Q. re: how much SF do you estimate you EAT in an average day?
#222156 - 10/30/05 06:44 PM
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Wind
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I'm kind of curious re: how much SF does everyone estimate they actually eat in an average day? (this is excluding SFS)
I actually reduced my SFS because I get more than adequete SF in foods alone.
I hope it eliminates my D-streak. We'll see.
I estimated/calculated that I eat AT LEAST 20g of SF from food in an average/regular day--often more.
Is this abnormal? Is this too much/not enough from food alone? (Note, this excludes IF consumed via food)
Kate, IBS-D.
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I've never actually worked it out but it's gotta be alot!  I find I need the Acacia as well to keep me stable tho.
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...if you take too much fiber...like more than 35 grams a day, it actually hurts you more than helps.  So, if you are taking 15 grams in the form of Acacia, that only leaves 20 for food. I know I eat about 25 grams fiber total so far...that that would put me up to 40...and I need to eat more than I am in order to gain weight. So, should I keep my Acacia dose low?
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I'll check how many grams I'm eating tomorrow if I remember...and I'm happy with how I am.
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And personally, I think that's crap. I don't remember how much Kandee's taking, but I think she's getting about that much from SFS alone! And she's just an example. I fully believe that some people need more SF than others, just like some need more IF than others (although, of course, everybody needs both of them!).
I'm not sure how much SF I eat in a day... if anyone wants to figure it out, I can rattle off what I ate yesterday, which was pretty representative. Plus I take 6-8g FiberChoice. I figure I'm around 25g/day, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's more than that on days that I really pig out.
By the way, calories put on weight, not SF. Of course, SF foods tend to be denser in calories, but my point is that you can gain weight by eating more sugar, for example. I still think you need to bake up some of those tasty quick breads and cakes and have them around at all times. It certainly put the pounds back on ME. 
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Yeah, I really "pig" out, too, Casey--ROTL!!!
I know, having checked, that I actually eat more than 20g of SF. I've been taking 15-18g of Benefiber (pure SF). I think I'll reduce to 6g (or 2T), at night, as a D preventative.
What do you think? I've just had really loose bowels/D/and countess bathroom visits.
I agree with you completely re: excessive CALORIES versus SF putting on weight. I had the same HUGE disagreement with my border. SF foods have the advantage of SATIETY--well, fiber in general is quite satisfying and filling, Lol!
I really like SF root veggies and mushrooms and SF fruits!!!
I'm terrible, but, for example, if I make a high SF soup, I can easily eat 2/3 of the pot (which if one gave it a serving size according to recipe portions would be 4 out of 6 servings).
Lol! Soup nazi. But truly, I just EAT LOTS, and lots of SF.
Kate, IBS-D.
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I'm not good with measurements but today I have eaten 1 serving plus 1T malt o meal, 1 1/2 servings newman pretzels, 2 bananas, 1 luna, 2 large pieces white bread, 6 wild mushrooms, 1 1/2c cooked carrots. Later I will eat 1 ciabatta roll and some fries from last night. So how many grams is that?
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#222319 - 10/31/05 01:25 PM
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Linz
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The Benefiber shouldn't really be causing the D. If you want to cut back, I'd only go to 12g (so still a significant dose, but not a high one) or you might actually make yourself worse. 
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You need to get a MINIMUM of 25-35 grams per day, total. But getting more than that is good for you overall health, not bad. There are lots of countries in the world where people average 60-80 grams of fiber per day, and some African countries actually go all the way up to 150 grams per day. Their diet-related disease rates are much, much lower than those in Western countries, and a lot of that is attributable to their fiber intake (as well as all other nutrients they're getting from those plant sources of fiber, and the lack of saturated fats in their diets).
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Mmm, soup
#222358 - 10/31/05 05:17 PM
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atomic rose
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Last winter I made myself a weekly pot of potato soup. I wouldn't dare do that now, because although it was nice and filling, I'm sure I'd decimate the pot in 2 days. I love soup. But I was still struggling to eat a year ago; now, well.... heh.
There are certain foods I can't have around the house because I have no self-control around them. Cereal is my biggest "offender". My guts, mind you, LOVE it when I pig out on cereal; all that SF definitely makes 'em happy. My waistline, though... not so much so. LOL!
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Confession: I'm not up to speed in SF in stuff like malt-o-meal or breads/pretzels. (Lol! I only re-introduced Cheerios to my pantry, recently and made friends with potatoes!) I'm not sure how much the 6 wild mushrooms would yield, chopped. The carrots, the bananas, the potatoes/fries...they definitely add SF bulk. At least 10g as an offhand underestimate without being "anal" and checking a reference chart.
I just sort of think it's interesting re: how much SF people are eating versus quantity of SF supplemented.
Thanks, though!
Kate, IBS-D.
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Re: Kate
#222362 - 10/31/05 05:32 PM
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Wind
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Good point. I'll try 12g.
Thanks, Linz.
Kate, IBS-D.
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I think I average about 20g of SF a day from food sources. If I get more than that, I definitely have bigger, better BMs. 
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Yeah, on a bad day, I get around 20g.
I reduced my benefiber and am only going to take it at night.
I did that and am not chained to the toilet all afternoon and could go out without anxiety and trepidation!  I did 9g of benefiber, last night, but more as a D preventative, if that makes sense. I only needed one Immodium today!
Most days, though...I eat more than 20g of SF.
Thanks for sharing your experience/input. I'm just curious re: how much SF others think/estimate they are actually eating.
Kate, IBS-D.
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Or are you figuring it out based on supplement alone?
I would LOVE to know how much SF and IF I get in a day...
(Obviously..I can't help ya Kate...cause I have no idea how much I'm getting! Sorry bout that! )
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There are too many conflicting charts on how much SF is in what food. If there was an accurate one Heather would be the fist to hand it to us. We can only go by how that food reacts to water absorption or how easily it smushes (for lack of a better word). Therefore I don't bother even trying to count the amount of SF I eat in one day, but rather the amount of SF in my SFS, then make sure I have a meal with a good SF base OR have a few g. of SFS first...if that makes any sense..
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And personally, I think that's crap. I agree!! I don't remember how much Kandee's taking, but I think she's getting about that much from SFS alone! Absolutely..I get between 30 and 40 g. of SFS per day...in the form of acacia, inulin, and psyllium. The amount in food I let take care of itself. Believe me, doing it this way I can even eat very little SF in the form of certain foods like rice/GF bread/etc. at a meal because I'm so stable. Occasionally I'll have a meal almost all IF and get away with it. And she's just an example. I fully believe that some people need more SF than others, just like some need more IF than others (although, of course, everybody needs both of them!). Very true..for me I have a couple things going that dictate I NEED more of both SFS and IF...one is age, another is being hypothyroid, another is having a mild case of diverticulosis. We're all different, but if anyone, especially a C is still having bowel problems then upping the SFS is the most sensible solution to the problem.
I'm not sure how much SF I eat in a day... if anyone wants to figure it out, I can rattle off what I ate yesterday, which was pretty representative. Plus I take 6-8g FiberChoice. I figure I'm around 25g/day, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's more than that on days that I really pig out.
By the way, calories put on weight, not SF. Of course, SF foods tend to be denser in calories, but my point is that you can gain weight by eating more sugar, for example. LMBO..how well I know...sugar and nuts did it to me....I've given up the nuts but the sugar, no way. I still think you need to bake up some of those tasty quick breads and cakes and have them around at all times. It certainly put the pounds back on ME. LOL..you look just right to me
Casey!!!
Kandee
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I still think you need to bake up some of those tasty quick breads and cakes and have them around at all times. It certainly put the pounds back on ME.
I still haven't been able to force myself to eat wheat products. I've ventured as far as spelt bread, oats, and barley...but wheat is still off limits for me. I'm just not ready to go there yet.
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