Fatty Liver
#19180 - 08/31/03 03:23 PM
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Tim G
Reged: 08/07/03
Posts: 95
Loc: NSW, Australia
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Hi Guys,
I was wondering if anyone else here was suffering / has suffered with 'Fatty Liver'?
I saw a new specialist the other week who pointed out an issue with the blood test results that I had taken along as they were almost double what they should have been and apparently indicated a 'Fatty Liver'. He also suggested that as my liver was underfunctioning, it could be leaving additional toxins in the blood which in turn could be having a destabilising effect on my Colon and was a likely cause or trigger for my IBS. I couldn't believe that the three other specialists had 'missed it'.
It kind of makes sense to me that this could be the case and I am now working to try and resolve the 'fatty liver' issue aswell as sustaining the general IBS improvements.
As always, I am interested in what everyone else thinks...??
Best regards,
Tim
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Hi Guys,
I posted this once before, but seems like I am the only sufferer!!
As the two most trusted experts on IBS I was wondering if you had had any run-ins with 'Fatty Liver'?
I saw a new GI specialist the other week about my IBS and he pointed out an issue with the blood test results that I had taken along as the AST figure was slightly elevated and ALT was almost double the norm. He advised that Fatty Liver was a common problem and that this meant my liver was underfunctioning and, instead of processing fat, it was storing it.
He also explained that as the liver is the main filter for fat and toxins in the blood he felt that as mine is underfunctioning, it could be leaving additional toxins in the blood which in turn could be having a destabilising effect on my Colon and was a likely cause or trigger for my IBS.
It kind of makes sense to me that this could be the case and I am now working to try and resolve the 'fatty liver' issue aswell as sustaining the general IBS improvements, however Dr Sandra Cabot's Healthy liver diet has some conflicting ideas and things that I should be minimising for my IBS diet are positively encouraged to improve the liver...whatever shall I do?
I would really appreciate it if you could find the time to reply. As always, I am interested in what everyone else thinks too...:)
Thanks
Tim
Best regards,
Tim
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Hi Tim! I ran across your message and it really struck me! I found Heather within the last few months and am doing better than I was before thru dietary changes. I've shared this info with my mom who is very supportive and came to me when my dad started having some of the same symptoms as me. I know that he has cirrohsis of the liver (not from alcohol consumption though!) but I didn't know what effect it had on the rest of his body. So I looked up a few websites and found out that too much animal fat can give him the lovely crampy gut and D just like what we IBSers get. Check out www.liverfoundation.org and www.liverdisease.com/nutritionalguidelines to get more info. I've given the dietary changes info to my mom because there is little chance that a 74 yr old farmer will change to a more vegetarian way of eating unless he is properly motivated.  He can still have some meat but needs more proteins from plant sources. He has cut out all alcohol, eats less salt and is starting a list of meats that hurt his gut. I'm proud of him!
Hope the info helps. Good luck to you!!
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Hi Tim - I'm not super familiar with fatty liver, and actually I'd thought this was something that mostly affected older people so I'm surprised they found this. But I'm glad they did, especially as three other docs missed it.
I've read Cabot's book and she does have some really good advice. You can actually combine her dietary info with the IBS diet pretty easily. The only thing to watch for is make sure you're getting enough soluble fiber, which she doesn't emphasize as much, and make sure you're eating all the insoluble fiber foods she relies on very carefully, according to the IBS guidelines.
If you can hang in there a few days I'm going to get Will to post info about this. He's really familiar with fatty liver and Cabot's book and should have some very helpful suggestions. He's down for the count with a head cold right now though, so hold tight. 
- Heather
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Hi Catherine,
Thanks for the info. My consumption of animal fats should be pretty low as I haven't had beef for over twelve years, since Mad cow hit England, and as I didn't miss it I have never gone back. Similar story with pork and lamb though probably more recent (about 5 years). I normally exist on a diet of chicken and fish, though I was a real cheese addict which has stopped since IBS hit so maybe that'll help in the longer term. I will check out the links you sent through and see how things go.
Thanks again
Tim
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Hi Heather,
Yeah I thought Fatty Liver hit older people...guess I was wrong (though I have to say I've been feeling pretty old and worn out recently with the persistent IBS attacks!!)
I had decided to focus on getting the liver back into service by eating all the green leafy veg, garlic, onions along with taking a liver tonic in the hope that it would kill off the IBS symptoms when my liver was back on track...clearly it was way too fast and I now see that I should have taken things a lot slower. The GI specialist did say that it could take up to a year of good 'healthy' living to get the thing back on track (though somehow I am supposed to lose 5-8kg over that period which, even with 3 hrs cardio exercise a week is just not happening).
Anyway, more than happy to wait for a few days for Will, and thanks so much for getting back to me. Wish him all the best for me, and hope he get's well soon!
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My Liver is still fat...any news?
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Tim
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I'd be interested to read any new posts in this thread as well, as my boyfriend's mother, who had had a diagnosis of IBS, was recently hospitalized and finally diagnosed with fatty liver.
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Hi Tess (and Tim) - I've reminded Will about this. He's just been swamped with work lately. I'm going to try and get him to answer over the weekend when he'll have some time.
So sorry for the delay...
- H
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Hi TessLouise,
OK, now I am curious. Do you know whether she didn't really have IBS but a fatty liver instead, or whether she had IBS but also a fatty liver that was contributing to her IBS symptoms? I would be really interest to know.
Thanks and best regards
Tim
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