acupuncture
#363494 - 02/18/11 06:05 PM
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For those of you that wonder if acupuncture works or not, it without a doubt can work wonders. I had a bad attack the last few days and decided to go for acupuncture before. I am completely amazed by how well a 45 min session worked. Ive gotten acupuncture before and have been helped alot by it but I never went when I was so sick like I was today. The difference is unbelievable, I feel like I had a heavy dose of drugs lol. YOU should all give it a try its amazing dont listen to anyone who tells you it doesn't work for stomach pains, it does.
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Re: acupuncture
#363495 - 02/19/11 03:51 AM
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I have tried acupuncture 3 times with a number of sessions each time. It didn't help even the smallest amount. This is inline with the clinical research reports of little to no effect of acupunture on IBS. There is a strong placebo effect.
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i dont care it works, im telling you, the results last night were unbelievable. I almost was going to go to the emergency room it hurt that bad and then I actually felt really good after and was able to eat quite a bit. Maybe they didn't treat you correctly. I dont care about those studies, there are also many studies saying it does work.
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Re: acupuncture
#363497 - 02/19/11 04:13 AM
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It is great that it worked for you.
The acupunturist I saw taught in China for many years and currently teaches medical students in the local hospitals. Even he told me that the success for IBS was limited at best.
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I just wish you wouldn't do that with the studies making it seem like it doesn't work when I know it could help so many people on this site. Even Heather's website talks about how it is effective for IBS http://www.helpforibs.com/footer/acupunct.asp#studies
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Re: acupuncture
#363499 - 02/19/11 05:17 AM
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The 2000 trial referred to on that page involved only 27 patients which is a very small trial. There have been many studies done since then including the 2009 study published in the prestigious Nature journal referenced below. It concluded "This study did not find evidence to support the superiority of acupuncture compared with sham acupuncture in the treatment of IBS". The results are indicative of the placebo effect which is strong from many proposed IBS treatments.
It can be a costly procedure for limited benefit. Of course if you have insurance that pays for it then by all means give it a try. I believe we had this discussion a couple of years ago. 
Reference
Lembo, A. J. et al. A Treatment Trial of Acupuncture in IBS Patients. . American Journal of Gastroenterology 104, 1489-1497 (2009).
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I had numerous acupuncture sessions this past summer and overall it was a positive experience for me.
I researched different clinics and ended up with one that had a great track record, not only by their own claims but by actual results from people I know.
I was fortunate to see improvement in my IBS, long term sleep issues, and as well headaches that have plagued me for years.
Is it the placebo affect? Who knows (or cares)....all I know is that I have not lost an entire day or two to a headache that sent me to bed in a drug induced haze, have had only a handful of nights that saw me tossing and turning for hours on end and have had more bowel movements on the normal end of the scale than not!
I believe in the power of positive thinking and never giving up, and when I started the acupuncture I was convinced that this was going to help me. And help me it did. I had no idea or thought that it would have helped sooooo much. I was looking for SOME improvement and ended up with so much more.
It turned out to be ONE of the many things that I use to deal with this condition.
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ooops....sorry to have butted in on this.
I didn't realize the timing of the posts and that you were both still hashing this out.
Backing out now..... 
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I went to this guy for 6 months for both accupuncture and chinese herbs:
http://beyondwellbeing.com/
I got NO help from either. It does not help everyone - glad it helped you. What a waste of money for me.
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No problem ...
#363503 - 02/19/11 05:50 AM
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All points of view are welcome and important to give others a complete perspective. 
I did have good result using acupunture to treat a back pain problem. And I always enjoy the feeling after the session. It just didn't have any beneficial effects on my IBS symptoms.
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I was treated with acupuncture several years ago and it was a very positive experience for me. I find it to be a very good alternative therapy. Not only did it help my gut, but it helped my overall well-being. 
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All I have to say is that the person who is treating you makes a huge difference in the results. If anyone has ever had neck pain and went for a massage, isnt it true that some therapists will help a lot and others will not. Its the same thing here. Just wanted to share so that others may give it a try and be helped by it too.
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Just remember, for every study found, while surfing the net, stating that it doesn't work, I can find as many more studies that say it does work. Studies are just that...studies. And it's all in what you are looking to prove or disprove.
The most important thing for you, is that it worked. From your personal experience, it worked for you and that is the most important thing. And it is wonderful for you to share that so others may decide to give it a try. It is all about personal choice.
All the other stuff, I just ignore and move on. Hope that helps!
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The fact is, apparently we are all different to a great extent and what works for some does not work for others. This seems to be a very individual illness.
Cheers.
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ibs-d (pseudo)with pain and bloating
Edited by capricorn1942 (02/19/11 09:27 AM)
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Acupuncture is something that so many people have great results for with so many things...and then other people don't get the same results for the same things.
I think the acupuncturist you see makes a huge difference, and if someone has the time/money to try this route the best part is it can't hurt. At worst, acupuncture usually leaves people feeling very relaxed, which is a great thing for IBS.
I think this is an area of treatment that's hard to judge by clinical studies alone. There are just too many variations in how people react and how effective individual practitioners are. It's just not like a drug you can study where it doesn't matter who gives it or how. With acupuncture it's all about the doctors - they actually kind of are the treatment.
I'd hate to discourage someone from trying this route if they're interested. Insurance covers it for a lot of folks, and there just isn't any risk of side effects or bad results. Worse case is it won't help your IBS, best case is it just might.
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Thanks Heather for responding to my email and agreeing!
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I am glad that acupuncture has worked for you. I am currently receiving acupuncture treatments for migraines. So far I have had a very positive experience. Have had four sessions and in 5 weeks I have only had one migraine. This is a big improvement for me since before the acupuncture I was getting a migraine once a week and each headache was lasting 3 days.
If you have insurance or the money it is worth a try.
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