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Well, that's my question too, actually. Okay, keep in mind that I've never met this woman (I know, I know...boyfriend keeps putting it off...). Anyway, she's in her mid-50s (I think around the same age as my mom, maybe a bit older), lost a great deal of weight in the last few years but is still on the heavy side, smokes, works very, very long hours so doesn't get much sleep, and works as a cook so she doesn't cook for herself when she gets home--too burned out. (Oh, this sounds so unflattering, I hope she never accesses the boards!  ) I don't know how long she's had the IBS diagnosis--I've talked to her about quitting smoking (she's in the process right now) and about the diet, but I'm not sure she's interested. Finally, just recently she was diagnosed with fatty liver after being hospitalized for several days with a fever and dehydration and having a ton of tests come back negative. That's about all I know, and it doesn't form a coherent picture for me. I guess that's what I'm looking for--a coherent picture. Does that make sense?
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We're in the same boat then!!
My specialist seemed to think that fatty liver may be an aggravator but not necessarilly the cause, suggesting that my IBS was most likely brought on by stress.
Anyhoo, per my previous note he seemed to feel that the fatty liver could be improved by losing a few pounds (Yeah..Okay!! More than a few (3-5kg to be precise)) and cutting out any Caffeine, Chocolate, Nuts or Fried Food along with taking a walk every day for about 30-40 mins and drinking 6-8 glasses of water.
He also suggested, though I haven't followed this up with my GP yet, that if my IBS-d didn't calm down shortly I should get my GP to prescribe something called Sinequan which apparently was an early anti-depressant originally prescribed for kids that wet the bed, but is known to have a relaxing effect on the bowel and should help with the stress. (I will talk to my doc on Tuesday about that!!)
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Tim
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Tim
-A poor man's Jamie Oliver...without the attitude!
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I understand how you feel tim, I have been suffering off and on with IBS for a couple of years and my physician (back in July after reviewing my latest round of tests) informed me that I had a fatty liver and that my enzymes were high. I have searched high and low on the internet for information regarding fatty liver, the problem is none of them supply any links, they all say there are no exact symptoms, just to utilize a low fat diet and get plenty of exercise. I was told by my doctor to engage in aerobic exercise atleast 30 min a day atleast 5 days a week, cut out the salt and fat, and drink atleast 64 oz. of water a day. If anyone has any information on the subject it would be most appreciative. By the way I am 23 years old!!!!
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that if he doesn't answer this post soon I'll have to get rough. 
- Heather
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Hi Heather,
Looks like the threats didn't work on Will eh? Never mind, I'm getting into the Sandra Cabot book now.
The other good news is that my GI Specialist prescribed something called Sinequan for me which was apparently one of the early Anti-depressants. The big plus is that for over a week now I have had normal BM's, still a little more frequent than I would like and I am still getting the occasional stomach pains but at least I'm feeling a little more in control.
I up the dosage of Sinequan on the weekend and hope that that will reduce the frequency bit, but we'll have to see how things go.
Sorry I have been absent for a while, things have been crazy after the storm and I am also trying to keep up with a demanding return to work schedule (though there hasn't been too much luck there recently!!)
Anyway, all the best
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Tim
-A poor man's Jamie Oliver...without the attitude!
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No kidding, last night I got to wondering where you were and what has happening. I am really glad to hear the new drug is helping - that's terrific. Sometimes the old drugs are the best - tried and true, and least all side effects will be well-known, so you're not in for any unhappy surprises.
I am STILL nagging Will to post about the fatty liver. I'll go throw something at him right now.
- Heather
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Ouch! My head hurts. 
Last thing I remember was something flying across the room and this time it was bigger and heavier than usual. I don't know how long I have been unconscious but it must have been a while because this last post dates back a week ago.
Seriously folks, don't get Heather mad at you, she may look cute but she really packs a punch.
Tim, I am posting to you. If the help I give is useless, it's because of the concussion I have and it's all your fault. Look for my reply to your last post.
Will
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So, if someone with IBS had this, it would have shown up in blood tests? Does it cause IBS-C or -D?
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Shanna
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Hi Will,
Hmmm...I'm either really stupid (it's possible! ) or the IBS has finally spread to my brain and is preventing me finding the post that you speak of!!
I hope Heather didn't do too much damage to you!! (Thanks Heather  ). No, seriously I'm not like that and anything outside of minor maiming is a little too excessive!! (But then again!! )
Anyhow, if you can send me link to the illusive reply I would much appreciate it.
Thanks and all the best
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Tim
-A poor man's Jamie Oliver...without the attitude!
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Hi Tim,
I have a pretty long post going and haven't finished it. I will try to get it done by tomorrow.
In the mean time, have you heard of Hawthorne Berries? If you have a big health food store near you, you will probably only find them there or a herbal shop. I have to get mine from herb stores in China Town here in Seattle as that is the only place I have seen them. The Chinese are not likely to know what you are talking about and they call them "San Tshou" (I am not sure how close this will come to pronouncing it property). They have tones and San is a high flat tone and Tschou is a falling note (high to low). Tschou is probably pronounced Tsjow and you almost don't hear the TS.
These berries are sliced and dried and come in one pound bags. They have a lot to do with saving my life.
Take a very large mug and put about a half cup of them in the bottom. Pour boiling water over them and steep so it makes a nice hot sour tea. Drink on an empty stomach (might give you heart burn and if so, lighten up on it) 2 - 3 times a day. This tea is drunk by the Chinese to lower cholesterol and it does a fantastic job of dissolving hardened bile in the liver and gall bladder. Quit eating any saturated fat until you solve this problem.
In the mean time, Granny Smith apples are fantastic as well. Have one on an empty stomach in the morning and at night (peel for ibs, I don't know how sensitive you are) before you go to bed or juice them. Other apples just don't have the same effect and are one tenth as effective.
You need to clean your liver out to solve the fat problem. Eat only good oils such as Olive Oil, Flax, fish oils, Grape Seed, Avocado and so on. You really need to study up on oils, there is a lot to know.
I am not a doctor. I may not know what I am talking about. This just worked for me when twenty different doctors said I was fine yet I almost died. I just had to figure things out for myself.
I will post more later and I hope this helps. Actually, I am going to wait to hear from you to see if you are taking the apples.
Tim, you will get better and overcome this. This is one area doctors just can't help you and you will have to take responsibility for this yourself.
Good luck,
Will
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