Hi all, a question..
#370584 - 11/06/13 11:15 PM
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I am brand new to the board and to Heathers Peppermint oil caps and the fiber. So far they are helping but I have a long way to go. I know that garlic and onions are IBS triggers and for me there is no doubt. Eating them give me HORRIBLE gas that lasts for hours. Unfortunately I really love these ingredients. Anyone have any luck getting over these reactions? Even in small amounts they cause a lengthy problem.
Thanks so much.
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It is well known that garlic and onions contain a constituent that can worsen IBS symptoms. For more information this article by a dietitian may be useful The FODMAP Approach to Managing IBS Symptoms
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Thanks I've gone long periods without them, but I was hoping at some point my body would be able to handle just small amounts. I guess this is wishful thinking?
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I don't have any problem with the FODMAPS aspect of them, so cooking breaks down the insoluble fiber and off-gasses the sulfur, and that makes a big difference for me. I wouldn't eat them without a soluble fiber foundation, but if I take those steps I have a really good tolerance for them.
If you can't eat them at all I don't know of a lot of great substitutes. You might try different varieties (sweet onions like Maui instead of regular yellow onions, or green onions instead, or shallots instead of garlic, etc.) That might help - not sure, but may be worth a try.
You might also try onion / garlic powders and salts, and see if that helps.
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Garlic/onion powder and salts can still be a problem for many people as they still contain fructans. However, garlic infused oil is quite safe as the fructans are not soluble in oil. The garlic flavor is imparted to the oil without the fructans leaving the garlic and entering the oil. I make my own garlic infused oil but you have be careful in how you make it. Google it and you will find some safe ways of producing garlic infused oil 
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Hi Syl,
Thanks so much for the great info about the garlic infused oil. Do you think it would also work for onions or even.
Also, do you know if he garlic infused oil would be ok for GERD?
Cheerio
CynthiaS
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I have not heard anything about onion infused oil. It might work too. Apparently garlic and onions are not good fro GERD 
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Heather,
I ate a Lean Cuisine frozen beef stew dinner with onions cooked in the sauce. The dinner contained potatoes, carrots, and green beans. The carrots and green beans seemed a little crunchy.
A couple of hours after I ate this dinner I had MANY loose stools! I was surprised since I thought it was all right for IBSers to eat SOME insoluble fiber foods.
WHERE did I go WRONG? I have already decided to NEVER buy this particular frozen dinner again! It's a real shame because it did taste very good and was quite healthy too!
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It quite possibly could have been the onions. Onions like artichokes, garlic, leeks and a variety of other foods contain fructans - a FODMAP - clinically shown to worsen IBS symptoms in some people. Check the first three links in my signature for more information on the FODMAP approach to managing IBS symptoms
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Thanks SO much, Syl!!
I printed off the cheat sheet regarding the FODMAPS foods that are suitable and are NOT!! Onions are listed, but in the past, I was able to scrape onions off of foods and I was all right.
Maybe the level of onion was just higher in that frozen dinner which I will NEVER buy again!!
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That's strange! I have eaten many hamburgers since my IBS returned last July and I have NEVER had a problem with beef!
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Green beans could be the issue as they're high in fodmaps. Same with onions.
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Even though the package may say "healthy choice" or "healthy' whatever, it's not the case. All that pre-made frozen stuff is filled with preservatives. I don't believe it's the carrots or beans that would cause the problem. Many times, on the ingredients list it will also say "natural flavors". What natural flavors really stands for is "hidden crap". Much healthier to take carrots, potatoes, beans, meat, etc throw in crockpot and cook all day. That way you will know exactly what's going into your body.
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According to Monash green beans are okay
http://www.med.monash.edu/cecs/gastro/fodmap/low-high.html
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This is what I'm confused about. The FODMAP diet book states that fructans and especially onions are the top IBS irritant; she goes so far as to say you can't even cook with them and then take them out, they're that insidious. I know I have IBS - went through all the tests to make sure I didn't have anything else, etc - but onions are not a problem for me. I love onions! I cook with them all the time!
So am I to chuck the FODMAP plan? I'm not going to stop eating onions if they don't cause distress. The book says that the majority of IBS patients get relief from following this diet strictly - could I really be in that small minority that won't? I'm so confused.
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Hi - This is one of my big, big frustrations with the FODMAPS plan. The whole point is that people are supposed to determine their very own specific FODMAPS sensitivities - to fructans, polyols, etc. And about 1/3 of people with IBS have NO problem with FODMAPS and get no relief from that diet.
Instead, too many folks are getting the impression that they're supposed to remove all FODMAPS from their diet, forever, which is exactly what you shouldn't do. It would be a really unhealthy diet if you did that.
This is why people with IBS are supposed to only do the FODMAPS restrictions with a trained dietitian - to remove that risk. But it doesn't seem to be working like this in real life - I'm so sorry.
You may well have no problem with fructans. Since onions don't bother you, that is quite likely. I don't agree - at all - that fructans are the top IBS irritant. That is ludicrous. The much more common - and definitely much more universal - triggers are IBS stimulants and irritants like fats, coffee, alchol, insoluble fiber, etc. NONE of those are FODMAPS - they're triggers to be minimized/avoided as a baseline, and then you'd determine your specific FODMAPS limitations (if any) on top of that.
Onions can also be trouble because of the insoluble fiber and sulfur. But - you can minimize those greatly by cooking them. Cooking will not affect fructans, however, so if FODMAPS were the issue raw vs cooked won't matter.
So - if you don't have a problem with fructans, you are not alone. Many other people with IBS won't, either.
XXOO
Heather
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