What Is Going on with the so called diet
#170954 - 04/18/05 02:48 PM
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Alright, so I feel I have followed Heathers what to eat to eat when you can't anything very good.
I have been eating what she says for almost 3 days, and I STILL FEEL BLOATED.
Worse, when I eat the food which she said was safe, guess what, my stomach become bloated like I'm a couch potatoe.
I have no problem sacrificing food, as long as the bloating stops. I have a big problem when I sacrfice food, follow the diet, and I still feel bloated, directly after eating food which Heather made it sound like was safe to have.
Here is what I have eaten today
Meal 1 (9:50)
Bagel
3 Egg whites
8 oz water
Meal 2 (1:20)
Chicken and shrimp stir fry with squash, carrots, white Rice, and terkiyai sauce
Chicken and shrimp stir fry
Banana
16 oz water
Meal 3 (5:00)
Bagel
Turkey breast with mustard
I eat a bagel, guess what, I feel bloated right then.
I have absoleutley no patience whatsover for this.
Why did Heather list that it was alright to eat a bagel?
Why?
I eat a plain bagel like she said, I ran over 2 miles today, I am underweight, and guess what? I have a gut like a 60 year old.
Why the heck am I bloated, why did she mislead me into thinking eating a bagel would help?
I can not stand this bloating, I put too much time and effort into the gym and my diet to have be looking out of shape like this.
I want to know right now why I am bloated, why Heather's list is worng, and what I can to get this effin bloating OUT OF MY BODY.
FOR CRYIN OUT LOUD I AM A 21 year old who RUNS, I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO HAVE A BIG EFFIN GUT.
I have to wonder why I bother to sacrifce pizza or beef if in following what Heather has to offer I see no change.
STOP THE BLOATING NOW, tell me what to eat, I will eat it, just stop this bloating, I will not tolerate sacrifying food and still looking bloated if I am going to be bloated I might as well get drunk and have a good time.
I can't tolerate this, I can not stand someone telling me to eat a bagel, and then when I eat a bagel, I get bloated on the spot.
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Volatile...
#170961 - 04/18/05 03:06 PM
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Stephie
Reged: 03/10/04
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Loc: Vancouver, Canada
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You have to learn some patience. I don't know how many times it has been repeated to you that it takes time for this to work.
I have asked you twice about what your doctors have said and if you are on any medication, but you have not answered my questions.
Often, like I have said to you in the past, it takes more than JUST diet (and CERTAINLY more than 3 days) to get stable.
I take offense to your suggestion that Heather LIED to you, I think that was very rude and although we all sympathise with your frustrating, but Heather is trying to help people and the diet isn't WRONG, it doesn't work perfectly, it doesn't work alone and it doesn't change your attitude.
Speaking of which, I find your attitude to be so poor that I would assume it is one of the reasons you are having so much trouble. You continue to insinuate that we on the boards are MAKING you sacrifice your whole life, when we aren't making you do anything. We are trying to help you, full stop. If you don't want to take our advice, no one is forcing you. I agree with what someone else wrote in a previous post, you have to start taking responsibility.. So you don't want to learn how to cook? That's too bad. It sucks, but if you want to get better, you do it.
YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN TAKE CONTROL OF THE SITUATION.
It sucks, but you have to get to a point where you can say, "I have to deal with this, and being pissed off and feeling sorry for myself isn't going to change anything."
You have it pretty good compared to a lot of people I have spoken to in the past with IBS - You aren't housebound, you can work, you can socialise, you go to school... Count your blessings, because it could be a lot worse and you have support, which a lot of people don't.
Have you started the food diary we have all suggested to you? Have you asked at the school what the ingredients in the bagels are?
You might have to buy your OWN bagels, check the ingredients, and eat them if it comes to it. Not all bagels are made with the same stuff.
And it might not even be the bagel, you have to give this time.
We can be here to support you, but you need to respect the people that are taking time out of their lives to try and help you.
--Steph
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~~I'm not crazy, I'm just a little unwell-I know right now you can't tell~~Matchbox 20
IBS-D,pain.
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Sorry you're having so much trouble, but this isn't really the "can't eat anything" diet! You can find what's on this at:
What to Eat When You Can't Eat Anything
You might notice that it's ONLY soluable fiber foods. No meat, no mustard, etc.
And, btw, bagels are 100 per cent fine for me! Just put them on your personal "triger" list from now on.
Chin up!
Myra
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YOU NEED TO BE PATIENT!
If you are looking for a fast miracle cure, you will not find it here. You will not find it ANYWHERE, because THERE IS NO CURE FOR IBS.
Bloating is one of the hardest symptoms to control. You will NOT have a cure for your bloating in 3 days, 3 weeks, or possibly even 3 months.
Heather did not "mislead" you into anything, so get that straight right now. Heather's diet WORKS for the people who are willing to understand it, follow it, and GIVE IT TIME TO WORK.
No, it isn't fair. LIFE isn't fair, kiddo. I've had IBS since I was 12, I never had your precious "college life", I've never been able to go out, have a good time, and just eat something without thinking about getting sick afterwards. It ISN'T fair, and it totally sucks, but you know what? Thinking that and whining about it doesn't change ANYTHING. You still have IBS.
You know what? Go ahead, go out, have a good time, get drunk, and suffer with your symptoms. If you don't care enough about yourself to make the necessary changes to help yourself feel better in the long run, how can you possibly expect US to give a sh*t?
PS - Bakery bagels sometimes have milk in them, which could be part of the problem. Try Thomas's.
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Steph
#170964 - 04/18/05 03:11 PM
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atomic rose
Reged: 06/01/04
Posts: 7013
Loc: Maine (IBS-A stable since July '05!)
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I appreciate what you're trying to do, but it's pointless. You'll drive yourself crazy trying to "help" this guy, repeating the same things over and over, when he's obviously not the slightest bit interested in helping himself.
Let it go. Save your sanity. When he's ready to stop having such a crappy attitude, the site and all of its wonderful information will still be here for him to read on his own. *hugs*
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Rose you seem like you got a good sense of humor, hope you don't mind the pun.. 
Anyway, Volatile, (a great name for you I think! lol)
Guess what!!! Heather's Diet doesn't work for everyone, it workes partially for others, and fotunately work fabulously for a lot of people. I bought her book and acacia fiber, and it didn't work for me entirely.. But I found LATER that I don't have only IBS, and my first clue was using Heather's diet protocol to discover it.. I have been diagnosed with an auto-immune condition, (Behcet's which is Crohns like in it's intestinal issues symptom wise). So I discontinued all fiber, only use Miralax and follow a combo of Heather's diet and Gluten Free.. I was able to pin point my triggers with Heather's eating plan. You will have to try and by elimination know what your triggers are, I'd add "bagels" to my list if I were you,  Oh, I also wondered if you are getting any foo-foo coffee drinks on your Starbuck's runs,,
There may be something tirggering in them if so, and also if you are drinking any soda, that might be another suspect for the bloating...
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If you feel WORSE on Heather's diet...get tested for celiac. Heather's diet made me worse because I was eating gluten. Now I am gluten free AND doing Heather's diet and I feel GOOD.
I've had IBS since I was FIVE btw. I found Heather's diet after over 18 years of searching! Be thankful you found her at 21...
You will get better...if you want to and you try. There are people on here who have suffered for YEARS. Myself included. It has taken me since I was FIVE to learn I have a problem with gluten and I'm 26 now. I also have other illnesses as well. And I was sticking to Heather's diet and being patient and I STILL suffered because I had the wrong diagnosis.
Get tested. Be patient. Stick around.
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Formerly known as Ruchie
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to please post each question that you have just once. I'm getting emails from folks on the board who are frustrated that you're posting the same thing over and over again on multiple threads, which takes up lots of board space. Just post each question once, and then watch that thread to see the answers you get.
I'll also second Ruchie - you need to be tested for celiac.
And you do need to have some patience, and see how things go, and possibly do some trial and error on your own. IBS is rarely black and white, so you need to find your own areas where there are shades of gray, and you can't do that overnight.
Best,
Heather
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Heather is the Administrator of the IBS Message Boards. She is the author of Eating for IBS and The First Year: IBS, and the CEO of Heather's Tummy Care. Join her IBS Newsletter. Meet Heather on Facebook!
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Volatile..
1) I echo everyone: BE PATIENT. I've been on this for about 6 months now, and not everything on the diet works for me. It will take time for you to figure out what affects YOU. Everyone has unique triggers. And check what's in the bagel; some have milk and many have High Fructose Corn Syrup.
2) Along those lines, have you been thoroughly checked out by a GI doctor? If all your doctor did was listen to your symptoms then say "Oh, it's IBS" I reccomend you switch doctors and get thorough testing including blood work. Celiac testing is a good idea too, especially if bloating from the bagel is something you've been dealing with for a long time.
3) How are you eating the egg whites in the morning? Is that an omelet or scrambled? And the stir fry...fried food is a bad idea. Even if the chicken and shrimp are OK, fried stuff isn't. Lay off that for a bit; it's not going to help.
Chill out. That's all.
Avidan
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Why'd you have to go and make me so constipated?
--'Weird' Al Yankovic, "A Complicated Song"
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I agree with every word you said, and then some.
Volatile, if you aren't happy with the diet, then try another one, please, and leave the boards for people who listen to the suggestions, take the time to read the responses, and don't clutter up the board with repetative questions and hostile posts.
I am in chronic pain 24 hours a day. I bloat everyday. I am constipated everyday and I have been at this for a heck of a lot longer than you. So be quiet for a while and read the info and educated yourself about IBS and the basics of this diet approach.
And again, if you are so unhappy with how this approach is working for you, then please go to another website and try a different diet. Are you Listening???
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~ Beth
Constipation, pain prodominent,cramps, spasms and bloat!
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