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Fiber Treatments
      #1813 - 03/03/03 02:01 AM
Kimbo

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Posts: 114
Loc: Edmonton, AB, Canada

I was wondering what the best fiber treatment is? I've been using single paks of Metamucil Orange for the past week. Taste is alright. I'm feeling rather gasy but I'm not sure if thats me or the metamucil. Since I'm going to have to import it from North America - I want to be sure I'm using the best kind. I have trouble with things that don't smell and taste good (can't get it past my tongue) which is why I went for something orange flavoured. What does everyone recommend and why? What's most economical?

->Kim

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Re: Fiber Treatments new
      #1836 - 03/03/03 02:48 PM
KinOz

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Loc: Brisbane, Australia

Hi,
People are probably sick of hearing me sing it's praises but I really like Benefiber. It's colourless and completely tastless. You can add it to water or even your peppermint tea.

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All about fiber supplements... new
      #1843 - 03/03/03 03:12 PM
HeatherAdministrator

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Hi there - In general, I recommend people avoid psyllium (Metamucil) as their first choice because it can cause bloating and gas. The other supplements won't typically do that.

Citrucel (methylcellulose) is a good choice - it comes in powders and pills, unflavored and orange flavored. Benefiber (guarm gum) is a plain powder that is also nice, and dissolves into virtually nothing. Equalactin (calcium polycarbophil) is a great tablet as it's chewable, and they market specifically to IBS which I appreciate. Fibercon (calcium polycarbophil) is plain tablets that have the same ingredients as Equalactin, but they're not chewable.

Now, here's where there is a great deal of variation in individual tolerances and preferences:

Some folks find that liquids work better for them than pills. Other people have difficulty swallowing the liquids, and prefer the pills. For the powders, the flavored varieties can be more palatable, but the citric acid (which gives the orange flavor) can cause reflux for some people. Artificial sweeteners can also cause problems for some, so avoid those. To be as safe as possible, choose the unflavored, uncolored varieties (like plain Citrucel or Benefiber) or the plain pills.

You might like to have both powders and pills - take the liquids at home, and keep the pills on you for restaurants, work, and traveling.

You can actually get generic versions of most of these supplements, and that can be more economical. Prices vary a lot depending on what store you purchase from.

For detailed info about starting and maintaining dosages of soluble fiber supplements, check here web page

Best,
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Re: Fiber Treatments new
      #1850 - 03/03/03 05:50 PM
H2

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Posts: 161
Loc: Ohio

Thanks - I think I will stop at the store and try that tomorrow. I have just been slowly adding fiber over the last couple days. I've been taking Metamucil and right now am so bloated I think I might explode.

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Re: Fiber Treatments - why not get it from Australia? new
      #1852 - 03/03/03 06:45 PM
jo1978

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We're much closer & it's sold in nearly every supermarket here.

I haven't tried this one (being a local and all) but it might be cheaper..

http://www.greataussiefood.com.au/



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Fiber Treatments in Canada new
      #1895 - 03/04/03 01:56 PM
lily

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Loc: New Brunswick, Canada

Hi all,

Went to the doc today, she suggested I start on Metamucil, but i'm a bit nervous to try it because of the warnings that it will cause even more gas and bloating. Trouble is - the drugstores here (in New Brunswick, Canada) don't seem to have any other option. Have any other Canadians had a hard time finding Citrucel, Benefibre or Equalactin?
Thanks,

lily

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Re: Fiber Treatments in Canada new
      #1897 - 03/04/03 02:21 PM
HeatherAdministrator

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For Canada, you can get something called Fiberrific in some health food stores, and you can order Equalactin from hardtofindbrands.com. Other than that I don't know of any options - ridiculous, but this seems to be the case.

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Re: All about fiber supplements... new
      #4989 - 04/03/03 08:52 AM
Lisa37

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HI Heather, thanks so much for always answering me so promptly. I really really really appreciate it. Since I'm new to IBS and the Board, I was just curious about this... if the box says 2 pills Fibercon per day why does your web site link say 2 pills 4 times a day? Thanks much, Lisa.

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Re: All about fiber supplements... new
      #5049 - 04/03/03 05:55 PM
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Hi Lisa - Check this post web page

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Soya alert? new
      #5067 - 04/03/03 08:48 PM
ajc

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Posts: 15
Loc: australia

Hi all, I got this email this afternoon - not sure how true it is , but might be worth having a read of - not wanting to panic anyone - there are some interesting links at the bottom....

Soya - this is interesting, if you are not female, please give to those who
are.


In 1989, I graduated from high school in Texas and couldn't wait to hit the
big
college city. One of the changes I wanted to make was to eat healthier.

Once I moved to health-conscious Austin, Texas, I began to fortify my body
with
the best and healthiest foods I could find. Tofu was the main ingredient in
every healthy dish and I bought Soya milk almost every day.
I used it for everything from cereal to smoothies or just to drink for a
quick
snack. I bought soya muffins, miso soup with tofu, soyabeans, soybean
sprouts,
etc.

All the literature in all the health and fitness magazines said that soya
protected you against everything from heart disease to breast cancer.

It was the magical isoflavones, the estrogens-like hormones that all worked
to
help you stay young and healthy . I looked great, I was working out all the
time, but my menstrual cycle was off. At 20, I started taking birth control
pills to regulate my menstrual cycle. In addition to this I began to suffer
from
painful periods. I began to get puffy, it was as though I was losing my
muscle
tone. I began to suffer from depression and getting hot flashes. I mistook
all
this for PMS since my periods were irregular.

By the time I was 25, my periods were so bad I couldn't walk. The birth
control
pills never made them regular or less painful so I decided to stop taking
them.
I went on like this for another two years until I realized my pain wasn't
normal.

At 27, my gynaecologist found two cysts in my uterus. Both were the size of
tennis balls. I went through surgery to have them removed and thank God they
were benign. The gynaecologist told me to go back on birth control pills. I
didn't.

In 1998, he discovered a lump in my breast. Again, I went through surgery
and
again it was benign. In November 2000 my glands swelled up and my gums
became
inflamed. Thinking I had a tooth infection i went to the dentist who told me
that teeth were not the problem. After a dose of antibiotics the swelling
still
did not go down.

At this point I could feel a tiny nodule on the right side of my
neck. I told my mother I had thyroid trouble. She think I was being silly.
No
one in the family suffered from thyroid trouble. Going on a hunch I saw a
specialist who diagnosed me with Papillary Thyroid Carcinoma.

After a series of tests he told me it was cancer. My fiancé and I sat
stunned.
We were not prepared and I was so scared. We scheduled surgery right away.
The
specialist told us that it would only be after the operation that a
pathologist
would be able to tell us for sure if it was cancer.
They found a tumour at my right lobe composed of irregular cells and another
smaller tumour growing on the left, so the entire thyroid was removed.
They told me that after undergoing radioactive iodine I would be
safe and assured me that I could live a long life.

After treatment began to search for the cause of all these problems. I never
once thought it could be all the soya I had consumed for nearly ten years.

After all, soya is healthy. I came upon a web page that linked thyroid
problems
to soya intake and the conspiracy of soya marketed as a health food when in
fact
it is only a toxic by-product of the vegetable oil industry. This was
insane,
after all, the health and fitness magazines had said nothing about soya
being
harmful.

I visited a herbalist who was diagnosed with thyroid cancer in 1985.
She informed me that soya was the culprit. She had a hysterectomy due to
cysts
and other uterine problems. A few months later another acquaintance who had
consumed soya came down with thyroid cancer. A girl in England I met through
the
internet in a thyroid cancer forum had just undergone surgery and she was
only
19.

What was going on????

Breast cancer is linked to estrogens. What mimics estrogens in the female
body,
SOYA! But I never suspected soya because until now I never once found a
single
article that stated soya could be dangerous. Women who took soya prior to
thyroid problems will continue to take it after if they are not aware of
what
soya actually does, what it contains and how it reacts in the female body. I
think this is the reason that women with thyroid cancer often develop breast
cancer later. My co-worker is big into soya and I see her losing hair and
gaining weight despite a walking workout during her break and after work,
and
apples and oranges for lunch.
She just had cysts removed from her uterus too. I warn her to stay off soya.
I
refer her to websites but until it is on the evening news on all four
networks,
women will suffer.

Since the thyroidectomy. I do not touch soya, haven't for two years.

Dear readers, please use my story in any way you can. There are so many
young
girls who are consuming soya because they think they are taking care of
themselves, and women taking soya because they want to be healthy.

It is so unfair that the information about the dangers of soya isn't more
widely
circulated. It is sad. There are many out there who feel this way and it is
a
terrible blow when you realize you are not as healthy as you thought and
that
the information that you depended on was wrong.

Some references.
http://www.haelan.co.uk/Wholefood-Soya.shtml

http://www.netlink.de/gen/Zeitung/2000/000813.html

http://www.biotech-info.net/soya.html

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This is false info...you're right to be suspicious. new
      #5073 - 04/03/03 09:44 PM
HeatherAdministrator

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Hi - I'm not sure why these freaky stories about soy are floating around, but they have no basis on medical studies or historical evidence whatsoever. In fact, there is extremely strong evidence that soy lowers the risk of reproductive cancers, heart disease, and osteoporosis. If anything, women in their childbearing years should be eating soy as regularly as possible. There is direct evidence that soy, which contains phytoestrogens, helps lower female cancers that are associated with higher estrogen levels and lifetime exposure (like breast cancer). It doesn't raise this risk - the exact opposite! It's hypothesized that one of the reasons Asian women have a fraction of the breast cancer risk that US women have is because of their high soy intake.

Here's a link to an excellent, peer-reviewed, medical study on soy benefits specifically for women's health:

http://www.nhir.com/tests/soywomenshealth.pdf

Best,
Heather


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Re: This is false info...you're right to be suspicious. new
      #5098 - 04/04/03 05:58 AM
torbetta

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A woman who taught at the school I student taught at said her doctor said women who have had breast cancer should stay away from soy. The doctor said if you have HAD breast cancer soy increases you chances to have a reoccurance of breast cancer, which during my time there she did have a relaps. She used to drink soy milk all the time until her doctor said something. Have you ever heard of this?

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Re: This is false info...you're right to be suspicious. new
      #5133 - 04/04/03 01:09 PM
HeatherAdministrator

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Hi - I haven't heard this. Everything I've seen points to soy as a way to decrease breast cancer risk. I haven't seen something specifically about cancer relapse, but if I find anything I'll definitely post it.

- H

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Re: This is false info...you're right to be suspicious. new
      #5265 - 04/06/03 10:23 PM
paintlady

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Posts: 95
Loc: Columbia, CA

Hi torbetta,
this is Paintlady and I just had to write about my experience with soy and cancer.
Eight years ago I had Breast cancer, that year many surgeries and 6 months of chemo and the whole time I consumed soy milk everyday. Still do, in fact have increased my soy intake to deal with menopause (few hotflashes because of the soy!) and I have been cancer free for eight (going on nine) years.

Just my experience,
Paintlady

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Re: Fiber Treatments in Canada new
      #5266 - 04/06/03 10:33 PM
louise

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Loc: canada

YOU BETCHA: All I can find is metamucil as well. I take the orange flavored kind and the taste is not so bad. For bloating, try fennel tea, Heather says that should help bloating. there are some posts on how to use it. Search archives for help.

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Re: Fiber Treatments in Canada new
      #5267 - 04/06/03 10:35 PM
louise

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I haven't bee n able to dind fiberrific here at all. Heather. Nobody seems to have heard of it.

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POLL new
      #5277 - 04/07/03 04:58 AM
Kimbo

Reged: 02/28/03
Posts: 114
Loc: Edmonton, AB, Canada

Could we take a poll to see what fiber treatment everyone uses? Call it curiosity or call it research!

**If you are feeling generous and want to contribute - would you hit reply to this message (POLL) and put in your subject line the name, flavor and form (powder, tablet, liquid) that you use??

It would be sooo awesome if everyone helped out on this one. I think it would assist a lot of people who are wondering which ones to try!

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POLL Benefiber Powder & Fibercon Pills new
      #5279 - 04/07/03 05:00 AM
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Re: POLL Benefiber Powder & Fibercon Pills new
      #5280 - 04/07/03 05:02 AM
Kimbo

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Loc: Edmonton, AB, Canada

Thanks for contributing!!

How's it working for you? Any complications?

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Re: This is false info...you're right to be suspicious. new
      #5292 - 04/07/03 07:19 AM
torbetta

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I was wondering if the information was correct or not. I didn't mean to imply she had a relaps because of the soy. I was more curous if her info. was acurate. I am glad you have been cancer free for almost nine years! That is great!

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Re: POLL- Metamucil Fiber Bars- taste like a cookie! new
      #5294 - 04/07/03 07:21 AM
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Benefiber Powder and Fibercon Pills for me too new
      #5296 - 04/07/03 07:51 AM
H2

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Loc: Ohio

I started out with Metamucil pills, but it made me pretty gassy. Thinking back, that could have just been my body getting used to having a fiber supplement, and I plan on trying it again now that I am used to taking fiber.

I have been having great results with Benefiber powder and Fibercon pills. I usually take Benefiber, but the pills are handy if I am away from home (shopping, etc.) I wouldn't recommend putting the Benefiber in straight water, there is a slight taste, but you can't taste it at all in tea or soup.

Kimbo - can you give me your name and mailing address? I'd be happy to ship you some samples of each so you can try them out. My email address is h2@h2studios.com.

--h2

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Re: POLL/Fibercon Caplets new
      #5297 - 04/07/03 07:53 AM
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Re: Fiber Treatments in Canada new
      #5310 - 04/07/03 11:29 AM
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Yes, I'm hearing that it's hard to find. I'm so sorry - it is available, but the manufacturer doesn't say where, just "health food stores". I think it may be more available in Eastern Canada than Western.

I'm on the verge of just carrying soluble fiber supplements through my website as they are so hard for so many people to find outside the US.

Best,
Heather

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Re: This is false info...you're right to be suspicious. new
      #5311 - 04/07/03 11:30 AM
HeatherAdministrator

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Thank you for sharing this. I'm really glad you're all better.

- Heather

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Re: Fiber Treatments in Canada new
      #5314 - 04/07/03 11:39 AM
H2

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That would be great if you did! Do you think that discounts are available if we order in bulk?

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Re: POLL- Lemon Fybogel sachets(ispaghula husk) new
      #5316 - 04/07/03 12:34 PM
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Re: POLL- Lemon Fybogel sachets(ispaghula husk) new
      #5330 - 04/07/03 02:10 PM
Snow for Sarala

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Sarah,

What exactly is this fiber...I've never heard of it! Lemon sounds nice...I'd love to more! Can you get it in the US? Thanks!!

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Re: Fiber Treatments in Canada new
      #5333 - 04/07/03 02:51 PM
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I don't know...I haven't planned anything so I haven't thought that far ahead! How much would you want at one time?

- H

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Re: Fiber Treatments in Canada new
      #5337 - 04/07/03 03:14 PM
H2

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I hadn't thought that far ahead either. I take Benefiber. A 6 oz. jar lasts me 8 or 9 days. I could probably buy a few months worth, if there were a bulk discount. I wonder if it comes in cases, and how many there are to a case?

Don't feel obligated to add this to your store on my account. I can get it at the grocery store. If you do decide to add it to your store though, I would be an excited customer.

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Re: Fibercon Pills - Sharon -nt- new
      #5356 - 04/07/03 05:14 PM
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Re: Fiber Treatments in Canada new
      #5361 - 04/07/03 05:27 PM
HeatherAdministrator

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They have Benefiber at Costco - I'm pretty sure it's a bigger jar than what you're getting. I love Benefiber, but I think it's overpriced considering it's just guar gum.

- H

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Re: POLL - Benefiber powder and Equalactin chewable tablets new
      #5395 - 04/07/03 09:25 PM
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Re: This is false info...you're right to be suspicious. new
      #5501 - 04/08/03 07:44 PM
paintlady

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Torbetta, Please don't feel bad I didn't take your question as implying soy caused relapse. This board is here for our questions. I just wanted to share my experience with soy. Your picture of you and your daughter is so cute.
Some day maybe I'll find photo of me I can use on this board
Paintlady

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Re: POLL- Lemon Fybogel sachets(ispaghula husk)- Ruchie new
      #5506 - 04/08/03 11:49 PM
britsarah

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Sorry, just saw the question!
I think ipsaghula husk is the same as psyllium husk that some people don't like, but I found after a week or so it suited me fine. There's orange or lemon sachets, and I find the lemon quite nice, a bit like homemade lemonade.
I get it on prescription (a lot cheaper!!!) but it is generally available over the counter at pharmacies so might be available in the US - perhaps Heather would know?...

Sarah

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Re: POLL- Lemon Fybogel sachets(ispaghula husk)- Ruchie new
      #5516 - 04/09/03 05:05 AM
Snow for Sarala

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Sarah,

Thanks!!! I'm definately interested in this product. Metamucill bothered me though--so I wonder if I should try it or not? Had you tried Metamucill first?

Thanks again Sarah!!! Hope you're doing well

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Re: POLL- Lemon Fybogel sachets(ispaghula husk)- Ruchie new
      #5610 - 04/09/03 11:23 PM
britsarah

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Ruchie,

I haven't tried metamucil. I must admit I took the first thing the doctor gave me, and it seems to be working. I have only seen my local doctor and haven't had any tests other than an internal, because I didn't want to make too much of a fuss, which I know is really bad but I figured that if this works I must be along the right lines. I also have a hypochondriac mother who is ALWAYS at the doctor's, so I don't want to end up like that!
Moan over! (mothers!!)
I'd quite like to try these tablets people have mentioned, they sound conveniant for when you're out - I had to go to a wine and cheese evening last night - drank wine, too many nibbles on an empty stomach then finished with deep fried fish and chips - why did I do it to myself??

Hope you're feeling better thaan I am!
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Re: POLL- Lemon Fybogel sachets(ispaghula husk)- Ruchie new
      #5629 - 04/10/03 05:23 AM
Snow for Sarala

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Sarah,

Thanks for getting back to me! Moaning is TOTALY allowed on this board--and encouraged How else are we supposed to release the stress exacerbating the IBS?

It is SO HARD when you're at a public gathering to steer clear of your triggers. This Monday at school we had a pizza party for my kindergarten class because they learned their letters A-Z! And guess what I did...I had some pizza (with a bit of cheese)! Can we say DISASTER?! I don't think I will ever eat pizza again (unless it's homemade). Live n' learn!

I hope you feel better today! Take care!
*hugs*

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Re: POLL-Thanks Ruchie! -nt- new
      #5642 - 04/10/03 08:42 AM
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Re: POLL - Fibercon - 2 tabs, 4 times a day new
      #5650 - 04/10/03 09:07 AM
Lisa37

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Fibercon - 2 tabs, 4 times a day

Edited by Lisa37 (04/10/03 09:09 AM)

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Re: POLL- Metamucil Fiber Bars- taste like a cookie! new
      #5651 - 04/10/03 09:12 AM
Lisa37

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OOOhhh that sounds good - I love cookies!

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