asparagus and brussels sprouts
#364553 - 04/30/11 12:32 PM
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has anyone ever eaten these without a SF supplement and no problems?
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Susie, born in 1985,
(pseudo-)D and bloating April 2007-December 2010, now stable
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i have no problems with asparagus but OH MY GOD. i really love brussels sprouts, but they give me immense pain and gas!! even WITH sf. it's awful 
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thanks for that reply, well that is v strange as according to this new gem Syl found for me:
http://huhs.harvard.edu/assets/File/OurServices/Service_Nutrition_Fiber.pdf
SF outweighs IF in both. maybe you ate too much quantity-wise? as too much IF in itself even with enough SF can cause trouble!
they are both fructans though, so theoretically they should either both be causing problems or they shouldn't.
http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/072710p30.shtml
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Susie, born in 1985,
(pseudo-)D and bloating April 2007-December 2010, now stable
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yes, well. ibs is a very strange disorder, isn't it? ;P
i think it is just the sulfur compounds in the brussels sprouts, i don't actually think it has anything to do with SF content. cauliflower destroys me too.
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It helps to really cook these kind of veggies till they're super tender, or have in very limited quantities if they're raw.
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thanks!
I remember pre-IBS with no digestive woes at all, I still had gas from cabbage and broccoli and onions.
And lots of healthy people I know have complained of the same!
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Susie, born in 1985,
(pseudo-)D and bloating April 2007-December 2010, now stable
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http://mercurytalk.com/wiki/index.php/List_of_Foods_That_Contain_Sulphur
it's interesting though, I do have a lot and lot of gas from these foods, but seems to me that they are 'meant to be' bloating, and I did have gas from them even pre-IBS. So makes me wonder whether they really should be avoided if they cause no pain/D/C. They are relatively good on the SF-IF proportions scale and I always (over)cook everything so it may be fine for me. (and they are healthy!!) I get bloated from bananas, but I still eat them. Bloating is something that one can perhaps never entirely be rid of unless I drink a litre of hot peppermint tea spread throughout the day 
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now: stable through EFI+FODMAP dieting (no lactose/no fructose/some fructans and some polyols)
before: IBS-D(pseudo-diarrhoea), bloating, often unbearable pain esp from too much fat: Apr 2007- Dec 2010
FODMAPs: http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/072710p30.shtml
[I've tried VSL#3 -> I could tolerate v good amounts of IF (even with less SF), it worked great (but overall I find it too expensive)]
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Asparagus is high in fructans (inulin, oligofructose). Both asparagus and Brussel's sprouts are high in raffinose (an oligosaccharide). All these nutrients belong to soluble fiber, but they also all belong to FODMAPs (Fermentable Oligo-, Di-, Monosacharides and Polyols), which are problematic in fructose malabsorption. Those who have problems with both asparagus and Brussel's sprouts (and fructose, sucrose and polyols, like sorbitol) should consider testing for fructose malabsorption.
Soluble fiber is usually fermentable by colonic bacteria, which produce gas. Like said above, it may be a large quantity of soluble fiber that causes gas.
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I don't have IBS.
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thanks. one is not necessarily ultra-sensitive to all columns of the FODMAPs.
for raffinose I usually use beano with a large degree of success.
I do eat fructans, but definitely get more gas from onions than (wheat)bread even though both are OK-ish from an SF/IF perspective. I put it down to its sulphur content!?
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now: stable through EFI+FODMAP dieting (no lactose/no fructose/some fructans and some polyols)
before: IBS-D(pseudo-diarrhoea), bloating, often unbearable pain esp from too much fat: Apr 2007- Dec 2010
FODMAPs: http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/072710p30.shtml
[I've tried VSL#3 -> I could tolerate v good amounts of IF (even with less SF), it worked great (but overall I find it too expensive)]
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