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I miss pooping. :o(
      #28287 - 11/21/03 12:45 PM
Shanna

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No doubt, pooping is a favorite pasttime of mine. It borders on orgasmic! This is probably because I have been deprived of it for so long... haha.

I have been sticking to my diet, but I have been getting more and more constipated with each day. I think I may be a little impacted or something. What can I do to get everything flowing again? Maybe some Milk of Magnesia? I am doing everything else right... there is really now explanation for my current attack... Thanks, guys.

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Re: I miss pooping. :o( new
      #28298 - 11/21/03 01:46 PM
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Oh sweetie, I feel for you, I am also IBS C. Be sure you have incorporated enough insoluble fiber into your diet and that you are drinking a ton of water, very hard to do when you feel full of poop! I find for more immediaite relief a glycerin suppository works wonders! It took me a while to work up the nerve to actually use one but its not that bad and I uaually go with 10 minutes!! They are not as addictive as oral laxatives and don't cause as much cramping either. If you just use them once in a while my DR said they were fine! Feel better soon!

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Re: I miss pooping. :o( new
      #28299 - 11/21/03 01:48 PM
Shanna

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what type of supository is that? where can i buy it? is there a brand name you use? thanks! s

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Re: I miss pooping. :o( new
      #28300 - 11/21/03 02:05 PM
shawneric

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Shanna, have you ever had a sitz marker test done?

"Measuring Colonic Transit Time

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Are there any other means of identifying slow transit time than use of radiopaque markers?


Stam Tsoris, MD


Response from Yehuda Ringel, MD
Assistant Professor of Medicine, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill; Staff Physician, Department of Medicine, University of North Carolina Hospital, Chapel Hill





Measuring colonic transit time is useful in evaluating patients with constipation, abdominal bloating, and refractory irritable bowel syndrome. It provides quantitative information about colonic transit, enables the identification and characterization of transit abnormalities, and allows assessment of the severity of the problem as well as the response to therapy.

Colonic transit time has been traditionally measured using radiopaque markers. The technique is simple and inexpensive and can be performed in any radiology department. Radiopaque markers may simply be cut from radiopaque tubes (eg, Levin tubes) or obtained commercially. Several methods have been suggested, including the single-marker bolus technique (ingestion of markers on a specific day followed by several x-rays until all markers are passed) or multiple-marker bolus technique (ingestion of markers each day for several days followed by a limited number or a single abdominal x-ray). Overall, radiopaque markers have been widely used to measure colonic transit. This technique provides valuable clinical information and has been proven to be reliable and reproducible. However, this test has a relatively long duration (5-7 days) and requires the patient to abstain from laxatives, enemas, and other medications known to affect gastrointestinal motility. These drawbacks have led to a desire to develop alternatives to this study.

Colonic scintigraphy can be used as an alternative to the radiopaque marker technique for measuring colonic transit time. This test involves administration of radioactive isotope and following its progression through the gastrointestinal tract with a large-field-view gamma camera. The test uses long half-life radionuclides indium 111-diethylenetriamine pentaacetic acid (111In-DTPA) or iodine 131.[1-3] A shorter half-life isotope, technetium 99m, can be added to measure gastric and small bowel transit. Several methods have been used to deliver the isotopes to the large intestine. These include using activated charcoal or a pH-sensitive methacrylate-coated capsule that dissolves and releases the isotope at alkaline pH in the distal ileum[4] or simply dissolving the isotope (111In-DTPA) in water. Overall, scintigraphy has been shown to be a reliable alternative for accurate quantitative measurement of colonic transit time. This technique may also provide additional information on segmental colonic transit. However, despite attempts to simplify the techniques and make them more applicable for clinical use, measurement of colonic transit time by scintigraphy is not yet widely available in clinical laboratories.

Posted 11/07/2003"

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/463895



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Is exercise an option? new
      #28308 - 11/21/03 02:25 PM
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Just taking a really brisk walk around the block is often enough to get the bowel muscles stimulated. And drinking water of course - but you already know that.

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Re: I miss pooping. :o( new
      #28314 - 11/21/03 02:44 PM
Shanna

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yes... apparantly i have a very slow transit time, and in addition sometimes my colon just shuts down.

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Re: Is exercise an option? new
      #28316 - 11/21/03 02:45 PM
Shanna

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Heather... I have been doing those things. Thanks for the tip, though!

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Re: Is exercise an option? new
      #28331 - 11/21/03 07:16 PM
sherr1

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Shanna, how about a hot/warm bath? I know it's used to relax the tummy, but it might help you go. I do this for my kids when they have a hard time going. Maybe a little cranberry juice? Hope you get some relief.

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wheat and yogurt? new
      #28335 - 11/21/03 07:43 PM
Shanna

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thanks -- i will give it a try. THIS IS SO WEIRD... maybe I am developing an intolerance to wheat and yogurt? they are the only things in my diet that IBS sufferers usually don't eat. i used to be able to tolerate them, but maybe not anymore.

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Re: Is exercise an option? new
      #28341 - 11/21/03 08:52 PM
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Heather, with all due respect, I don't think you understand this type of constipation. I walk 3 miles every day, drink more water than a camel (to quote my husband), yet I still suffer. I won't even go into my diet which does not contain any junk food, and does contain a lot of soluble fiber.


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Re: Is exercise an option? new
      #28342 - 11/21/03 08:54 PM
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I also sit in a hot bath, in fact we just put in a theraputic jacuzzi type tub, and I do that every day... something else is going on, where not even exercise, water, and soluble fibre helps.

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Re: wheat and yogurt? new
      #28343 - 11/21/03 08:59 PM
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You sound like my twin! It's spooky . I also developed a problem with dairy and wheat this year. Just out of the blues. I'm now on a wheat free/gluten diet (put myself on it), and this helps with the bloating to some extent. Try eliminating wheat or dairy and see what happens if you're bloating and gassy. There are lots of nice things you could make to replace breads (Arrowhead Mills) have some nice mixes with rice flour (I use the brown rice as the white rice causes even more constipation).

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Re: Is exercise an option? new
      #28345 - 11/21/03 09:04 PM
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You know I know water is great for us and we should consume at least 8 glasses a day, but it can also cause constipation in some people. (Don't stop drinking water) Maybe adding things in fruit category that you can tolerate.
Cranberry drink from Heather's book, you get the water and some juice all in one. Certain stretches can help constipation. Try some of the yoga board positions. I know Iif I don't go for more than 2 days I feel yucky, soo I add a little more insoluble food to my diet carefully and I seem to get going again. I'm D prone, but right now stable. So I watch my fluid intake and insoluble intake very carefully.
Hope you get going again soon...

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Re: wheat and yogurt? new
      #28350 - 11/21/03 10:33 PM
Shanna

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i will give it a try -- something has to give. thanks chicarita.

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Seperated at Birth! new
      #28351 - 11/21/03 10:35 PM
Shanna

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WOW, YOU ARE MY TWIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you find that stress and schedule changes are a major factor in your constipation? What is the longest you have gone w/ no bowel mov't? I have gone into the months before... back in the old days.

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Re: Is exercise an option? new
      #28352 - 11/21/03 10:36 PM
Shanna

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I have found that hot tea first thing in the a.m. helps. I have "pooping time" on the weekends. I drink tea for hours and have a light breakfast... really clears me out. lol.

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Re: Is exercise an option? new
      #28361 - 11/21/03 11:22 PM
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I take 2 Colace a day, works for me! It's non-habit forming since it's not a laxative, it's a stool softener. The days I don't take it are the days I don't go

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Re: Seperated at Birth! new
      #28367 - 11/22/03 06:59 AM
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I've gone like two weeks, sometimes into three and ended up in hospital several times with a blockage. Hey, if you want, you can write me at looktrouble@yahoo.com and we can share tips and stories

Stress doesn't make that much of a difference. My colon just does whatever it wants, even when I'm on vacation and relaxed near a beach! Sometimes I just want to ask them to take it out and be done with it...

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Re: Is exercise an option? new
      #28368 - 11/22/03 07:02 AM
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You're so funny with this 'pooping time' thing. I'm having hot tea right now. I see you're in Austin. I stayed there a couple of hours on my way to Mexico, and loved the city.

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Re: Is exercise an option? new
      #28370 - 11/22/03 07:06 AM
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Water can cause constipation??? Are you serious? I am always sort of dehydrated and must carry water with me everywhere I go... I drink more than the 8 glasses a day, more like 24! I'm always thirsty (not diabetic). I eat lots of fruits and you're right, insoluble would make me go, but supposedly that's what causes the bloating and gas... I can't eat whole wheat products anymore, or anthing like raisin bran. I do yoga as well. I'm telling you, if I could take my colon out on my own, I would!!! :-)

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Re: Is exercise an option? new
      #28371 - 11/22/03 07:09 AM
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I used to take Coalace 3 times a day, but then it quit working so I'm off it now. It seems that my bowel becomes accustomed to certain things and then stops working. for example I would take metamucil 3-4/day and it would work, then suddenly it would just quit! I switched to Citrucel and it seemed like a miracle thing, then it stopped. So I'm forever changing things around to 'fool' my bowel. Sort of a cat and mouse thing :-).

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Re: Is exercise an option? new
      #28375 - 11/22/03 07:53 AM
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I am always thirsty to, and also eat a good amount of fiber.... Maybe we are eating TOO many fruits and veggies and drinking TOO much water? I don't know.... we are both pretty much in the same boat. There could be something small in our diets causing this reaction, or it could be some sort of seritonin, hormonal, or motility thing that just gets out of hand sometimes... we just have to live with it as best as we can. I feel for you!!!

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Two hour pooping window from when I wake up... new
      #28376 - 11/22/03 07:56 AM
Shanna

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hehe. yeah, i tell my friends, "call me in a couple of hours, it's my pooping window!"

I love austin... it is a beautiful city with much to do and is very health concious -- the health food stores put each other out of business here, there are so many, haha. Everyone here is IBS, vegan, vegitarian, keeps kosher, or something... )

Speaking of pooping time, I am drinking some tea that is supposed to help your digestion as we speak (fennel, peppermint, ginger, chamomile...)... time for another glass. Today I am going to try to poop until 11; then I have a baby shower to go to! haha

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Heather -- Colace new
      #28377 - 11/22/03 07:58 AM
Shanna

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Is it safe for long-term use? Thanks!

Fishnets -- thanks for the tip. Hasn't worked for me in the past, but who knows....

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Re: Is exercise an option? new
      #28378 - 11/22/03 07:59 AM
Shanna

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Me, too.... however, I just stick with citrucel and my supplements now, because eventually they will start working again. Go out and buy some refrigerated primadolphilus bifidus and take it before bedtime and after breakfast... it might really help you. ) Active cultures are the only reason I poop... everything else seems to be the reason I don't...

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Pooping time! new
      #28386 - 11/22/03 08:48 AM
Kree

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Lol Shanna, I have the whole "pooping time" thing down, too! My bowels seem to work best between 9:30 and 11 am, so I love days when I'm able to wake up, have a hot mug of peppermint tea (or coffee, when I feel like being bad ), and just let things work. Ahh. But I also get into slumps when I just can't seem to get rid of my constipation, so I really feel for you. I don't know what advice to offer that you haven't already been given, but good luck! I hope you start pooping again soon!

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Re: Heather -- Colace new
      #28396 - 11/22/03 10:47 AM
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Quote:

Is it safe for long-term use? Thanks!

Fishnets -- thanks for the tip. Hasn't worked for me in the past, but who knows....



I find it works better if I take it everyday. If I take it just once, it doesn't seem to really work. Kind of like fiber, but I have no idea why since it isn't fiber.

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Re: I miss pooping. :o( new
      #28397 - 11/22/03 10:49 AM
shawneric

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Shanna, a leading expert in contispation is William E. Whitehead, PhD at the UNC Center for Functional GI and Motility disorders.

You might send him and email and see what he may have to say for you.

http://www.med.unc.edu/wrkunits/2depts/medicine/fgidc/whitehed.htm

They also will be doing an online chat soon. Where you can ask Dr Drossman a leading IBS researcher in the world and probably Dr Whitehead who might be there also.

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Re: Is exercise an option? new
      #28442 - 11/22/03 08:22 PM
LillibetM

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Do you buy that in an ordinary grocery store or at the health food store? We have a Wild Oats out here...

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Re: Is exercise an option? new
      #28443 - 11/22/03 08:27 PM
Shanna

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Any health food store has probiotics. The trick is to try different brands and find the one that works for you... whatever you do (even if they aren't refridgerated), refridgerate them upon opening. I just bought Jaro-Dophilus EPS... I will let you know how it works out! You can also order it on the web, I think....

Also, GNC sells pro-biotics, and soy and regular yogurt contains them (though not as much as the pills...). We are totally in the same boat right now -- let me know if you find any relief from them. I am rooting for you!!!!!

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Re: I miss pooping. :o( new
      #28444 - 11/22/03 08:37 PM
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shanna try takeing alo vera juice. it taste and looks like water. just dont drink so much of it. just read the directions on container. george washington is on the name of the brand. its in health stores. hope this helps you jasper.

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Re: I miss pooping. :o( new
      #28462 - 11/23/03 06:23 AM
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Have you ever tried magnesium supplements? Being a D gal myself, I stick with calcium supplements, but I've seen the C-ers talking about magnesium. There are past posts on it if you want to do a search.

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Mags, Jasper, other board friends: Thanks! new
      #28468 - 11/23/03 07:31 AM
Shanna

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Thanks for all of your advice! I am doing a lot better... I pooped today for the first time in a week! The Jaro-Dophilus EPS seemed to really help, as did the NOW eneric coated peppermint capsules with fennel, chamomile, and ginger. Both were pretty cheap. )

I knew Magnesium was a natural laxative... I didn't know about Aloe Vera, however! Interesting...

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Congratulations! new
      #28487 - 11/23/03 10:55 AM
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Glad you're feeling better!

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Re: wheat and yogurt? new
      #28526 - 11/23/03 01:44 PM
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Have you been tested for Celiac? Wheat probs are usually not IBS related...there may be something else there. If you want any info. on Celiac, let me know...I'm going down this road myself right now and I'd be happy to help in any way I can!

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Re: wheat and yogurt? new
      #28558 - 11/23/03 05:19 PM
Shanna

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what are the symptoms of celiac? I have constipation and chronic tendonitis in my joints..

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Re: wheat and yogurt? new
      #28603 - 11/23/03 08:54 PM
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I just wanted to say that I love the first topic of this link. I miss poop too! It has been way too long! I am rather ibs and posting on a message board, it has been a year of being misdiagnosed and finding out for myself what was going on. There is so much advise out there that I am a bit confunsed on what to try, but am willing to try it all. As of today I started Heathers diet, drink all the suggested teas, drink aloe, take citricil, exercise daily, and drink plenty of water. Plus I ordered the Acacia fiber. My life is rather low stress, aside from not having regular movements anymore. Is there anything else that one would suggest for a beginner like me too make sure and not forget? I am just glad that I found this site and so hopefully that I can get through this.
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One more thing... new
      #28605 - 11/23/03 10:03 PM
Shanna

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Buy some Jaro-Dophilus EPS at a health food store. Take two in the morning on an empty stomach and two before bed or before dinner--which ever works best for you. Keep refrigerated. They WILL make you poop. )

Also, drinking hot liquids first thing when you get up, and eating a small breakfast after you have downed a couple of glasses of hot tea, = pooping. I love the mornings -- they are my pooping time! I get up an hour early for tea, banana or pumpkin bread, and pooping. ahhha. )

Just make sure you take your probiotics (such as Jaro-Dophilus EPS) without hot liquids... the high temperatures kill the good flora in them. I usually take them w/ metamucil first thing when I wake up, and have my tea about 15 min later. Whatever works for you... hope the tea and probiotics help you... they, along with fiber supp's, are my saving grace!!!!!!! I really like Colon Care fiber capsules, as well... I take them before lunch and dinner.

I also take papaya enzymes after meals to aid in the digestion of food in the stomach... good luck!!!!

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Re: One more thing... new
      #28622 - 11/24/03 03:56 AM
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thanks, I will make sure to get that asap!

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Re: I miss pooping. :o( new
      #28684 - 11/24/03 12:35 PM
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Only able to be online here briefly for now, but will write more later b/c this post is exactly where I'm at in more ways than I can count re: trying to have a complete BM on a daily basis

It just doesn't make sense to me that I can feel so distended w/ "poop" but it won't come out! VERY FRUSTRATING!!

More later, but have one quick ? right now:
Jasper: how much aloe vera juice, how many times per day and do you take it daily?

Thanks, I'll be back later to share in this very useful thread....which will hopefully gather as many ideas as possible that severe C-IBSers have found to be of benefit to get the "poop" out!!! LL

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Sulphur in dried fruits new
      #28690 - 11/24/03 12:55 PM
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One other quick ? for now:
Has anyone ever found that eating some fruit dried w/ sulphur dioxide helped them to have a BM? I know that sulphur is supposed to cause loose stools but since being on H's diet my stools have normalized wonderfully in terms of being soft and formed instead of hard and lumpy.....geesh, this disease sure requires a person to go public about some really "graphic personal details"!
So, my need is not to make my stools softer now but to get them out on a regular basis b/c otherwise the distention, bloating and discomfort ruins my sleep!

I was at Whole Foods a few weeks ago and I was really constipated, distended and uncomfortable so I decided to try eating some dried apricots after eating dinner there. Well.....the next AM I had a wonderful complete clean out and it felt sooooo great!

Since then I've tried some ( 3-4) dried apricots again a few times after dinner and have not had the same results. So I'm now wondering if the apricots were the reason why I had such a great cl/out or was it just a coincidence. Maybe my body was just ready to "DO IT" the next AM regardless of eating the apricots???

All thoughts and opinions are most appreciated. LL

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Re: I miss pooping. :o( new
      #28700 - 11/24/03 01:11 PM
bauie25

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I feel your pain! I seriously feel like I have the worst case of IBS ever! I can totally stick to the diet, and NOTHING works... how frustrating!

Also, you had replied to some post about "getting started," as did I, and I never thought about the dairy in the fat free "I can't believe it's not butter" as a trigger (hmmmm)... I can't seem to digest anything that has fat in it, so are butter and spreads totally out? Dairy really messes me up, so I'm going to stop using that... it might be causing me grief that I'm not linking to it! Also, lots of sugar usually doesn't fair well with me, that's why I use splenda... does splenda typically cause diah. or constip?? If it's the first, that's probably why it doesn't bother me... I typically suffer from the latter (or at least lately...

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Re: One more thing... new
      #28716 - 11/24/03 01:58 PM
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Sorry I didn't write sooner, I was in bed most of the day with sinusitis (again!)

Celiac is an autoimmune disorder...it is often misdiagnosed with IBS. Gluten, a protein found in wheat (it's what holds wheat together and gives it a consistent tecture), can cause many symptoms--constipation, diarrhea, chronic illness, etc.

For more info., check out:

celiac.com

delphiforums.com

csaceliacs.org

CSAceliacs.org has a toll-free # you can call and speak to someone about celiac. They will also mail you free info.

If you want more info, lemme know!

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Re: tea new
      #28723 - 11/24/03 02:08 PM
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I've never noticed tea helping me go. Perhaps I'll start drinking it in the morning and see what happens. I wish I didn't have to take stool softeners to make me go, but it doesn't seem like anything else really works. I'm so sensetive to insoluble fiber that it's hard to get enough to go Grrrr. I'm not a fan of dried fruits but maybe I'll try to start eating raisins everyday. Howcome raisins seem to work for people but no one mentions grapes?

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Re: tea new
      #28725 - 11/24/03 02:10 PM
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Fishnets, you should definitely try tea first thing in the morning! That's one of the only things that keeps me regular, too! It really seems to get me going.

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Re: tea new
      #28726 - 11/24/03 02:12 PM
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Do you find it doesn't help as much if you drink it later in the day? Usually when I have tea it's at night, so maybe that's why it's not working. Oh and when you say tea, are you all talking about fennel tea or just any tea?

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Re: I miss pooping. :o( new
      #28773 - 11/24/03 03:59 PM
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Um just wanted to say thanks for this line of material on pooping. It's so funny but mostly because I can relate to it all. Most IBS people have some kind of pooping window. Or how about the thought "gee I'd just like to go now so I dont have to go later" plan. That never works!!!! ha ha

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Re: One more thing... new
      #28778 - 11/24/03 04:20 PM
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thanks again, could you give me an idea of how long you were taking Jaro-Dophilus EPS prior to seeing any results?
So glad to hear that these things are working for you.

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Goal: To be a pooping machine new
      #28790 - 11/24/03 06:04 PM
Shanna

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I even quit the I can't believe it's not butter spray. I also completely avoid any artificial sweeteners... even small amounts! Both of the above cause severe constipation in my case. I use olive oil spray, just a bit, in place of butter quite often, or soy or rice "butter." *luck*

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interesting info... new
      #28793 - 11/24/03 06:57 PM
Shanna

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-- tea helps me the most when I drink it on an empty stomach and follow up w/ some breakfast a couple of glasses later. also, i poop only between 7 and 9 a.m... it's my pooping window. most ppl's windows are in the morning, where the level of some chemical in your body is the highest... can't remember the name, but it makes you poop. my boyfriend has a degree is exercise/physiology and sports nutrition (master's), a bachelor's in biology, and will be going to med school... he tells me this stuff, and i remember what i can, haha....

-- dried fruits are more dense and compact -- so they have more fiber. dried cranberries, mango, figs, prunes (grrannnddmmmaaa, i know) dates, papaya, and apricots are all very high in fiber, too... )

-- hot liquids stimulate your bowel in general. for example, pregnant women often drink hot prune juice first thing when they wake up -- hot w/ a fiber punch... gross.

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haha -nt- new
      #28794 - 11/24/03 06:58 PM
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thanks... new
      #28795 - 11/24/03 07:01 PM
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really nice of you to think of me. i am not sure exactly what he could do for me, though... ?

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Aloe Vera Juice.... new
      #28796 - 11/24/03 07:02 PM
Shanna

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Do you have severe, chronic constipation? Does this work for you? How much do you recommend taking per day and per dose? Thanks, J!

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Re: Pooping time! new
      #28797 - 11/24/03 07:05 PM
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LOL -- I am glad someone else also treasures their pooping times -- and can empathize with another in a pooping "slump." Do traveling, menstruation, stress, sleep deprivation, and general schedule changes affect your pooping?

Hope you are flowing!
Shanna

P.S. Did you know that bananas are constipating? This upsets me, cause they are yum-O!

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Re: Heather -- Colace new
      #28798 - 11/24/03 07:08 PM
Shanna

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I takes Colace three days to draw water into the stool... thus making the poop easier to pass. I usually take milk of magnesia, because it is cheap, doesn the same thing, and only takes 30 min to 6 hours, and ALWAYS works overnight. It is also non-habit forming, natural, and gentle -- though it shouldn't be taken on a regular basis! Taking any laxative on a regular basis decreases your GI tract/colon's ability to function. Well, hope this helps you fishnets. And let me know if the tea and probiotics (not taken at the same time, of course)help you...

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i took it before bed, pooped the next morning... new
      #28799 - 11/24/03 07:09 PM
Shanna

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just make sure to keep it in the frige...

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Thanks! new
      #28800 - 11/24/03 07:10 PM
Shanna

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I should get tested for this.... when I get back from Spain, I guess.

Feel better soon!!!!!!!

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Re: Pooping time! new
      #28809 - 11/24/03 07:33 PM
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Quote:

Do traveling, menstruation, stress, sleep deprivation, and general schedule changes affect your pooping?



Yes, all of the above! It's very aggravating. I don't know how I'm ever going to stay regular when I get a teaching job. I can just imagine me saying, "Excuse me for a minute, kids, it's my pooping time..."

I had heard that bananas are contipating, but I didn't know if it was true. They're one of my favorite fruits, too! I don't plan to stop eating them.

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Re: Pooping time! new
      #28810 - 11/24/03 07:38 PM
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ha ha ha, kree. i think that's hilarious! teach kindergarten, and plan nap time around pooping time! just kidding! anyway, bananas make me feel really good, too. say it ain't so! I thought that was an old myth, due to the fact that they help with diarrhea. But they're soluble, so they help both D and C, right?

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HAHAHAHA!! new
      #28818 - 11/24/03 07:58 PM
Shanna

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i actually laughed out loud while reading your post! Thanks for making me smile and chuckle!

Just drink a lot of h20 w/ your nanners, and it will probably do the trick...

Good luck w/ explaining to the kiddos about your pooping window. I can see it now...

Mom: "What did you learn today in Ms. Kree's class."
Kiddo: "Today her pooping window was wider than usual. So we got to color!"

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Re: Pooping time! new
      #28819 - 11/24/03 08:00 PM
Shanna

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they are soluble, yes. but they can constipate. lots of water with my nannners usually helps me. i love them, and they are a great source of potassium (as is Spinach, btw). when i cramped up during swimming or running practices in h.s., i would simply start eating a nanner or two a day, and the pain would go away! (hey, that rhymes!)

plus, you just can't beat 39 cents a pound!!!

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Question for Evie new
      #28820 - 11/24/03 08:01 PM
Kree

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I was hoping that's the case with bananas! They never seem to make my C worse, and I eat banana bread a lot!

Evie, does your IBS make it difficult to have your own classroom?? I'm so glad I found someone to ask about this. I don't have D very often, but I do get terrible cramping sometimes, especially when I'm anxious. At times like that I feel miserable if I don't get to a bathroom, and sometimes it's not possible to just dash out of a room full of kids! I substitute taught once, for one day, and thought I was going to explode because I couldn't go to the bathroom until I dropped the kids off at specials. How do you deal with your IBS issues in the classroom?

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Re: HAHAHAHA!! new
      #28821 - 11/24/03 08:03 PM
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Quote:

Good luck w/ explaining to the kiddos about your pooping window. I can see it now...

Mom: "What did you learn today in Ms. Kree's class."
Kiddo: "Today her pooping window was wider than usual. So we got to color!"




ROTFL!

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I eat banana bread everyday -- we should start a club! -nt- new
      #28824 - 11/24/03 08:07 PM
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Re: wheat and yogurt? new
      #28825 - 11/24/03 08:11 PM
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I have an IBS diagnosis from a GI doctor. I have been tested for Celiac's disease and the findings were negative. I went on the the South Beach Diet to lose weight and to try lower glycemic foods. My IBS symptoms have lessened. Does anyone else find that lowering carbs helps their IBS?

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Re: wheat and yogurt? new
      #28827 - 11/24/03 08:23 PM
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well, when i eat more veggies and lean meats i have less room for carbs... though i don't necessarily mean to eat less. i have noticed when i am doing this I poop a lot more.

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Re: Question for Evie new
      #28833 - 11/24/03 09:32 PM
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Oh, I didn't mean to mislead you. I don't have a classroom, but let me see if i can help. I have IBS-C, and that made working at the children's unit of a psychiatric hospital a bit stressful. There was always more than one pair of eyes on those kids, though. Consider having a teacher's aide, that would take a load off! I remember having those in elementary school. I guess we're a little off topic from the IBS diet, but is that the setting you're hoping to teach in?

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Re: Aloe Vera Juice.... new
      #28838 - 11/24/03 10:25 PM
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shanna the alovera works great for constipation. just dont take so much of it at a time. i usally take only once or twice of week. it can cause loose stools sometimes. thats why drink a litle bit of it. hope this helps you jasper.

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Re: Mags, Jasper, other board friends: Thanks! new
      #28854 - 11/25/03 03:42 AM
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Where do I go to get the NOW eneric coated peppermint capsules. I saw Heather mention them in her newsletter
and I wanted some but don't know what to look for
or where. Do they have a brand name? Do I get them
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Re: Mags, Jasper, other board friends: Thanks! new
      #28875 - 11/25/03 07:40 AM
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I don't know about the NOW brand, but you can buy Heather's entric coated peppermint caps online!

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Re: Question for Evie new
      #28876 - 11/25/03 07:45 AM
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Thanks for answering, evie! Yes, that is the setting I'm hoping to teach in. You're right, if I'm lucky I'll end up with a teacher's aide, and that would make things a lot easier! Most classrooms do have an aide for at least part of the day, especially inclusion classes. And hopefully once I get into the swing of teaching it won't be as stressful and won't bother my IBS as much! I just have to go with the flow.

I can imagine working in a hospital setting would be very stressful! I'm glad you're able to do it. I guess anything is possible when we put our minds to it, even with the annoyance of having to deal with IBS!

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Re: interesting info... new
      #28877 - 11/25/03 07:46 AM
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Shanna, keep those hints coming PLEASE

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Re: interesting info... new
      #28881 - 11/25/03 08:27 AM
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One of the chemicals is cortisol. Just fyi



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The mysterious peppermint capsules new
      #28886 - 11/25/03 08:37 AM
Shanna

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NOW is the brand... I buy them at Whole Foods. Luck!

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Thanks! new
      #28888 - 11/25/03 08:38 AM
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You are such a wealth of knowlege. I am so happy that you are on the boards!!!!! Have you ever considered being a medical researcher or doctor? You would be great! You seem to have the interest, dedication, and people skills

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      #28889 - 11/25/03 08:40 AM
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I am going to buy it today and let you guys know what happens..

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Perk! new
      #28939 - 11/25/03 12:20 PM
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Here's my advice - if you're worried about an oncoming attack, then it's sure to happen, 'cause your worry urges it on, but if you don't, then at least you stand a chance! So, right on - don't worry. You'll have a great time teaching. And the perk? Free juice and fruit! That was my saving grace sometimes at the hospital.

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Start slow and carefully with the aloe... new
      #28944 - 11/25/03 01:00 PM
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it can trigger cramps and diarrhea in some folks. Don't want you to swing from one extreme to the other.

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Thanks... I will be careful, definitely. -nt- new
      #28990 - 11/25/03 03:49 PM
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tea new
      #29001 - 11/25/03 05:18 PM
Shanna

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first thing in the a.m., at least 2 mugs of it, on an empty tummy. chai, ginger, fennel, chamomile, or peppermint are all good choices in the GI sense... mazel!

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Shanna: how can you live with not going for a whole week? I'd be crazed from sleep deprivation! new
      #29547 - 12/01/03 10:39 AM
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Shanna and other severe C-IBSers:
Doesn't being constipated more than one day ruin your sleep? It sure does mine! If I'm constipated more than one day I have constant discomfort all day but then at night it becomes much worse- really terrible sometimes- and it either prevents me from being able to sleep soundly, and thus restfully, thruout the night. Then, since I haven't slept well, my bowels work much less well the next AM.

HOW do you sleep soundly when you're constipated for a week or more???? I can't use any sleep medications-they all make my constipation much worse. This makes sense to me b/c all sleep meds slow down the nervous system. So it's logical that they would slow down the nervous system's activity in the gut too.

As far as herbs, valerian is a no-no b/c one of it's side-effects is that it can cause constipation, which it does in me. The other herbs, like chamomile, hops etc do NOTHING to help me sleep when I'm constipated b/c the constipation discomfort is too great, so it overrides any relaxation effect that they provide.

BTW, colace, MOM and glycerin or dulcolax suppositories do nothing to help me get cleaned out, they all just make my poop mushy, but it STILL won't come out. However, I do think that taking magnesium helps me- 400 mg/day to offset the 1000mg/day of calcium that I have to take. I have premature osteoporosis b/c I had to stop eating all dairy in childhood due to my C-IBS. Beware of this bone disease complication from having IBS,even though you are only in your 20s. Be sure to get as much calcium in your diet as possible from foods other than dairy, so that you can avoid having to take calcium supplements, b/c they are definitely constipating! grrrrr

What has helped me the MOST after years of struggling, suffering and searching is H's diet. It has made a BIG diff in keeping my stools softly formed. HOWEVER, I do have to make sure to eat as much "cushioned" insoluble fiber every day as possible to keep things moving and coming out.

I came up with he word "cushioned" to help my friends understand what my colon needs b/c the concept of soluble and insoluble fiber is just too much to try to explain to everyone. However, I do want my friends to understand why I'm sooooo committed to H's diet whenever and whatever I eat. I know some of them still don''t really get it and think I've become a bit of a nut but I DON'T CARE. Hey, they're my friends, they've seen me suffering w/ this yukky problem for more than 25 years- since childhood like Heather- so they're just happy for me that the diet is working. PLUS I'm alot less nuttier than many people out here in crazy SF, even with IBS! lol

Lastly, taking Zelnorm 6 mg twice a day is what has helped me to get the poop out every day in combo with always getting up every day at 5-5:30 b/c my "window of opportunity is from 5-6:30. "Isn't that special"!! I hate having to get up this early every day- sure ruins my social life having to be in bed every night by 9:30- but I've finally accepted that this is the ONLY time I can poop, even with using Zelnorm. The Chief of Gastroenterology is my MD and about a year ago he told me that I'm the worst case of C-IBS he's ever seen- said I have a "dead colon". I recently told him - very nicely of course; didn't want to take out my longterm frustration on him when I know he was just trying to be empathetic- that it didn't help my head or gut AT ALL when he told me this and it definitely made me feel depressed for several months. Thank God for H's diet and Zelnorm, at least I'm no longer having to do enemas every other day. That was a BIG bummer but I was the only thing that helped me to be able to sleep, so that I could keep working each day without being a zombie.

Anyway, back to the subject. I still have problems with becoming constipated about once a week and I have NO idea why but when it happens I don't sleep well and then I have to do an enema again, which I hate doing! SO, any suggestions about how to decrease the discomfort at night so that I can sleep better on these bad nights would be great. I've got my fingers and toes crossed.
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Re: Shanna: how can you live with not going for a whole week? I'd be crazed from sleep deprivation! new
      #29549 - 12/01/03 10:57 AM
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I've never gone a week, so I can't imagine your pain (3-4days Is the max for me!) i also have d and can't take Zelnorm. I'm glad it works for you!!!!!! Have you tried Benefiber???? That's my best suggestion for you-but I will always be indebted to Heather for the diet!!! Keep trying and I'll be around to help hold you up! Maryh

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Txs Maryh, I'm up to 9 -10 gms of a combo of citrucel and benefiber per day. new
      #29560 - 12/01/03 12:22 PM
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It's taken me the past 4 months-since first starting on H's diet- to work up to this much soluble fiber b/c I kept worrying that it would make my constipation worse. However, it's done the exact opposite, just helped me to have softer and better formed poop, altho must now drink even more water than I used to per day - I"m up to about 12 16 oz bottles per day! You'd think I'd be sick of water but fortuately I'm not, it's my fav "food".

Only problem is that now I'm ALWAYS distended, even if I'm well cleaned out and have no gas-have gotten that under complete control w/ fennel tea, beano and US phayzme and exercise . I believe that the distention must be due to the soluble fiber. Oh well, I can live peacefully w/ distention, just wear loose pants. Wish they made elastic waist jeans! LOL

BTW, forgot to mention in 1st post that exercising makes NO diff, as far as I can tell, to help me poop each day or to help me sleep if I'm constipated. I exercise 3 days a week for 2 hours of aerobics and wt lifting, plus on the other 4 days I do an hour a day of rowing. Regardless of all this activity, if I'm constipated I STILL don't sleep well and I STILL have to do an enema the next day.

Geesh, I wish they'd invent a drug that reduced the pain/ discomfort sensitivity communication between the gut and the brain ie: reduced the brain/gut signaling that's hyperactive in IBSers. I'm sure this is why I don't sleep well, my brain gut connection is too hyper. It's weird b/c I'm not a person hyper at all, unless I'm tired and then I can feel myself gradually becoming hyper thru the day in order to keep pushing myself to get my work done.

This is one of the MANY reasons why it's so hard to explain this disorder to my friends-even the ones who work w/ me in healthcare!- b/c they all say that I'm such a calm person. I appreciate the compliment, considering there are so many spaced-out, "mellow folk" among all the former hippies, yogis and meditators around out here! Next to them I think I DO look hyper, but my friends are none of these types, so I guess that's why I look calm to them.

I'm doing Mike's hypnotherapy tapes- day # 41- but so far can't see any diff in terms of the strength of my AM pooping
contractions. However, I can definitely tell that it's helping me to feel better emotionally as I continue to learn, one day at a time, how to live "with graceful acceptance" w/ my C-IBS. sigh.......

Next step is to try probiotics. I can't eat any type of yogurt-even soy-, it instantly plugs me up. So I'm starting them today in powder form, based upon how much they seem to have helped Shanna. Everything I'd ever read about them either poo-pooed them in the conventional Western medical literature or, in the alternative lit, I'd only read that they were often-altho not always- helpful in relieving diarrhea. However, I'd never read ANYWHERE that they help w/ constipation until Shanna's posts about them. I've decided to give 'em a try. I decided to use the powder form b/c it's the srongest formulation that Jarrow makes- 12 billion organisms per 1/4 tsp dose. Sure hope it helps me to poop like it does Shanna...... it'd be wonderful to be able to stop having to do enemas, even once a week, which is about my average now thanks to all I've learned from Heather and this board.

Glad you are able to go regularly and that your IBS is under good control Thanks again for your empathy. LL

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Re: Txs Maryh, I'm up to 9 -10 gms of a combo of citrucel and benefiber per day. new
      #29651 - 12/01/03 10:41 PM
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Hmm...I don't know if it's safe to drink that much water a day. There's such a thing as being at a health risk if you drink too much, I forget what it's called but something bad happens where you can lose your electrolytes/body salts, that could be part of the reason you're distended.

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Re: Txs Fishnets, it's called diabetes insipidus & I've been checked for it, new
      #30146 - 12/05/03 08:58 AM
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I believe that I need to drink so much water b/c I've had severe C-IBS for so long so my body has gradually become accustomed to more and more water and both wants and needs it. Also, I don't drink as much on some days as others, the more constipated I am the more water I seem to want to drink.


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I'm still interested in knowing if being constipated disturbs others' sleep? new
      #30151 - 12/05/03 09:20 AM
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Me again. I know I wrote alot a few days ago but I wanted to share my experience so that it might be of use to others.
Anyway, I'm still interested in knowing what helps others to sleep soundly when they are very constipated.

Also, Shanna, have you tried the aloe vera juice? If yes, how's it working? I bought some yesterday but I'm not sure how much to take b/c the bottle says 2-8 ozs.


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NOTE: my pooping is now EXCELLENT! -nt- new
      #30185 - 12/05/03 11:42 AM
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Re: NOTE: my pooping is now EXCELLENT! -GREAT but due to what???-nt new
      #30201 - 12/05/03 12:36 PM
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decreased stressed, different time of "the month" new
      #30219 - 12/05/03 01:48 PM
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Sometimes, my IBS just has a mind of its own!

Also, the Jaro-Dophilus EPS, peppermint capules, and beano seemed to help get me back to normal... plus a couple of does of M of M to clean me out... (unfortunately)...

That's a/b all I can come up with.

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I know what you mean....it's the daily question in my life.......what will my colon do today???? new
      #30221 - 12/05/03 02:00 PM
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Shanna, I'm really happy for you that you're feeling so much better! Sure wish I could get there myself. I had a flu shot last week and ever since then my colon has been behaving like it's not even there.......grrrrrr!

Did you ever try aloe vera juice? If so, what amount and how often? Txs and I sure do appreciate your having started this thread way back sometime ago. I've learned alot from following it. NOW, if my colon would just learn too!!!

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Re: I can't believe all the people reading the I miss pooping topic new
      #30240 - 12/05/03 03:28 PM
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Hi Shanna, You are bringing up a topic that I think we all think about but of course never talk about. Thanks for being so open! Glad to hear you are feeling better

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Re: I know what you mean....it's the daily question in my life.......what will my colon do today???? new
      #30257 - 12/05/03 05:15 PM
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you girls are right down my alley.two days I don,t an then the next day I do.an I run run,glad I have two bath rooms one at both ends of my house.has any one tryed the new Acacia? I,m glad I,m not the only one to talk about popping.
I,ll turn into you girls more often.can,t cook but sure can pop.

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      #30260 - 12/05/03 05:34 PM
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ok girls my spelling isn,t very good but pop an pooping to me is about the same any more.you pop an you poop.but I,m so happy to see I,m not the only one.

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      #30268 - 12/05/03 08:18 PM
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IT IS SOOOO RIDICULOUS!

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Re: I know what you mean....it's the daily question in my life.......what will my colon do today???? new
      #30286 - 12/06/03 06:24 AM
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I just started using the Acacia a few weeks ago and I am so happy with the results so far. Plus I have increased my water intake by double and have noticed that has helped a lot (just be prepared to pee a lot!). You can do a search or read Heather's latest newsletter because she did a whole section on Acacia and how it works.

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Re: I miss pooping. :o( new
      #30287 - 12/06/03 06:38 AM
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thats no good at all. belly rubs! they alwasy work for me within about 1-2 hours. get some baby oil or olive oil or whatever u fancy and rub in clockwise direction (so u go down from ur left and up from ur rite side) start of nice and easy then get really into it. u'll probably also find wher ur poo gets stuck!
try it, let me know how u go
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Debby-how bad was your constipation?Has the acacia helped you to poop well? new
      #30291 - 12/06/03 08:30 AM
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I'm using benefiber and citrucel these days for a total of 8-10 gms per day so my stool is much softer and well formed than it's ever been in years. However it still doesn't want to come out!

Has the acacia helped you to actually have better peristalsis so that you have a strong complete evacuation and thus feel adequately cleaned out every day? My main problem most of the time these days is that I will have one good poop but then there is more that just won't come out. Then the poop that remains "stuck" in me [ despite taking up to an hour doing abdominal massage, yoga postions and using hot tea] makes me increasingly uncomfortable the rest of the day!

Then I don't sleep well that night and, I guess b/c I haven't slept well, I don't poop well the next day. Then I have to do an enema b/c I'm so plugged up that I can't think straight b/c I'm so distracted by the discomfort and distention. SOOOO, I'm tryiig to figure out how to get that second part of my BM out. I wonder if the acacia would help????

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FLU SHOT?!?! And what helped me... new
      #30293 - 12/06/03 08:33 AM
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Oh, no! I am scheduled for one next week. I will let you guys know if it affects my pooping. Hope yours gets better soon! I haven't tried aloe vera juice... but let us know if it helps you. I have tried organic lemon juice (bought in a glass bottle), which seemed to be moderately effective... sometimes... like you said, our colons contract when they feel like it!

I have found that not eating late at night; eating fruit and cocoa yogurt for dessert, right after din din; taking probiotics a/b 3 - 4 hrs after dinner, before bed, reading lables carefully (i.e. no lactose/milk proteins); and, finally, gettting up early for tea, breakfast, and pooping all helped me.

Once again, my hormones play a big role. I am ovulating right now, and for some reason this means BIG poops. I am having OH so much fun... lol

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fiber new
      #30295 - 12/06/03 08:36 AM
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i use citrucel first thing in the a.m. and swallow four fiber caplets before dinner (Colon Health brand, I think). I agree -- lots of H20 is important.

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      #30296 - 12/06/03 08:39 AM
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it is o.k. to use an enema or milk of magnesia to get you back on track if nothing else will work...

try taking probiotics in the a.m. (empty tummy,not w/ hot drinks) and before bed, as well as drinking tea (hot) when you wake up (stimulates your bowel).

just keep trying different things -- don't give up!! you will poop again -- and well -- i promise. it is a long road of experimentation, but, in the end you will be able to help others w/ your newfound knowledge and have great poops!!!

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      #30299 - 12/06/03 08:50 AM
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since you are up early, you could go for walk and do some crunches (after pooping, of course). this may help your morning movements, as well as your bowel movements in general. good luck!!!

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Shanna-Txs soooo much for all the ideas& support!! new
      #30305 - 12/06/03 10:42 AM
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I started aloe vera gel yesterday 2oz twice during the day.Nothing came out but I could feel lots of activity going on in there! No cramps or gas, just gurgling away!

Ended up having to do an enema so no BM today, which is normal for me the morning after an enema, but my colon does feel better than it normally does after an enema.So, I think that the aloe is helping to move things along and I'm going to take 2 ozs twice today again. I'm hoping that tomorrow [Sunday] AM it will be heavenly!

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Re: Shanna-Txs soooo much for all the ideas& support!! new
      #30308 - 12/06/03 11:33 AM
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Paula- what were you going to write?? Re: Shanna-Txs soooo much for all the ideas& support!! new
      #30310 - 12/06/03 11:53 AM
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      #30315 - 12/06/03 12:41 PM
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Hmmm. Reading your post, I noticed something. Just these past few weeks I've also been extra extended, and often, bowel movements just won't happen. I've been attacking this from all angles (exercise, water, fiber, tea, heat compress, etc), and nothing seems to work...BUT I noticed you're taking benefiber, and I just recently started taking it, too. Each serving has about 3g soluble fiber (and my diet isn't exactly lacking in fiber) I laid off oatmeal because I thought it was making me gassy and bloated, and oatmeal also has 3g of fiber. So, basically, I'm wondering if the problem is that we're getting more fiber at once than our body can handle? I've started to back off a little and use fiber with more care (a little goes a long way!) and already I feel a little less bloated. I suggest you play around with your doses of fiber and see what works best for you. I'll let you know if I get some relief soon. You do the same. Feel better!

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Re: Debby-how bad was your constipation?Has the acacia helped you to poop well? new
      #30356 - 12/06/03 08:14 PM
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Actually my main problem was diarrhea but I could also have constipation in the same day. So I think the Acacia works to eliminate both problems at once. I only get really constipated if I end up taking an Immodium to get the diarrhea to stop. So it's a battle in my head of what to do - take the stomach drugs or wait for the diarrhea to stop eventually. Hope this has helped but from what I have read, the acacia should also help with chronic constipation and remember to drink lots of water.

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      #30359 - 12/06/03 08:25 PM
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fiber makes you gassy and bloated when you are constipated... and often in general while your body adjusts. once you are "cleaned out" and more regular, fiber should be beneficial.

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      #30360 - 12/06/03 08:30 PM
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it is definitely ok to use an enema or milk of magnesia if necessary. hopefully, we can figure out how to help you have a bowel movement on your own. are you keeping a journal of everything you eat, how it affects you, the supplements you take, " " " ", as well as logging your exercise? these could be clues. also, are you using a probiotic and drinking tea first thing in the a.m.? do you eat breakfast? how much sleep do you get each night/when do you go to bed and wake up?

let me know if the aloe vera helps you... and if you decide to give lemon juice a try. keep in mind, if you are backed up, a lot of effective treatments may be ineffective.

your very welcome -- i am here to help you guys -- just like ya'll help me. so thanks to ya'll, too!

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Re: FLU SHOT?!?! And what helped me... new
      #30391 - 12/07/03 07:15 AM
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Flu shots...I read somewhere that they can do more harm than good. Anyone else hear that? I think the article said that the injection they give can cause allergic reactions or it can make you sick...

Shanna, I thought I was the only person on Earth that poops best during their period! LOL Isn't it the greatest?

What is cocoa yogurt...I've never seent his. Who makes it? How do you eat your fruit for dessert? Is it cooked or raw?

How many hours before bed do you eat? My hubby gets home at around 6:30-7pm so I end up finishing dinner not long before bed...maybe 2.5 hours at most. I find this to be tough on my IBS. It sounds like you get 4-5 hours in between your last meal of the day and going to sleep at night? Good for you!

Thanks for all these wonderful tidbits!

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      #30412 - 12/07/03 10:05 AM
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I am getting my flu shot on Tuesday -- hopefully I can get some more info. a/b it before then.

I try to get a good 3 to 4 hours in btw dinner and bed... but I know that life doesn't always coincide w/ our schedules. However, the later you eat, the harder it is to digest your food... so I try not to eat too late. I have also heard that eating late at night is linked to weight gain b/c your body stores more fat while you sleep, plus the extra calories in general (snacking to make it to a late night dinner or late night snacking after the dinner). The second part is definitely true... flashback to freshman year!

This month, my best poops came during ovulation. It looks like my period may lead to constipation. DARN! LOL

As for cocoa yogurt, I mix in 4 T of cocoa powder (I use SACO) w/ 1 -- 6 oz container (3/4 C) of vanilla yogurt (I use Cascade Fresh or Stoneybrook Farms or a soy version). I always make sure to mix it REALLY well, and I usually top it with Cool Whip or Hip Wip (both dairy free) and throw some sliced bananas and whole rasberries (both uncookied) on top. I really like the way it all tastes together! If you only have plain yogurt, just mix 3/4c w/ 1 t vanilla and 1 T sugar (more if necessary... same goes for the original recipe). Let me know what you think...

I also eat fruit after any meal -- usually lunch -- expecially apples and pears. I often eat bananas on an empty stomach (they have a soluble fiber base).

Hope I answered all your questions!

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      #30445 - 12/07/03 01:51 PM
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Thanks, Shanna. That's what I figure, too. My body's just not been ready for ANY food lately, fiber or no, soluble or no. But I'm gradually introducing my body to the good stuff. Already, I've been feeling less bloated and feeling better (AND I pooped today, hee hee - i feel like i deserve a prize or something, ha ha, just for pooping - we are truly a unique group of people ). And guess what!? I figured it out. I didn't realize I was premenstrual until today! Maybe the premenstrual cramps were thwarting all my good efforts? Lithelady, how are you feeling? I hope you're feeling better.

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      #30473 - 12/07/03 04:23 PM
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Yesterday I made my own hot chocolate(dairy free), and halfway through drinking it I HAD to get to the bathroom! I wonder if it was because it was a hot drink or if it's the things I put in it? Hmmm. When I have tea I don't react like that though. Maybe I should have hot cocoa everyday!

Anyway, having more trouble going lately Not sure if it's cause my stool softeners are not working for me anymore or if I'm doing something wrong...I try to get as much insoluble fiber as I can, but doesn't seem to be helping! And of course not being able to do is making me bloated, uff!

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      #35480 - 01/06/04 11:01 AM
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Shanna,
When is it ok for you to eat dried fruits? Do you just add them to something that you are already eating that is soluble fiber? I thought I would try dried prunes for helping relieve constipation but I'm not quite sure how to go about this. Worried about gas, distention and stuff.

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      #35513 - 01/06/04 01:18 PM
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Cristy, I happen to know Shanna is in Spain on studies so it is likely hard for her to get to the boards. Why don't you make the dried fruit question a seperate post and see what answers you get.

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      #35556 - 01/06/04 04:19 PM
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Well since I've had kids it seems all I talk about is poo....it's either theirs or mine...so what the hey. I have to say though I would pay a high price for the priviledge of going regularly and painlessly!!!! I must be doing something wrong with this diet.....

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      #35557 - 01/06/04 04:31 PM
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Well, I see a month ago that Shanna's pooping was excellent. That's good to know a month after the fact, eh?

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      #41681 - 01/28/04 08:15 PM
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Well hun, try more greens, molasses will get you flowing too if ever but you may get very crampy which is not fun but of course you must know that...
fiber will help also, sounds funny it helps when constipated and when going too much...
hope this help

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      #80190 - 06/16/04 09:36 PM
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Too funny!! At least I don't feel so alone anymore!!!

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miss pooping too new
      #283895 - 09/25/06 04:46 PM

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i'm so backed up my stomache feels full like i ate a big meal. Do you ever feel like a piece of crap when you can't crap? You feel like a gross person and you emagine how many pounds are in you and how it affects your weight,lol.

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      #283902 - 09/25/06 05:56 PM
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try the natural calm that we have been talking about in the last little while, it is a magnesium citrate products that ionizes when it hits hot water so it is far more easily used by your body than other kinds of magnesium and it works in your body to re-balance lacking magnesium levels which make you go to the bathroom when you haven't been for a while, it is not a laxative and you will not become dependent on it once your magnesium balance in your bady has been restored.

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Re: I can't believe all the people reading the I miss pooping topic new
      #283904 - 09/25/06 05:58 PM

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I was about to come on here and post and saw this topic. Sigh. I heard Oprah the other day talking about making a big S or a C shape poop and I'm thinking what I would do if I ever had that! I miss pooping too and I'm so tired of making pebbles. I too feel like it must be all stored inside somewhere. I tried the Fennel tea in hopes of some miracle and I'm just gassy and bloated so right now I'm in some sort of flare. Obvious I need to fix my diet though I'm pretty dedicated to sticking to it I need to read Heather's books I just got, because I think I got myself into a bind no pun intended LOL with limiting myself to not eating foods that make you go.

When all else fails I do use Milk of Mag and it's magic for me. Then days after I'm left with IBS-D until it empties out, but once in a while for us IBS-C suffers it feels good to release it, but then 3 days later I'm back to being stuffed up. I haven't tried Heather's fiber yet because I need to add more foods, but that's my next hope. It's so good to come on here to realize I'm not alone.

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Weight of poop! new
      #283916 - 09/25/06 07:14 PM
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I was watching a program on TV this weekend and they said that John Wayne died with 40 pounds of fecal matter in his body and Elvis Presley had 60 pounds.

Don't know if it's true....but that's how I feel too often!

I can't help but worry what all this toxic waste is doing to our bodies. I wasn't meant to remain in there for so long.

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      #283921 - 09/25/06 09:09 PM

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i mean don't people that go regularly carry 7-10 lbs? I feel gross and sometimes i find myself concentratingon how constipated i feel than what's going on. I get so mad that i yell to myself, you won't beleive it, maybe you willl, do some of you say this? [censored] YOU COLON!! One time in front of my dad and sister i said that and pretended to punch my gut angrily in several places. it was funny because i was telling myself to f*** myself.

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      #283954 - 09/26/06 06:58 AM
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The topic title cracked me up. I was laughing, but I know this is a serious matter. And I hope that you all can start a regular cycle. I know the fiber has helped me a lot! Also, I noticed that when I exercise really well that I get a good BM too.

Anywho...I hope that information is useful to someone.

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What fiber brand do you take? And how much? new
      #283957 - 09/26/06 07:21 AM
Jordy

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What type of exercise helps you?

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Re: What fiber brand do you take? And how much? new
      #283958 - 09/26/06 07:25 AM
rlhilliard

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Loc: Racine, WI

I do the acacia powder. I typically take about a tsp a day...sometimes more.

The exercise doesn't seem to matter so long as I'm getting a good cardio workout. The times I've noticed this the most is when we are doing a lot of work in the yard or something...and it takes a good hour or so to do.

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      #283961 - 09/26/06 07:30 AM
Jordy

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That's only 2 grams of fiber. I'm up to 8 grams and I'm still constipated...even though I take Miralax too.

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Re: miss pooping too new
      #283980 - 09/26/06 09:18 AM

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Where do you get Natural Calm? A health store?

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Re: I miss pooping.My solution new
      #283983 - 09/26/06 09:25 AM
Susie2

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Posts: 158
Loc: Pomona California

is to eat something greasy followed by a bowl of ice cream. Like last night I had tempura and then rocky road ice cream. The down side is the cramps, but go I did. I don't do this very often, but sometimes I feel like I have to shake up the whole system.

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