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What Is Going on with the so called diet
      #170954 - 04/18/05 02:48 PM
Volatile

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Alright, so I feel I have followed Heathers what to eat to eat when you can't anything very good.
I have been eating what she says for almost 3 days, and I STILL FEEL BLOATED.
Worse, when I eat the food which she said was safe, guess what, my stomach become bloated like I'm a couch potatoe.

I have no problem sacrificing food, as long as the bloating stops. I have a big problem when I sacrfice food, follow the diet, and I still feel bloated, directly after eating food which Heather made it sound like was safe to have.

Here is what I have eaten today

Meal 1 (9:50)
Bagel
3 Egg whites
8 oz water

Meal 2 (1:20)
Chicken and shrimp stir fry with squash, carrots, white Rice, and terkiyai sauce
Chicken and shrimp stir fry
Banana
16 oz water

Meal 3 (5:00)
Bagel
Turkey breast with mustard

I eat a bagel, guess what, I feel bloated right then.
I have absoleutley no patience whatsover for this.

Why did Heather list that it was alright to eat a bagel?
Why?
I eat a plain bagel like she said, I ran over 2 miles today, I am underweight, and guess what? I have a gut like a 60 year old.
Why the heck am I bloated, why did she mislead me into thinking eating a bagel would help?

I can not stand this bloating, I put too much time and effort into the gym and my diet to have be looking out of shape like this.
I want to know right now why I am bloated, why Heather's list is worng, and what I can to get this effin bloating OUT OF MY BODY.

FOR CRYIN OUT LOUD I AM A 21 year old who RUNS, I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO HAVE A BIG EFFIN GUT.
I have to wonder why I bother to sacrifce pizza or beef if in following what Heather has to offer I see no change.
STOP THE BLOATING NOW, tell me what to eat, I will eat it, just stop this bloating, I will not tolerate sacrifying food and still looking bloated if I am going to be bloated I might as well get drunk and have a good time.
I can't tolerate this, I can not stand someone telling me to eat a bagel, and then when I eat a bagel, I get bloated on the spot.

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Volatile... new
      #170961 - 04/18/05 03:06 PM
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You have to learn some patience. I don't know how many times it has been repeated to you that it takes time for this to work.
I have asked you twice about what your doctors have said and if you are on any medication, but you have not answered my questions.
Often, like I have said to you in the past, it takes more than JUST diet (and CERTAINLY more than 3 days) to get stable.
I take offense to your suggestion that Heather LIED to you, I think that was very rude and although we all sympathise with your frustrating, but Heather is trying to help people and the diet isn't WRONG, it doesn't work perfectly, it doesn't work alone and it doesn't change your attitude.

Speaking of which, I find your attitude to be so poor that I would assume it is one of the reasons you are having so much trouble. You continue to insinuate that we on the boards are MAKING you sacrifice your whole life, when we aren't making you do anything. We are trying to help you, full stop. If you don't want to take our advice, no one is forcing you. I agree with what someone else wrote in a previous post, you have to start taking responsibility.. So you don't want to learn how to cook? That's too bad. It sucks, but if you want to get better, you do it.
YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN TAKE CONTROL OF THE SITUATION.

It sucks, but you have to get to a point where you can say, "I have to deal with this, and being pissed off and feeling sorry for myself isn't going to change anything."
You have it pretty good compared to a lot of people I have spoken to in the past with IBS - You aren't housebound, you can work, you can socialise, you go to school... Count your blessings, because it could be a lot worse and you have support, which a lot of people don't.

Have you started the food diary we have all suggested to you? Have you asked at the school what the ingredients in the bagels are?
You might have to buy your OWN bagels, check the ingredients, and eat them if it comes to it. Not all bagels are made with the same stuff.
And it might not even be the bagel, you have to give this time.

We can be here to support you, but you need to respect the people that are taking time out of their lives to try and help you.
--Steph

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Re: What Is Going on with the so called diet new
      #170962 - 04/18/05 03:06 PM
Dia

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Sorry you're having so much trouble, but this isn't really the "can't eat anything" diet! You can find what's on this at:
What to Eat When You Can't Eat Anything

You might notice that it's ONLY soluable fiber foods. No meat, no mustard, etc.

And, btw, bagels are 100 per cent fine for me! Just put them on your personal "triger" list from now on.

Chin up!
Myra

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Listen, because I'm only going to say this once new
      #170963 - 04/18/05 03:08 PM
atomic rose

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YOU NEED TO BE PATIENT!

If you are looking for a fast miracle cure, you will not find it here. You will not find it ANYWHERE, because THERE IS NO CURE FOR IBS.

Bloating is one of the hardest symptoms to control. You will NOT have a cure for your bloating in 3 days, 3 weeks, or possibly even 3 months.

Heather did not "mislead" you into anything, so get that straight right now. Heather's diet WORKS for the people who are willing to understand it, follow it, and GIVE IT TIME TO WORK.

No, it isn't fair. LIFE isn't fair, kiddo. I've had IBS since I was 12, I never had your precious "college life", I've never been able to go out, have a good time, and just eat something without thinking about getting sick afterwards. It ISN'T fair, and it totally sucks, but you know what? Thinking that and whining about it doesn't change ANYTHING. You still have IBS.

You know what? Go ahead, go out, have a good time, get drunk, and suffer with your symptoms. If you don't care enough about yourself to make the necessary changes to help yourself feel better in the long run, how can you possibly expect US to give a sh*t?

PS - Bakery bagels sometimes have milk in them, which could be part of the problem. Try Thomas's.

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Steph new
      #170964 - 04/18/05 03:11 PM
atomic rose

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I appreciate what you're trying to do, but it's pointless. You'll drive yourself crazy trying to "help" this guy, repeating the same things over and over, when he's obviously not the slightest bit interested in helping himself.

Let it go. Save your sanity. When he's ready to stop having such a crappy attitude, the site and all of its wonderful information will still be here for him to read on his own. *hugs*

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Re: OMG Atomic Rose just blew up :-P lol new
      #170979 - 04/18/05 04:12 PM
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Rose you seem like you got a good sense of humor, hope you don't mind the pun..

Anyway, Volatile, (a great name for you I think! lol)
Guess what!!! Heather's Diet doesn't work for everyone, it workes partially for others, and fotunately work fabulously for a lot of people. I bought her book and acacia fiber, and it didn't work for me entirely.. But I found LATER that I don't have only IBS, and my first clue was using Heather's diet protocol to discover it.. I have been diagnosed with an auto-immune condition, (Behcet's which is Crohns like in it's intestinal issues symptom wise). So I discontinued all fiber, only use Miralax and follow a combo of Heather's diet and Gluten Free.. I was able to pin point my triggers with Heather's eating plan. You will have to try and by elimination know what your triggers are, I'd add "bagels" to my list if I were you, Oh, I also wondered if you are getting any foo-foo coffee drinks on your Starbuck's runs,,
There may be something tirggering in them if so, and also if you are drinking any soda, that might be another suspect for the bloating...


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Re: What Is Going on with the so called diet new
      #170985 - 04/18/05 04:32 PM
Snow for Sarala

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If you feel WORSE on Heather's diet...get tested for celiac. Heather's diet made me worse because I was eating gluten. Now I am gluten free AND doing Heather's diet and I feel GOOD.

I've had IBS since I was FIVE btw. I found Heather's diet after over 18 years of searching! Be thankful you found her at 21...

You will get better...if you want to and you try. There are people on here who have suffered for YEARS. Myself included. It has taken me since I was FIVE to learn I have a problem with gluten and I'm 26 now. I also have other illnesses as well. And I was sticking to Heather's diet and being patient and I STILL suffered because I had the wrong diagnosis.

Get tested. Be patient. Stick around.

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Volatile, I have to second what Atomic Rose told you, and also ask you new
      #170992 - 04/18/05 04:40 PM
HeatherAdministrator

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to please post each question that you have just once. I'm getting emails from folks on the board who are frustrated that you're posting the same thing over and over again on multiple threads, which takes up lots of board space. Just post each question once, and then watch that thread to see the answers you get.

I'll also second Ruchie - you need to be tested for celiac.

And you do need to have some patience, and see how things go, and possibly do some trial and error on your own. IBS is rarely black and white, so you need to find your own areas where there are shades of gray, and you can't do that overnight.

Best,
Heather

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Re: What Is Going on with the so called diet new
      #171003 - 04/18/05 05:16 PM
Computr821

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Volatile..

1) I echo everyone: BE PATIENT. I've been on this for about 6 months now, and not everything on the diet works for me. It will take time for you to figure out what affects YOU. Everyone has unique triggers. And check what's in the bagel; some have milk and many have High Fructose Corn Syrup.

2) Along those lines, have you been thoroughly checked out by a GI doctor? If all your doctor did was listen to your symptoms then say "Oh, it's IBS" I reccomend you switch doctors and get thorough testing including blood work. Celiac testing is a good idea too, especially if bloating from the bagel is something you've been dealing with for a long time.

3) How are you eating the egg whites in the morning? Is that an omelet or scrambled? And the stir fry...fried food is a bad idea. Even if the chicken and shrimp are OK, fried stuff isn't. Lay off that for a bit; it's not going to help.

Chill out. That's all.

Avidan

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You rock Casey! new
      #171039 - 04/18/05 06:55 PM
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I agree with every word you said, and then some.

Volatile, if you aren't happy with the diet, then try another one, please, and leave the boards for people who listen to the suggestions, take the time to read the responses, and don't clutter up the board with repetative questions and hostile posts.

I am in chronic pain 24 hours a day. I bloat everyday. I am constipated everyday and I have been at this for a heck of a lot longer than you. So be quiet for a while and read the info and educated yourself about IBS and the basics of this diet approach.

And again, if you are so unhappy with how this approach is working for you, then please go to another website and try a different diet. Are you Listening???

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Beth, I'm SO proud of you! *hugs* new
      #171042 - 04/18/05 07:09 PM
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Way to go assertive chica! Look at you! Hope you feel GREAT about yourself for being so honest and assertive!

YOU ROCK Miss Beth! *big hugs* (Of course, Casey does too!)

Love, Ruchie

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Re: What Is Going on with the so called diet new
      #171062 - 04/18/05 07:31 PM
Volatile

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I had a colonoscopy and many other tests done, all came back saying nothing about this.
How am I supposed to know what to eat or what's in the ingredients, I get my bagels from the cafeteria which does not list the ingredients.
I guess this means I have to spend more money buying my bagels from now on, and I can't buy them from a bagel store because they don't list their ingredients.
Bloating is my biggest problem, with constipation second.

I have no problem going on a bland diet, as long as it stops the bloating now. I have zero patience for going on a bland diet, and having my stomach explode each time I eat a meal.

I am hungry, but I don't what to eat, I just had a Turkey sandwich, which I am already tired of eating, on white bread which was fresh and I am bloated again.
I can't stand spending this much money on fresh food, scarfying this much, and still looking pregnenet when I put so much time at the gym, I may as well go have a steak.
If I am giving up this much food, dangit, get this bloating gone.

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Re: What Is Going on with the so called diet new
      #171066 - 04/18/05 07:35 PM
Volatile

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I don't feel worse, I feel only slightly better on Heather's diet. My bloating instead of making me look like 10 month pregnant mom, is now a 9 month pregnant mom, not nearly enough to call that anything good whatsoever.

I can't tolerate this bloating. I spend so much time in the gym, to have see all waste away because my stomach is being a B and wants to be bloated is absurd. Somebody make the bloating EFFIN STOP.
GEEZ, I CAN NOT STAND THE BLOATING. STOP BLOATING.

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Re: Listen, because I'm only going to say this once new
      #171068 - 04/18/05 07:38 PM
Volatile

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Atomic Rose, I'm scarred to have insolable fiber. I have discontinued insoluable fiber, and I don't think I want to go back on it for a long time, I just can't take the bloating. However, if sacrficying this much only improves me by a fingertip, then what's the use, I can not stand the bloating.

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Re: What Is Going on with the so called diet new
      #171072 - 04/18/05 07:42 PM
Snow for Sarala

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Your emotional outbursts and awful bloating sound like celiac to me. Please get tested. Thank you.

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Did I actually say that? new
      #171074 - 04/18/05 07:44 PM
Augie

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I'm such the passive type. But I'm definitely getting less inhibited as I get older. From a "people pleasing, perfectionistic, needs everyone to like me" person, it's difficult to open my mouth most times. But I wanted to back up my buddy Casey! And also try to get my feeling out instead of holding them in creating the Stress Monster from getting any bigger.

These posts have been stressing me out big time, for some reason. And it's hard to know the line between being assertive and coming off aggressive.

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Re: Volatile... new
      #171075 - 04/18/05 07:45 PM
Volatile

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They put me on Remorosa for a week, then took me off because the thought it caused me to be restless, maybe.
Otherwise, the semester is almost over and when it is I will be able to make my own food.
The problem is, I don't want to invest the time and effort if it's not going to pay off.
So far, the time and effort has not paid off. Think I'm volatile now, wait and see how am I after I spend hours cooking and still feel bloated.

Yeh I will sacrifice for this, I'll do a lot to get rid of the bloating, I am willing to what it takes, I just better get the bloating away if I am going to do it.

Tell me what I can do to stop the bloating and I will, I can't have a pregnant stomach. I can not justify eating this bland if I don't see the bloating stop soon as I need to stop the bloating.

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Re: Steph new
      #171077 - 04/18/05 07:48 PM
Volatile

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I don't know where you get off syaing that, have you read what I have said, did you not see how I said I have changed my diet? Yet you question my commitment? My problem is not what I have to sacrifice, my problem is what I have to sacrifice and then still looking like a pregnant mom. I'll do what you say, but it has to make the bloating go away. I can't keep having this bloating destroy my body.

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Re: What Is Going on with the so called diet new
      #171078 - 04/18/05 07:49 PM
Volatile

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Is celiac easier to treat, if so pray I have it. Do whatever it takes to get rid of the bloating.

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Re: Steph new
      #171080 - 04/18/05 07:55 PM
Stephie

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Volatile,

You seem to miss the point of almost every post someone on here writes to you.
It has been three days (maybe four now) and that is not long enough to make a difference, like we keep telling you. Yet you continue to post the same questions, over and over again. Yet you continue to disrespect what we are doing here. Yet you continue to whinge about how much it sucks for you - Do you get that we are ALL SICK? Yet we are trying to help you, and I don't know if you have even once seemed genuinely grateful for the support.

If you are going to carry on as you have been, I would take the other member of this board gave you and look elsewhere for advice. If you need a miracle cure, you won't find it anywhere... you definitely won't find it here, so you need to face facts.

No more 'poor me', we are all sick. But we are trying. And before you say how much you are giving up, just stop. A lot of us have given up way more than you have, and haven't taken the attitude you have.

Either stick around, take the advice here (QUIETLY!), and actually give it a chance to work and go somewhere else.
The End.
--Steph


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Volatile new
      #171083 - 04/18/05 07:58 PM
daliatree

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Volatile
I have been reading all your posts below and I really understand the frustration...we all do...I have suffered with IBS for 11 years, badly, and I am only 25. We all understand how we can work so hard to look nice and then bloat so much we can't fit into a pretty dress etc (eg my wedding day!!!). Its horrible.
Your tone, however, is putting some people off. Its aggressive and it seems like you are blaming people on this board for not 'fixing' you. It seems like you haven't had IBS for that long...because if you did, you would just KNOW that there is no quick easy way out of this and you need to change your philosophy. Your body is expressing something to you, you need to go down a path of 'discovery' as to what agrees with you and what doesn't - trial and error and very challenging. Try and let go a little (I know its hard) of the vanity of 'all the hours in the gym'....I was like that and have let it go. I go to the gym now for my health, TRUE health, not for how toned my abs look...because I know that one day I may not fit into my jeans but the next day may have D and they will fall down - Lord knows I may get stretch marks like pregnancy from all the changes in size!
I can promise you something - if you embrace instead of fight this whole 'discovery' process you are going to grow as a person. You are going to become a very sympathetic, empathetic individual, with greater depth...its happened to all of us at this board. Sometimes I am grateful for the IBS because it has taught me so much about suffering and the human spirit. And not to mention the absolutely FABULOUS friends I have made on this board...I am truly grateful. Heathers diet doesn't work for me very well...I may not even have IBS (still undergoing tests) but I will never forget the people here being there for me in the hardest times. Embrace it...I promise that being positive makes this process much easier and more inspiring.
Good luck.

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      #171085 - 04/18/05 08:00 PM
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Re: Volatile... new
      #171086 - 04/18/05 08:00 PM
Snow for Sarala

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Try going gluten free. BUT you have to give it at LEAST a month to see ANY results AND you have to make sure no gluten sneaks up in your food. I am willing to help...BUT I will not take yelling. Complaining yes...yelling/half cursing, no.

Healing takes time. If a person has eaten things thata re bad for them for years/months...their bod needs time to get it all out. Give your bod time...

You can do this. Patiently...

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Shelby new
      #171090 - 04/18/05 08:03 PM
Stephie

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... and we're proud to have you!!

I second everything you said.
--Steph

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Hahaha... you DID! new
      #171099 - 04/18/05 08:06 PM
atomic rose

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And I love it!

Assertive is a good thing... and even aggressive has its place. Either way, I'm glad you got my back. I was kind of worried that I was a little out of line, even if I knew I was saying what everyone else was thinking anyway!

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dalia new
      #171100 - 04/18/05 08:08 PM
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dalia! your post is awesome, and you said it in the nicest way possible.

I can tell you're great to be around, and an awesome person.

I know almost everyone on this board has been frustrated before and made comments about the diet not working in the past, so I understand what it feels like for him, and I am totally empathetic.

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wow! new
      #171108 - 04/18/05 08:18 PM
daliatree

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you are so sweet for saying that...what a huge compliment...thank you! :-)XXXXX

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3 days time new
      #171171 - 04/18/05 11:38 PM
Snow for Sarala

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is but a moment in a life.

Give it 3 months, no cheating. Then we'll talk.

It takes more than 3 days to figure out the diet! I can't imagine you ate ZERO trigger foods in those 3 days.



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Re: Hahaha... you DID! new
      #171173 - 04/18/05 11:42 PM
Snow for Sarala

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Beth and Casey,
I applaud you both!

In this case...being nice was not being HEARD. Unfortunate,but true.

Hopefully V will learn from this. And grow. But if we kept our mouths shut...she wouldn't. You ladies ROCK!

And STEPHIE! I just love ya to bits! You are just amazing!

THREE CHEERS for the THREE LADIES!!!!!!

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Some info. for V new
      #171181 - 04/19/05 12:20 AM
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Symptoms

Because celiac disease affects different people differently, symptoms and their severity can vary. Some symptoms may not seem related to the digestive system, but lack of nutrients can affect every part of the body.

Children generally develop symptoms only after they start eating foods that contain gluten. Common symptoms include:

Upset stomach
Failure to grow normally (often called "failure to thrive") or delayed growth
Weight loss
Painful abdominal bloating or distention
Pale, foul-smelling, greasy stools
Chronic (long-lasting) or recurring diarrhea
Irritability
In adults, symptoms may be mild or severe and can include:

Chronic diarrhea that does not get better with medication
Foul-smelly, greasy, pale stool
Gassiness
Recurring abdominal bloating
Weight loss
Fatigue
Infertility, lack of menstruation
Bone or joint pain
Depression, irritability or mood changes
Neurological problems, including weakness, poor balance, seizures, headaches, or numbness or tingling in the legs
Itchy, painful skin rash (dermatitis herpetiformis)
Tooth discoloration or loss of enamel, sores on lips or tongue
Other signs of vitamin deficiency, such as scaly skin or hyperkeratosis (from lack of vitamin A), or bleeding gums or bruising easily (from lack of vitamin K)
Diagnosis

Celiac disease often is difficult to diagnose because the symptoms can be similar to those of other, more common diseases and may involve many parts of the body. In most cases, diagnostic tests for other gastrointestinal disorders will be ordered first to look for other, more common causes of diarrhea and other symptoms before celiac disease is considered.

If your doctor suspects celiac disease, he or she may recommend a biopsy of the intestine. In this test, a tiny piece of tissue is removed and examined under a microscope. The physician will look for damage to the tiny villi, which will appear flatter or more stunted than villi taken from a healthy intestine. He or she also will look for inflammatory cells often found beneath abnormal villi.

Blood tests to look for specific antibodies (anti-gliadin, anti-endomysial and anti-tissue transglutaminase) are very accurate for diagnosing celiac disease because these antibodies often are found in people with the disorder and rarely are found in healthy people. Because many people with celiac disease also have anemia, blood tests for iron deficiency also may be done.

The diagnosis can be confirmed based on the results of the biopsy and blood tests, as well as whether your condition improves when you avoid gluten.

Expected Duration

Celiac disease will last as long as you continue to eat gluten. If a person with celiac disease follows a strict gluten-free diet, the intestines can heal and the disease can be controlled.

Prevention

Because celiac disease is a genetic disorder, you cannot do anything to prevent it. Some studies suggest that if celiac disease runs in your family, you may be able to prevent or lessen the effects of the disease in your children by breastfeeding for as long as possible.

Symptoms and intestinal damage in a person diagnosed with celiac disease can be prevented by following a strict, gluten-free diet.

I got this info. from:
http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/WSIHW000/9339/9681.html#symptoms

P.S. This site is a bit behind the times. Many folks with celiac (I have not been diagnosed but I can't eat ANY gluten or I get VERY sick), have C not D. There are tons of symptoms they don't list there.

But everyone knows BLOATING and emotional outbursts are MAJOR symptoms of celaic. If I eat gluten...watch out. I'm an emotional basket case!



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Re: Steph new
      #171187 - 04/19/05 12:41 AM
Jennifer1946

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Volatile, I had IBS since I was a kid and those days we never heard of IBS. The doctors just gave us medicines, we felt better and started all over again. It is only now since May 2004 that my doctor finally told me I have IBS and after much searching I found this forum. I am 58 yrs. now and since then I am looking at all the recipes and trying them out but sometimes something goes wrong. I am IBS-D and while the 'D' has stopped, I still have a bloated stomach. I read in another forum that I should not drink water in between meals and to wait for an hour before I drink water. This has helped me a bit. I take Eplayzme syrup in the morning which aids digestion. I am told to sleep on my stomach to get the bloating down. I know that some day all this will not worry me so much. You too will have to be patient and continue to use the recipes on the board. You will get there but please dont blame anyone as differenct people respond differently. Getting agitated could make you feel worse. Try doing some tummy exercises.

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      #171192 - 04/19/05 01:35 AM
heather7476

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I have not read all the responses to this so excuse me if I repeat anything.
Have you tried taking gas x regulary. I had to take if for about four days before my bloat started to go. After a month it was gone and I was able to back off on the gas x from 6 to 8 tablets a day to 2 to 4 a day.
Just a thought.

Here is another thought
We are here to help, BUT you need to calm down adn show a little more respect for everyone. We all have this you are not the only one.We support each other through times like this on these boards we do not attack each other.
I hope your feeling better soon.


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Wowee Dalia! new
      #171210 - 04/19/05 03:07 AM
Linz

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Can we all come have therapy at your place? You are soooo sorted. Love ya!

PS. Still off the sugar! I relapsed at the w/e and felt AWFUL. Si's now stopping me eating it even when I want to as he doesn't like a grumpy wife.

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Re: Volatile... new
      #171252 - 04/19/05 03:53 AM
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I had another thought -- a lot of places will put dairy in their turkey lunchmeat. I read the package in my store. You may need to stick to chicken breast instead for your sandwich. Maybe that will help. Dairy is a big trigger for gas & bloating. You also could try using a digestive enzyme to help. It doesn't mean that you can eat the things that are bad like dairy and fatty foods -- but it does mean that what you do eat will be better digested by your body. The one I take also has a gas fighting ingedient in it. It's called Digest Support. I actually take two pills twice a day --- I take it with lunch and supper -- but they suggest taking two pills a day and you could take one pill with lunch and one with supper... or one with each meal. Just don't try and break the rules because you are taking them. It won't make it okay to eat dairy products for example. Here's a link that talks about them. I order mine off the internet because I live in a small town - but you may be able to find it.

http://www.natrol.com/products/product.php?sku=885


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Re: Wowee Dalia! new
      #171261 - 04/19/05 04:36 AM
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Linz you are so cute! Congrats on the sugar thing...I had a half a bar of dark chocchie yesterday and feel like CRAP!!!! It was yummy though...My husband doesn't like me cheating on food because he knows it makes me moody too - but hey, we have to eat the naughty stuff once in a while eh?
XXXX Dalia

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      #171277 - 04/19/05 05:58 AM
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In reading your original post and some of your responses I am not sure that IBS/Bloat is your primary issue here. IBS is a pain...I too am thin and hate to be bloated but instead of becoming angry (your nik alone is somewhat scary) and lashing out at the very community that will rally around you and do their best to help you should look within yourself and see if IBS is the only problem.

You mention running two miles...your body...etc. etc. Is self-image the culprit here? It seems that IBS is not the ONLY thing getting you down.

Take time to be still and listen to your body mind and spirit...if you have God in your life pray. I have had IBS for over 20 years and Heathers diet does not work for me but it works for plenty of others. I have learned to identify trigger foods and don't eat them, I eat little yeast or refined sugar and I do very well. I am a strong believer in God and my faith has seen me through the worse times.

What I don't do is spend a lot of time belly-aching (no pun intended)and I press on to living a lifestyle where I can eat without pain. I hope that you can do the same. I am sorry that you are hurting and bloating...look to YOUR cure, you can do it!

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Ruchie, you are so good for my self-esteem! new
      #171315 - 04/19/05 07:33 AM
Augie

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I love you, sweetie!

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Casey (Atomic Rose) - Thanks. -nt- new
      #171333 - 04/19/05 07:48 AM
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Re: Just as a point of reference new
      #171423 - 04/19/05 10:57 AM
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I empathize with your frustration. And as many have said...we've been there. For once, you're encoutered a group who actually understands, so you don't have to prove your pain here. We know...

I've been on this diet for only about a month, and I it hasn't been perfect yet, but it's been so much better. It was a gradual thing, so have patience. I just got back from visiting several colleges, so I thought some things I experiences might help you...

Regarding the turkey sandwich...
I have been eating turkey sandwiches at home, on my bread, with my turkey, etc. with no problem. I chose that as a "safe food" while traveling and had problems with it several places. I was fairly pro-active, asking questions and such, but sometimes it is very hard to find the people who really knew the answers. The turkey might have dairy injected in it, the bread might be made with milk, or brushed with butter. Those are all things that it is *so* hard to know. Just because I can buy turkey and sourdough, or french bread that is safe, doesn't mean that *all* turkey or bread is safe.

The same is true with the bagel. I eat Pepperidge Fram Bagels, and they are safe for me. I ate a bagel (plain, no crazy flavors, no cream cheese, no butter or anything) at a "continental breakfast buffet" type place, and was instantly bloated. Those bagels obviously weren't safe for me. Lesson learned, but that doesn't mean that I can never eat bagels again. Just that I need to be able to read the ingredients, before I decide if the bagel is safe for me.

I also ate chicken teriyaki this weekend, because I know that teriyaki sauce is generally fate free (and fat is a big trigger for me). The sauce was fine, and the rice was fine, but at this restruant, the chicken was cooked using butter, and the waitress didn't know this. Enter the diarrhea and bloating.

As you can see, even when you make the best choices you can, things can still slip by, which would explain your symptoms. As for eating at a college cafeteria, the best advice I know is to try dry cereal. Most cafs have big dispensors of name brand cereal (clearly labeled) so you can look the ingredients of that brand of cereal up online and make clearer decisions about whether or not they are safe. As a warning, General Mills has now switched so that all their cereals are whole grain, so avoid those until you know if it is a trigger. Kellogs, Post, and other cereals are safer. Choose cereals such as Rice Krispies, Corn Pops etc. Stay away from anything called "bran" or anything with dried fruit, as that is also harder to digest.

So colleges have sandwich bars, with the bread still in the bags, so you could read the ingredients, but yours may not.

Another thing that is *generally* safe is a truly plain baked potato. If it is wrapped into alluminium, and not split open yet, it is a safe bet that no butter or other trigger has been stuffed in. Peal off the skin and just eat the white part.

Also, you may want to avoid the veggies until you are more stable. Also, the "berry" type of fruits. Bananas, applesauce, potatoes, sweet potatoes, are better choices.

Good luck with this, I know it can be hard. I'm just starting myself. But, be patience, and try not to alienate the truly wise people on the board here. This is probably your best resource, and offending people here puts you in a bad place.

Thanks to all of you out there....I don't know what I would do without you....

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LOL!! new
      #171468 - 04/19/05 12:40 PM
atomic rose

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I just noticed this post... hey, it made me crack up! Now I'm visualizing mushroom clouds coming out of the top of my head... which is pretty much how I FELT anyway! Heh.

Thanks for the giggle!

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Re: What Is Going on with the so called diet new
      #171520 - 04/19/05 02:02 PM
MikeE

Reged: 03/31/05
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Not sure you'll get this post through all the noise, but it sounds to me, like others have said, that you may have CD, a Gluten Intolerance or potentially Microscopic/Lymphocytic Colitis.

I say this because you're pretty much eating wheat/gluten all day. Try cutting it out for a while and see if the bloating goes away or is less.

Mike

PS. And chill with the posts/questions, you're more likely to get answers if you don't post so many. After a while people are going to ignore your posts.

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Re: Ruchie, you are so good for my self-esteem! new
      #171530 - 04/19/05 02:43 PM
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Backatchya...smooches!

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