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Re: Probiotics? new
      #29985 - 12/04/03 07:27 AM
Corinne

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I'm taking Primal Defense which has several different probiotics. They are sealed as well so they are alive. I have found them VERY useful though expensive at first. I've only been on it a month and have noticed a vast improvement. Good luck.

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Re: Shanna... Question about the brand I bought... new
      #30018 - 12/04/03 11:08 AM
PooBear

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I too have been thinking of taking Jarro-Dophilus EPS. You can find it online at Provitaminas. I actually called Jarrow, the company that makes it, and they recommended I purchase it there as they have the "best" prices and free shipping with an order over $30. If you look in their monthly specials you will find a 4 box set for $39.99.

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Calling Miss Probiotics new
      #30020 - 12/04/03 11:48 AM
Snow for Sarala

Reged: 03/12/03
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I am wondering if you wouldn't mind listing the ingredients in your probiotic. I, like Corinne, am taking Primal Defense...and I'm curious as to the differences between the two. Are there any other herbs/minerals/vitmains you recommend? I am thinking about taking Bayberry for my sinusitis, in addiion to Echinacea and Goldenseal. Have you ever tried this?

Thanks Shanna!!

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Good Information here new
      #30028 - 12/04/03 11:58 AM
tnchawk

Reged: 04/02/03
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Ok...I found this lengthy, but very informative. article about probiotics. I use their brand and am very satisfied. I am sure that there are comparable brands out there as well. Just pay attention to what else is in them!

Christianne



Probiotics . . .
A Common Sense Discussion

Overview
Probiotics are most simply defined as naturally occurring health-enhancing microorganisms consumed as a food component or dietary supplement. Other common terms for probiotics are "friendly" or "healthy" bacteria.

For centuries people have unknowingly consumed probiotics as a natural component of their food supply. Fermented milks have historically been the most common foods containing probiotics. However it was not until 1908, when Elie Metchnikoff published his book entitled "The Elongation of Life" that health benefits were first attributed to the consumption of milk fermented with specific types of bacteria.

The human digestive tract is a delicate balance between beneficial and potentially pathogenic microorganisms. Under conditions, such as stress, traveling and use of antibiotics and birth control pills, this natural balance is disrupted and the number of pathogens increase while the number of beneficial organisms decrease, resulting in gut abnormalities.

Bacteria promoted as probiotics should have an established history of safe use and documentation of efficacy. They should be normal inhabitants of the human body. Delivery in an effective dose, with viability guaranteed through shelf life under recommended storage conditions, is critical. A minimum dose of billions of probiotic bacteria per day is generally regarded as necessary to observe health benefits. Storage under refrigerated conditions is recommended to assure viability.


How Do Probiotics Work?
To understand how probiotics work, it is important to know a little about the microbiology of the human body. Humans, like animals, are highly colonized by microbes. Microbes live on our skin, in our mouths, in women's vaginal tract and throughout our gastrointestinal (GI) tract (Fig. 1). It is estimated that there are 1014 microbes associated with our bodies. This is 10 times greater than the total number of cells our bodies contain.



Since probiotics are consumed as food and dietary supplements, it is also helpful to review some basic information of the human digestive system. The digestive process begins as soon as food enters the mouth. The process of chewing increases the surface area of food particles, making the food more susceptible to the digestive enzymes, including those in saliva. Smaller food particles also travel more easily (and therefore more quickly) throughout the GI tract. In the stomach food is mixed with gastric juices, containing digestive enzymes and hydrochloric acid. This mixture, known as chyme, is then actively pumped out of the stomach and into the small intestine. There, more enzymes and bile are mixed with chyme, and the breakdown of dietary proteins, fats and carbohydrates is completed.

Most nutrients are absorbed in the small intestine. Within about 4 to 6 hours of eating, what is left of the food passes into the large intestine, or colon. Waste material accumulates, water and electrolytes are absorbed and fecal matter is stored until it passes out through the rectum every 24-48 hours.

Various studies have shown that healthy bacteria may improve our well-being via:

o Manufacture and assimilation of B vitamins.

o Enhancement of dairy product digestion.

o Reduction of serum cholesterol levels.

o Improvement in digestive and bowel functions.

o Stimulation of the immune system.

o Exclusion of harmful microbes associated with diarrhea, yeast infections, urinary tract infections and small bowel bacterial overgrowth.

o Reduction of fecal enzyme activities postulated to play a role in colon cancer.

o Reduction of antibiotic side effects.

o Reduction of lactose intolerance.

o Binding of mutagens by cell wall components (in vitro).



Gastrointestinal Tract (Fig. 1)
Microbes are not very prevalent in the stomach or upper small intestine. The high acid and bile concentrations coupled with the rapid transit time of contents is not favorable to microbial growth. However, toward the lower small intestine, microbes begin to attain higher populations (106-108/ gram of small intestine contents) and in the colon they constitute about 1011-1012/ gram of colon contents. This is a huge number of microbes.

Considering the multitude of microbes in the intestinal tract, what are the effects of their presence? It is known that microbes in the large intestine complete the digestion process on any food components that were not digested in the small intestine, such as lactose in lactose intolerant people or soluble fibers which are resistant to enzymes present in the small intestine. But there is evidence of non-digestive microbial activity as well.

Certain intestinal microbes are known to produce vitamins. Also, in studies done with special microbe-free laboratory animals, evidence is strong that without normal microbial populations, the immune system functions poorly, and resistance to pathogenic bacteria is greatly reduced. Other evidence suggests that intestinal microbes might act on mutagenic compounds. Depending on the specific microbe, mutagenic activity can be either increased or decreased.


Health Effects of Probiotics
Using probiotic cultures to promote health has an inherent advantage in that it is a natural approach...

There are hundreds of papers published on many health benefits of probiotic cultures. Described in these publications are in vitro studies, studies in animal models and human clinical studies, all designed to determine how probiotic cultures may influence a variety of health conditions. Of course, these are very complicated questions, and research is still actively being conducted to further define the role of probiotics in human health. But what can be said is that an evaluation of the body of research done on probiotic cultures suggests that certain strains consumed at high levels positively influence human health. Food sources of probiotics, like milk and yogurt can be healthy additions, but due to intolerances and lower culture levels, supplemention becomes a more viable option.

Using probiotic cultures to promote health has an inherent advantage in that it is a natural approach which does not disturb the normal colonizing flora of the human body.

Perhaps the most compelling use of probiotic cultures is to decrease the degree of disturbance of the normal intestinal microflora which comes with antibiotic use. The purpose of antibiotics is to kill harmful bacteria. Unfortunately, they kill normal bacteria also. Instead of wiping out bacteria, probiotics promote the growth of friendly flora, which in turn fight disease and infectious-causing bacteria. The following describes some of the further proposed health benefits of consumption of probiotic cultures.


Immune System Stimulation
The immune system provides an important defense against microbial pathogens which have entered our bodies. The immune system is extremely complex, involving both cell-based and antibody-based responses to potential infectious agents. Immunodeficiency can result from certain diseases (e.g., cancer, AIDS, leukemia) or to a lesser extent from more normal conditions such as old age, pregnancy, or stress. Autoimmune diseases (e.g., allergies, rheumatoid arthritis) can also occur due to misdirected immune system activity.


How are our Gut and Immune System Related?
The gastrointestinal tract is the primary interface between us and our outside environment. The total mucosal surface area of the adult GI tract is about 300 square meters, and is by far the largest body area exposed to "foreign" substances like pathogens, harmless bacteria and food.

The gut-associated lymphoid tissue (GALT) makes the GI tract our largest immune organ.

It is through this mechanism that probiotics are thought to influence the immune response. Probiotic cultures have been shown in a variety of test systems to stimulate certain cellular and antibody functions of the immune system. Animal and some human studies have shown an effect of yogurt or probiotic bacteria on enhancing levels of certain immunoreactive cells (e.g. macrophages, lymphocytes) or factors (e.g. immunoglobulins, interferon). In addition, some studies have shown improved survival of pathogen-infected laboratory animals consuming probiotic cultures as compared to animals consuming a control diet. Results accumulated so far suggest that when ingested, probiotics organisms are exposed to the mucosal layer of the GI tract, providing an additional tool to help your body protect itself.


Hypertension
About 50-60 million people in United States are estimated to have hypertension, or elevated blood pressure. Evidence suggests that some decrease in blood pressure may result from consumption of certain lactobacilli. Some studies done with hypertensive rats have shown a positive effect. Studies with human subjects are limited. However, one study conducted with subjects with hypertension showed a decrease of 10-20 mm Hg in systolic pressure. Attempts to isolate the component causing the antihypertensive effect have suggested that in at least one case it is due to a part of the bacterial cell wall. This implies that the cells need not be alive to mediate this effect. Other research demonstrated that a compound produced when probiotic bacteria were grown caused an antihypertensive effect. These results suggest that consumption of certain lactobacilli, or products made from them, may reduce blood pressure in hypertensive subjects, providing patients another tool in managing elevated blood pressure.


Vaginitis
The vagina and its microflora form a finely balanced ecosystem. Disruption of this ecosystem can lead to a microbiological imbalance and symptoms of vaginitis. Vaginitis used to be considered a mere annoyance, but now is being examined for a role in serious conditions including pelvic inflammatory disease, pregnancy related complications (e.g. low birth weight babies), and increased susceptibility to AIDS infection. Vaginitis can be caused by several different organisms, and in many cases, the causative agent may not be identified. What is known is that lactobacilli predominate in the healthy vagina, and a lack of lactobacilli (especially those producing hydrogen peroxide) is correlated with vaginitis. The lactobacilli are thought to maintain a favorable, vaginal pH in the acidic range and to inhibit pathogens via the production of hydrogen peroxide. Intravaginal applications of lactobacilli have been somewhat effective in treating bacterial vaginitis. One study done with 13 women showed that consumption of Lactobacillus acidophilus decreased the incidence of Candida yeast infections. Research suggests that lactobacilli may be helpful in controlling the incidence and duration of vaginal infections.


Diarrhea
Many types of diarrheal illnesses, with many different causes, exist. These can result in a bacterial imbalance, leading to diarrhea. Replenishing the flora with normal bacteria during and after antibiotic use can improve the microbial balance until the normal flora is reestablished. Probiotics have also been tested for effectiveness against Clostridium difficile colitis. In general, the results suggest that consumption of high levels of a quality probiotic may shorten the duration or decrease the incidence of certain diarrheal illnesses.


Small Bowel Bacterial Overgrowth
Under certain conditions, such as production of low stomach acid or in patients with kidney disease, microbial populations in the small intestine can increase significantly beyond normal levels. This is termed small bowel bacterial overgrowth. The high population of these microbes can produce by-products from their growth which can be toxic. Researchers have found that feeding high levels of Lactobacillus acidophilus can control the toxic effects of these microbes. This is another example of the ability of probiotic strains fed in high numbers to modulate the activity of other intestinal bacteria.


Lactose Intolerance
The inability of adults to digest lactose, or milk sugar, is prevalent worldwide. People of northern European descent are unique in retaining the ability to produce the lactose digesting enzyme, lactase, into adulthood. Consumption of lactose by those lacking adequate levels of lactase can result in symptoms of diarrhea, bloating, and flatulence. These symptoms are due to the undigested lactose reaching the large intestine and being fermented by the colonic microbes. These microbes can produce gases and products which lead to watery stool.

The approach to coping with lactose digestion problems can be multifaceted, including moderating intake of dairy products, ingesting lactase prior to eating dairy products, and consumption of products containing pre-digested lactose. Many consumers have also noticed that they are better able to consume fermented dairy products, such as yogurt, with fewer symptoms than the same amount of unfermented milk, even though yogurt contains about the same amount of lactose as milk. Yogurt was found to aid digestion of lactose because the lactic acid bacteria used to make yogurt produce lactase and digest the lactose before it reaches the colon. In addition to yogurt starter bacteria, Lactobacillus acidophilus and bifidobacteria have been shown to improve digestion of lactose.


Elevated Blood Cholesterol
Cholesterol is essential for many functions in the human body. It acts as a precursor to certain hormones and vitamins and it is a component of cell membranes and nerve cells. However, elevated levels of total blood cholesterol or other blood lipids are considered risk factors for developing coronary heart disease. Although humans synthesize cholesterol to maintain minimum levels for biological functioning, diet also is known to play a role in maintenance of serum cholesterol levels, although the extent of influence varies significantly from person to person. Probiotic cultures have been evaluated for their effect on serum cholesterol levels. Although clinical studies on the effect of lowering of cholesterol or low density lipid levels in humans have not been conclusive, there have been human studies which suggest that consumption of probiotic-containing dairy foods in people with elevated blood cholesterol can reduce this level.




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Len & Joe's Probiotic Factors of stability

By nature of these cultures, the choices of strains and carriers, manufacturing procedures, handling of materials and storage are all critical to the viability of the end product. Len & Joe start by using culture strains that have the most recognized history of beneficial use - Lactobacillus and Bifidobacterium. They can not justify the use of less potent strains, and certainly not use those which, although retaining activity, are not beneficial to human gut terrain, like Faecium.

They have incorporated a proprietary process of stabilization to protect the culture cell walls. They then chose to use a patented Microcrystalline Cellulose carrier to make the effects of moisture as negligible as possible on our culture.

Ask us for copies of Len & Joe's stability study in which they compared the properties of five different carriers. It is interesting to see how the life expectancy of the same cultures can vary with different carriers. This effect was consistent over different temperature ranges as well.

They require controlled environments in the production of raw materials and encapsulation, ensuring that the active culture levels will remain viable. This control is not only to safe guard against moisture levels, but temperature as well. "The cooler the better" is still the rule. There has been a lot written about new technologies that allow products to retail their activity at room temperature. While there might be evidence to support further research in this technology, the end result is not a reality today. Even if there were a wrap an impenetrable shield around these cultures, making it impossible for moisture to affect them in any way, they would still be damaged by the heat of sitting on a shelf.

One other manufacturing decision was to guarantee label claim. While other companies publish C.F.U. numbers on their labels that relate to the amount of culture at time of manufacturing, the label claim of 20 Billion C.F.U./ gram for Len & Joe's ProBiotic Support is what our customers should expect to see through the life of the product. Their raw material is produced as high as 40 Billion C.F.U./ gram to allow for natural degradation. With choice of strains, carrier, bottle type, stability testing and proper handling, they have gone a long way to ensured that at the time of last dosage, their product should still beat label claim.


Conclusion
The benefits of probiotic cultures are vast. Potential applications range from helping treat acute intestinal infections to contributing, over the longer term, to improved health and reduced risk of disease. To receive maximum benefit from probiotics, careful attention should be given to strain safety, stability, potency, purity and efficacy.




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Re: Calling Miss Probiotics new
      #30033 - 12/04/03 12:27 PM
Corinne

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Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

Hey Ruchie,

You've decided to give the Primal Defense another try then? Good for you! Let me know how it's going. So far so good with me. I'm about 6 weeks into the recommended 6 months. But I'm happy and out and about a whole lot more. Good luck.

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Re: Calling Miss Probiotics new
      #30034 - 12/04/03 12:29 PM
Snow for Sarala

Reged: 03/12/03
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Hi Corinne!

Wow, you have an excellent memory!

Yes, I am giving it another try. I have a yeast ifection that won't go away and so I'm treating it naturally this time. I'll let you know how it goes!

It sounds like things are going great with you--I'm glad to hear the probiotics are helping and that you're able to live life to the fullest!

Take care!

*hugs*

Ruchie

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Acacia is only here... new
      #30056 - 12/04/03 02:41 PM
HeatherAdministrator

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Loc: Seattle, WA

on the website - here's the page Organic Acacia Tummy Fiber

I'm trying to get it into health food stores, but that's a big project and will take a while.

Best,
Heather

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Jaro-Dophilus EPS new
      #30063 - 12/04/03 03:50 PM
Shanna

Reged: 11/15/03
Posts: 471
Loc: Atlanta, GA, USA

The cool thing about it is that you don't open a whole bottle, but each tablet individually... so it lasts longer.

I buy mine at Whole Foods or Central Market for around 13 to 14 dollars for a box.

This is just the brand I have found to be the best for me after much experimentation (and money). However, it you like another, and it works, that's great!

I haven't heard of Natol... but, again, if it works for you and it is effective througout its life, then your set.

Best!
Shanna

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Jaro ingredients new
      #30064 - 12/04/03 03:57 PM
Shanna

Reged: 11/15/03
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hehe. you're funny! miss probiotics is here... unfortunately, not to the rescue... I have never tried Bayberry, Echinacea, or Goldenseal... I only take acidophilus/bifidus/other active cultures in order to poop! It is strange how much control some natural flora can have over my ability to have healthy bowel movements...

N E Who, here are the ingredients in my probiotic, Jaro-Dophilus EPS:

active cultures plus potato starch, magnesium stearate, and ascorbic acid. SEE: www.jarrow.com

best! hope your sinuses are doing better.... ) hugs!

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Do you think the magnesium is having an effect? new
      #30066 - 12/04/03 04:01 PM
HeatherAdministrator

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Mag is a laxative - do you know how much is in the probiotics? It may just be a trace amount as a binder, but if it's more than that it might trigger diarrhea for some folks. Have you seen that added to other probiotics?

- H

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