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Is this probiotic ok for IBS?
      #370420 - 10/10/13 07:43 AM
CynthiaS

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Hi,
I am looking for a probiotic that is good for IBS.
Has anyone heard of this?
ULTIMATE FLORA ULTRA POTENT 100 BILLION
It is refrigerated.

I hope it is ok to post this link, if not please remove.
(Correct link)
http://www.ultimatefloraprobiotic.com/Ultimate-Flora-Ultra-Potent-100-Billion-p/15350.htm

Cheerio
CynthiaS

Very Underweight, 5'4'' 110 lbs)and trying to gain weight.\
. IBS-D,Gas,GERD,nausea,gluten allergy and sensitive to most flours. So far the only grain I am able to eat is rice.

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Re: Is this probiotic ok for IBS? new
      #370422 - 10/10/13 12:47 PM
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You might look for one with the same bacteria in another product but without FOS as an 'Other Ingredient'.

FOS is a short chained rapidly fermenting soluble fiber known to cause problems for some individuals with IBS. You can read about it in the first link in my signature.

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Re: Is this probiotic ok for IBS? new
      #370425 - 10/10/13 02:02 PM
CynthiaS

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Hi Syl,
Thanks for the info.
Actually, I posted the info from a different brand than I am getting. I looked it up and it does not contain the FOS.
Thanks so much for your help.
Cheerio
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Re: Is this probiotic ok for IBS? new
      #370512 - 10/22/13 01:22 PM
tracyla2

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I have been using Prescript-Assist, which is also recommended on the Gaps Diet. An MD I work for insisted I take an antibiotic shot, and unfortunately I did. I immediatly upped my Acacia Fiber and peppermint tea. I was still having awful diarrha sympoms "again" But started rigorously adding fermented foods, and this probiotic. It is recommended to take it twice a day for a month after antibiotics. I would say that my gut habits are more normal then they were since even before I took the antibiotic. And I thought they were as normal as they were going to get with the Heather's Fiber and Peppermint tea, which was pretty darn good.

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Re: Is this probiotic ok for IBS? new
      #370515 - 10/22/13 07:52 PM
Candy07

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What is FOS?? I am also using this probiotic. I got it at Walmart.

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      #370517 - 10/23/13 03:53 AM
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FOA is fructo-oligosaccharides which are rapidly fermenting soluble fiber that can be an IBS trigger.

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      #370520 - 10/23/13 10:33 AM
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In what foods or other substances are these found? Is there a list I can go to check?

Thanks MUCH, Syl, as always!!

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Do NOT use FOS or inulin as a fiber supplement if you have IBS... new
      #370523 - 10/23/13 01:13 PM
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they can cause extreme bloating and gas. They're getting popular because they're dirt cheap, so they're popping up in all kinds of fiber supplements and also processed foods.

They're basically a manufacturing by-product from the food industry. They're prebiotic, but not in a good way, because they ferment very rapidly in the gut. Good prebiotics have a very slow fermentation, so they don't have the gas and bloating risk. But good prebiotic soluble fibers are much more expensive raw ingredients.

See here soluble fiber supplements for a rundown on soluble fiber options and suitability for IBS.

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Heather, does that mean the probiotic should not be used new
      #370524 - 10/23/13 02:31 PM
CynthiaS

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Hi Heather,
Thanks for your post.
With that probiotic it is 1 enteric coated capsule taken once a day. Is there enough of the FOS in that capsule to trigger the IBS gas and bloating?
Cheerio
CynthiaS

IBS-D,Gas,gluten allergy and flour sensitive. So far the only grain I am able to eat is rice.

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Re: Is this probiotic ok for IBS? new
      #370528 - 10/23/13 05:17 PM
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You have to read the label of every food, supplement, beverage - anything you eat - FOS and other unfriendly ingredients are liable to show up anywhere.


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Re: Heather, does that mean the probiotic should not be used new
      #370549 - 10/28/13 02:02 PM
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That may be trial and error - it's likely a minute amount. But be careful, see how you do.

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Re: Heather, does that mean the probiotic should not be used new
      #370552 - 10/29/13 09:58 AM
CynthiaS

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Hi Heather,
Thanks so much. I do hope it works but I will definitely be careful.
cheerio
CynthiaS

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Re: Heather, does that mean the probiotic should not be used new
      #370553 - 10/29/13 01:26 PM
Candy07

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I am on this probiotic and it seems to be helping me?

Maybe I shouldn't say anything, since I have only been on it a very short time!!!

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Re: Heather, does that mean the probiotic should not be used new
      #370554 - 10/29/13 03:32 PM
DADKOOL

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THERE IS A PROBIOTIC THAT IS MADE JUST FOR IBS IT'S CALLED VSL#3 ..IT HAS HELP ME A LOT..MOST SHOULD AT LEAST TRY IT


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Re: Heather, does that mean the probiotic should not be used new
      #370555 - 10/30/13 12:32 PM
Candy07

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How would we obtain this??

Thanks Much!

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Re: Heather, does that mean the probiotic should not be used new
      #370559 - 10/30/13 03:31 PM
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You should be able to buy it over the counter at any large pharmacy or on-line at http://vsl3.com/

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Re: Heather, does that mean the probiotic should not be used new
      #370560 - 10/30/13 05:13 PM
Candy07

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Thanks a LOT, Syl, I really appreciate it!!

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Re: Is this probiotic ok for IBS? new
      #370592 - 11/08/13 02:14 PM
Candy07

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Cynthia,

How long have you been on this probiotic now? How are you doing on it? I am doing quite well on it, thank you!

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Re: Heather, does that mean the probiotic should not be used new
      #370617 - 11/15/13 04:20 PM
Candy07

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I have checked this out, but it costs $86! WOW!! Is it WORTH the cost??

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Re: Is this probiotic ok for IBS? new
      #370628 - 11/17/13 06:59 PM
lardman

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Hi all, been a while since I posted...but I need some help. I was a D for about 15 years (the last 5 years were pretty stable), then it suddenly switched to bloating and gas for a few months then switched to C for a few months...then back to stable. Now I am suddenly in the gas phase. I am lactose intolerant (cheese is ok but no milk or yogurt) so my bacteria is probably a mess which could be causing the foul, excessive gas. I tried a a Schiff probiotic pill last "gas" time but it gave me horrible pain and D. Is there a particular one out there that is good for IBS? I saw the previous posts but there was really only one reference to the $86 one. Thanks for your help.

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Re: Heather, does that mean the probiotic should not be used new
      #370629 - 11/18/13 02:54 AM
mradams1

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Hi Syl,

I recently read a meta-analysis of probiotic use in IBS (I'm sure you've probably seen it). It concludes that some specific strains of bacteria may help to relieve IBS symptoms in some patients. Other than VSL#3 (which doesn't fair too well in trials) and Align they don't seem to mention specific probiotics that can be purchased and instead refer to the various strains of bacteria. While this is interesting it's difficult to know which probiotic to try. Do you have any thoughts/recommendations other than VSL#3/Align.

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Re: Heather, does that mean the probiotic should not be used new
      #370635 - 11/18/13 09:49 AM
Syl

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Bifidobacterium species in general are consider best. From what I have read and heard VSL#3 is one of the best

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