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      #356762 - 03/17/10 11:35 AM
Cyndy

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Why can some people tolerate and be helped by Acacia, and others can't tolerate or find relief from it?

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      #356763 - 03/17/10 11:53 AM
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Some soluble fiber supplements are fermented by colonic bacteria in some people differently than other people. For example while many IBSers cannot handle soluble fiber supplements containing FOS because it ferments too rapidly producing lots of gas others can. Similarly, while most IBSers can handle psyllium because it contains 1/3 insoluble fiber others cannot tolerate it. It has a lot to do with the composition of the colonic flora which differs from person to person.

You may have to try a few different soluble fiber supplements until you find one that works for you.

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Re: Basic question new
      #356766 - 03/17/10 12:21 PM
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Quote:

Some soluble fiber supplements are fermented by colonic bacteria



But I thought acacia didn't ferment like some of the others.

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Re: Basic question new
      #356767 - 03/17/10 12:29 PM
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Hi - acacia ferments slowly in the gut, which makes it unlikely to cause gas and bloating. FOS and inulin ferment rapidly, which can cause gas and bloating even in people who don't have IBS.

Big rule of thumb for any fiber supplement is start at a low dose and increase gradually. A starting dose of acacia is only 1/2 tsp twice daily, and that should be increased by 1/2 tsp to one dose every 4 days or so.

Within those generalities, there are always going to be differences with individuals. What works for you is what matters, so try a variety, try them carefully, follow directions, give something at least a week or two, and see what ends up working best for you.

I do fine with psyllium (and was shocked to learn from book reader feedback that so many people with IBS do not). I feel like I'm having a heart attack when I use inulin (and I am not prone to bloating or gas). I have the best results by far with acacia senegal. You may have the exact opposite experiences.

Follow your gut.

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Re: Basic question new
      #356768 - 03/17/10 12:31 PM
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Acacia is a fermentable soluble fiber supplement that is why Heather recommends increasing the dose slowly. If you want a non-fermentable soluble fiber supplement you might try one containing calcium polycarbophil such as Fibercon

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Re: Basic question new
      #356769 - 03/17/10 12:42 PM
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While all of us differ in our needs and gut reactions, I must honestly say that Heather's acacia and peppermint capsules have worked miracles for my body. I will take them and recommend them forever to friends and family who are experiencing IBS symptoms and beyond.

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Re: Basic question new
      #356772 - 03/17/10 01:10 PM
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wish i newso i could help you hope you get well soon

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Heather have you ... new
      #356774 - 03/17/10 03:42 PM
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seen this interesting document? I presume you have but if you don't have it I can email it to you

Phillips, G. O., Ogasawara, T., & Ushida, K. (2008). The regulatory and scientific approach to defining gum arabic (Acacia senegal and Acacia seyal) as a dietary fibre . Food Hydrocolloids 8th International Hydrocolloids Conference, 22(1), 24-35

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Re: Heather have you ... new
      #356775 - 03/17/10 03:56 PM
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Would love it, thanks! I've seen other interesting stuff from those conferences but not this one.

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Re: Basic question new
      #356805 - 03/19/10 06:31 AM
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I still don't really understand why. If you increase it slowly and it's soluble fiber, it should be fine for everyone. I just don't get it. I guess I'll stop trying to figure it out and just accept it? Darn.

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