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Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | (show all) Re: FENNEL AND CHAMOMILLE TEA ARE HIGH FODMAP TEAS       #369893 - 07/31/13 09:32 AM Edit Reply Quote Syl Reged: 03/13/05 Posts: 5499 Loc: SK, CANADA Thanks! However, it says "Camomile and fennel tea have fructans–boo! BUT, tolerance may vary." It depends on how strong you make the tea and how much one can tolerate. PS - it would be helpful if you could fix the link as there is an error in the syntax. -------------------- STABLE: ♂, IBS-D 50+ years - Science of IBS The FODMAP Approach to Managing IBS Symptoms Evidence-based Dietary Management of Functional GI Symptoms: The FODMAP Approach FODMAP Chart & Cheatsheet The Role of Food & Dietary Intervention in IBS Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator     Re: FENNEL AND CHAMOMILLE TEA ARE HIGH FODMAP TEAS       #369894 - 07/31/13 10:27 AM Edit Reply Quote Heather Reged: 12/09/02 Posts: 7799 Loc: Seattle, WA Where is the citation for the actual clinical study on this? I can't find anything in pubmed by Monash University related to the blog post at all. There are some fruit/veggie citations by nothing for the teas. - H -------------------- Heather is the Administrator of the IBS Message Boards. She is the author of Eating for IBS and The First Year: IBS, and the CEO of Heather's Tummy Care. Join her IBS Newsletter. Meet Heather on Facebook! Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator     There will not be any clinical studies required ....       #369895 - 07/31/13 12:33 PM Edit Reply Quote Syl Reged: 03/13/05 Posts: 5499 Loc: SK, CANADA It will have come from a laboratory analysis of fructans in teas done at Monash University. Fennel bulb has been on the high FODMAP list for some time. Fructans are known to be water soluble. The question might have been the amount of fructans are in the fennel seeds and how much gets into solution when they are steeped in hot water. You might send Dr. Shepherd an email and as for clarification. If you get more information please post it. Thanks -------------------- STABLE: ♂, IBS-D 50+ years - Science of IBS The FODMAP Approach to Managing IBS Symptoms Evidence-based Dietary Management of Functional GI Symptoms: The FODMAP Approach FODMAP Chart & Cheatsheet The Role of Food & Dietary Intervention in IBS Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator     Re: There will not be any clinical studies required ....       #369896 - 07/31/13 12:39 PM Edit Reply Quote Heather Reged: 12/09/02 Posts: 7799 Loc: Seattle, WA Right - I'm looking for the Monash study (mentioned in the Scarlatta blog but not actually properly cited) and can't find it anywhere - not pubmed, not the Monash edu site, etc. Did they brew tea from fennel bulbs? Seeds? Indian or Mediterranean species? Botanical name? Right now there is no actual information I can find, just a blog ref with nothing to support it. Without knowing where the info came from I don't actually know what the information is. - H -------------------- Heather is the Administrator of the IBS Message Boards. She is the author of Eating for IBS and The First Year: IBS, and the CEO of Heather's Tummy Care. Join her IBS Newsletter. Meet Heather on Facebook! Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator     Re: There will not be any clinical studies required ....       #369897 - 07/31/13 12:59 PM Edit Reply Quote Syl Reged: 03/13/05 Posts: 5499 Loc: SK, CANADA On this web page she says "My colleague Patsy Catsos attended the most recent Monash University seminar on the low FODMAP diet and is on her way back to the States as we speak! To say I am excited to speak with Patsy on her return would be an understatement." Later in the New News section she states "Camomile and fennel tea have fructans–boo! BUT, tolerance may vary." Perhaps you could contact Patsy Catsos for more details. You are absolutely correct that the source and variety of fennel is very important. In their published work Monash is usually careful about identifying the food sources and varieties being analyzed. -------------------- STABLE: ♂, IBS-D 50+ years - Science of IBS The FODMAP Approach to Managing IBS Symptoms Evidence-based Dietary Management of Functional GI Symptoms: The FODMAP Approach FODMAP Chart & Cheatsheet The Role of Food & Dietary Intervention in IBS Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator     BTW --       #369898 - 07/31/13 01:20 PM Edit Reply Quote Syl Reged: 03/13/05 Posts: 5499 Loc: SK, CANADA If you don't have the following reference material I can send it to you. Muir, J. G., Rose, R., Rosella, O., Liels, K., Barrett, J. S., Shepherd, S. J., & Gibson, P. R. (2009). Measurement of Short-Chain Carbohydrates in Common Australian Vegetables and Fruits by High-Performance Liquid Chromatography (HPLC). Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, 57(2), 554-565. Muir, J. G., Shepherd, S. J., Rosella, O., Rose, R., Barrett, J. S., & Gibson, P. R. (2007). Fructan and Free Fructose Content of Common Australian Vegetables and Fruit. J. Agric. Food Chem., 55(16), 6619-6627. -------------------- STABLE: ♂, IBS-D 50+ years - Science of IBS The FODMAP Approach to Managing IBS Symptoms Evidence-based Dietary Management of Functional GI Symptoms: The FODMAP Approach FODMAP Chart & Cheatsheet The Role of Food & Dietary Intervention in IBS Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator     Re: There will not be any clinical studies required ....       #369899 - 07/31/13 03:23 PM Edit Reply Quote Heather Reged: 12/09/02 Posts: 7799 Loc: Seattle, WA Thank you - I'm hoping it hits pubmed. - H -------------------- Heather is the Administrator of the IBS Message Boards. She is the author of Eating for IBS and The First Year: IBS, and the CEO of Heather's Tummy Care. Join her IBS Newsletter. Meet Heather on Facebook! Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator     Re: FENNEL AND CHAMOMILLE TEA ARE HIGH FODMAP TEAS       #369905 - 08/01/13 09:05 AM Edit Reply Quote Cyndy Reged: 03/05/05 Posts: 1301 high fodmap teas Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator     There ya go, Syl. Corrected. Sorry! -nt-link included       #369906 - 08/01/13 09:06 AM Edit Reply Quote Cyndy Reged: 03/05/05 Posts: 1301 fodmaps in teas Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator     this is updated info from Monash! -nt       #369907 - 08/01/13 12:34 PM Edit Reply Quote Cyndy Reged: 03/05/05 Posts: 1301 Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator     Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | (show all)

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