts of dairy in them. Are they safe or should they be completely avoided as well?
I know drinking a whole glass of milk may trigger symptoms, but what about foods with small amounts of dairy in them?


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Re: Are Lactose-Free products safe?? new
      #372289 - 07/31/15 06:50 PM
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Quote:

Since dairy is a trigger, are lactose free products safe? for example, Go Veggie cheese is lactose free. is it safe?
Ingredients:
Water, Casein* (milk protein), Canola Oil, Sodium Phosphate, Enzyme-modified Cheese* (milk, cream, salt, natural flavor, enzymes, mono and diglycerides, sodium citrate, sodium phosphate, cheese culture),contains 2% Or Less Of Calcium Phosphate, Organic Rice Flour, Rice Starch, Lactic Acid (non-dairy), Sea Salt, Carrageenan, Sorbic Acid (preservative), Organic Soy Flour, Carotenal (color), Natural Flavor, Vitamin E, Vitamin C, Ferric Orthophosphate, Vitamin A Palmitate, Vitamin B6, Folic Acid, Riboflavin (vitamin B2), Vitamin D3, Vitamin B12. *Adds a trivial amount of cholesterol.

What about products with small amounts of dairy in them. Are they safe or should they be completely avoided as well?

I know drinking a whole glass of milk may trigger symptoms, but what about foods with small amounts of dairy in them?




>AVOID UNTIL TESTED OUT THE DIET LONGER and have had NO SPASMING;There are plenty of things available now with no dairy you might find after shopping longer term on this diet.
>NO DAIRY as we have mentioned due to its casein protein too, even though lactose and fat free. There is soy flour in this alternative "some" are sensitive to, soy protein only is better. Carrageenan is a trigger for ibs in a lot of literature. DAIYA shredded cheddar in particular, barring the ingredients change, is really good at Sprouts and now at the larger Fry's stores!

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Re: Are Lactose-Free products safe?? new
      #372303 - 08/02/15 07:58 AM
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Many people with IBS can tolerate lactose-free products

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Re: Are Lactose-Free products safe??- For Syl new
      #372310 - 08/02/15 01:40 PM
aaliya

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Some lactose-free products have Casein in them which is a milk protein. Are they still safe to consume?

What do you think about Whey protein isolate?

I also found these vegan protein powders. Do they look safe to you?

Sunwarrior Raw Protein:
Proprietary Protein Blend (Raw Organic Pea Protein, Raw Cranberry Protein, Raw Organic Hemp Seed Protein), Organic Dutch Cacao, Organic Chocolate Extract, Organic Vanilla Extract, Stevia, Natural Cherry Extract, Medium Chain Triglycerides, Ancient Sea Salt, Herbal (Tea Leaf) Extract, Natural Fibers (Fenugreek, Konjac), Natural Citrus Extract.

Naturade Pea Protein:
Pea Protein Isolate, Fructose, Sunower Oil, Inulin Fiber (CHICORY), Natural Flavors, Xylitol, Erythritol, Maltodextrin, Potassium Citrate, Calcium Phosphate, Medium Chain Triglycerides, Sodium Chloride, Sodium Citrate, Xanthan Gum, Guar Gum, Carrageenan, Stevia Leaf Extract.

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Re: Are Lactose-Free products safe??- For Syl new
      #372315 - 08/03/15 02:16 PM
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From a FODMAP perspective they are safe. However, after you have tried lactose free dairy and if you find it is still a problem then eliminate all dairy and see how it goes.

I won't take any protein supplement. It is always best to get protein from natural sources. Egg white omelette contains loads of protein or small can of tuna

Naturade Pea Protein - has fructose & inulin- so is high FODMAP - both would be a problem for me


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Re: Are Lactose-Free products safe??- For Syl new
      #372318 - 08/03/15 03:45 PM
aaliya

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Yes, I figured the Pea Protein wouldn't be safe because of the ingredients. Does the Sunwarrior protein I mentioned look safe to you?

What about this one? Veggie Elite protein powder:
Pea protein concentrate, organic brown rice protein concentrate, natural chocolate mocha flavor, TreLEAFia (stevia leaf extract, trehalose, and monk fruit extract), gum blend (konjac gum, guar gum, and tara gum), salt, and Digest-ALL VP (a vegan enzyme blend).

Thank you!!


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No - it's the dairy, not just the lactose in the dairy - new
      #372319 - 08/05/15 09:55 AM
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check here http://www.helpforibs.com/diet/faq.asp#dairy for more details.

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Re: No - it's the dairy, not just the lactose in the dairy - new
      #372321 - 08/05/15 12:36 PM
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Thanks Heather! what do you think about these vegan protein powders? do either look safe to you?

Veggie Elite protein powder:
Pea protein concentrate, organic brown rice protein concentrate, natural chocolate mocha flavor, TreLEAFia (stevia leaf extract, trehalose, and monk fruit extract), gum blend (konjac gum, guar gum, and tara gum), salt, and Digest-ALL VP (a vegan enzyme blend).

Sunwarrior Raw protein blend:
Proprietary protein blend (raw organic pea protein, raw cranberry protein, raw organic hemp seed protein ), organic dutch cacao, organic chocolate extract, organic vanilla extract, stevia, natural cherry extract, medium chain triglycerides, ancient sea salt, herbal (tea leaf) extract, natural fibers (fenugreek, konjac), natural citrus extract

Btw, I have heard a lot about food combining (combining fruit+other foods) causes the fruit to ferment and causes digestive discomfort. I have also heard to only eat fruit in the morning on an empty stomach and not again after eating any other food. Do you think any of these food theories make sense to you?


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Re: No - it's the dairy, not just the lactose in the dairy - new
      #372324 - 08/05/15 07:48 PM
sgcray

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Liquid eggwhite is in the books.

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Re: No - it's the dairy, not just the lactose in the dairy - new
      #372326 - 08/06/15 10:41 AM
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Hi - the pea protein might cause a lot of bloating and gas. You'd have to try a small amount daily and see how you do. If you tolerate soy you can get vegan soy protein powders - I've had good luck with those. Again, try small amounts and see how you do.

The food combining thing is from the 70s and doesn't make any sense to me. Fruit on an empty stomach is a bad idea for IBS unless it's bananas - the insoluble fiber is high, and there could be too much fructose. Much better to chop/cook/blend fruit to break down the insoluble fiber, and have with soluble fiber foods to keep your gut calm.

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Re: No - it's the dairy, not just the lactose in the dairy - new
      #372327 - 08/06/15 12:12 PM
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Thanks Heather. Any reason why the pea proteins would cause bloating/gas? I don't see any triggers on the ingredient list.

Also, I noticed that clif bars are on your safe snacks list, but they contain inulin (chicory root), which I thought was a trigger for IBS. Are they still safe?

I am also trying to follow a low fodmap diet and noticed that a lot of things such as avocado, onions, garlic, beans, honey, etc. should be avoided, but these are used in a lot of recipes in your cookbook. The low fodmap diet also says that eggs are ok to eat, but you listed them as a trigger. Could you please clarify? All this information is making me so confused!


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Re: No - it's the dairy, not just the lactose in the dairy - new
      #372328 - 08/06/15 01:30 PM
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Hi - you really need to work with a dietitian if you want to follow the FODMAPS approach. This is a highly, highly individualized approach. The point is to find your specific (if any) FODMAPS sensitivities. It takes a few months to do that, and you have to do it methodically and carefully.

What you don't want is to eliminate all FODMAPS, forever and ever - that's not the point of that diet, and it would leave you with serious nutritional shortfalls.

Start with the eating for IBS diet foundation - eliminate the trigger foods completely (red meat, dairy, greasy foods, coffee, soda pop, alcohol).

Get a soluble fiber foundation to all meals and snacks.

Use that foundation to carefully add as much insoluble fiber as you can, following the guidelines (cook, chop, blend, etc. these foods to break down the insoluble fiber before you even eat it).

That's your baseline - see how you do. If you need to, add in the FODMAPs on top of that - but seriously, work with a dietitian trained in both IBS and FODMAPs diet issues to do this safely and effectively. It's a very personal diet, so once you find your specific FODMAPs triggers, modify recipes to suit those needs. Almost any recipes I have you can likely easily modify to suit your own FODMAPS needs - but you have to find those needs first. It's not a blanket exclusion of all things for all people.

Clif bars didn't used to have inulin. Always read ingredients - things change constantly. You made a really good catch with the inulin in these bars - avoid inulin like the plague. I'll update the snack list.

Egg yolks are a trigger due to high fat - whites are fine. Small amounts of yolks can be safe - you can't go fat free, but go low fat.

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Re: No - it's the dairy, not just the lactose in the dairy - new
      #372330 - 08/06/15 08:17 PM
aaliya

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Thank you! I was just very confused b/c my GI doctor told me to follow a fodmap diet and almost all the websites I have been on are saying the same.

Can you please tell me why the pea protein powders I listed may cause gas and bloating? the ingredients looked safe to me.
Do you recommend any safe brands?

I also found a recipe for "banana ice cream", which is made from simply blending 2-3 frozen bananas. Since bananas are a 'safe' food, would this be safe to eat? Just wanted to make sure since it does use more than one banana and that is the only ingredient.


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Re: No - it's the dairy, not just the lactose in the dairy - new
      #372331 - 08/06/15 08:33 PM
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Also, what do you think of this protein powder? (It's not pea)
http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/p/garden-of-life-raw-protein-chocolate-cacao-650-g-powder/gu-7031#.VcQqPELOY_s

I have trouble with whole grains, but this is made from sprouted brown rice. It also has 4g of soluble and only 1g of insoluble fiber.

Ingredients:
ORGANIC RAW SPROUT BLEND (ORGANIC SPROUTED BROWN RICE PROTEIN, ORGANIC AMARANTH SPROUT, ORGANIC QUINOA SPROUT, ORGANIC MILLET SPROUT, ORGANIC BUCKWHEAT SPROUT, ORGANIC GARBANZO BEAN SPROUT, ORGANIC KIDNEY BEAN SPROUT, ORGANIC LENTIL SPROUT, ORGANIC ADZUKI BEAN SPROUT, ORGANIC FLAX SEED SPROUT, ORGANIC SUNFLOWER SEED SPROUT, ORGANIC PUMPKIN SEED SPROUT, ORGANIC CHIA SEED SPROUT, ORGANIC SESAME SEED SPROUT)
Other Ingredients:
RAW natural chocolate flavor, RAW organic cacao, RAW organic stevia (leaf), RAW natural vanilla flavor, Brewer's years (Saccharomyces cerevisiae), Lactobacillus bulgaricus, Natto. Contains (fermented) soy.


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Re: No - it's the dairy, not just the lactose in the dairy - new
      #372332 - 08/06/15 09:20 PM
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Last question I promise!
I have this sugar free syrup I haven't opened or used yet and I was wondering if it was safe.
(It is by the company Walden Farms, so it is calorie-free as well, so no carbs/fiber)

Ingredients*: Triple Filtered Purified Water, Caramel Flavor, Vegetable Fiber, Caramel Color, Natural Flavors, Vanilla, Sucralose, Food Color, Sea Salt, Potassium Sorbate (To Preserve Freshness)



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Re: sucralose and vegetable fiber new
      #372334 - 08/07/15 10:39 AM
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For sucralose info: http://www.helpforibs.com/news/newsletter/081005.html#askheather

Vegetable fiber, if isn't countable on the nutritional profile label is very minimal, but it can be high in insoluble in larger quantity.

You have the books' info and you can also do a search on ingredients on this site and searching the internet.

Edited by sgcray (08/07/15 10:55 AM)

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banana icecream new
      #372335 - 08/07/15 10:57 AM
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If using as a dessert, eat maybe 1/2 a banana's worth of it.

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Re: No - it's the dairy, not just the lactose in the dairy -/Protein Powder new
      #372337 - 08/07/15 01:41 PM
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At Sprout's there are soy protein isolate, brown rice protein isolate and the eggwhite powder. All had minimal ingredients like vanilla flavoring and maybe a little lecithin. If you want to no-cal. sweeten it, try a little pure stevia powder;Doesn't take much. As far as wanting fiber in it;There is the acacia powder or the fiber from the fruits.

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Lactose free products are quite okay for some people .... new
      #372347 - 08/09/15 05:23 AM
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as not everyone with IBS has troubles with other components in dairy products. This has been shown clearly by the Monash group where they used whey in some of their clinical trials and showed it was not a trigger. Give lactose free a try and see if it works for you as there is no single rule about dairy and IBS management

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