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Hi Sheri01,
My goodness. So thorough and complete. I'm going to print yours out so that I can refer to it often. Thank you soooo much. I'm still eating egg whites. Whole Foods puts out a liquid egg substitute in their dairy section. I vascillate about going completely Vegan because I've been told that the body has a natural reserve of B12 for five to ten years and then your body will show serious set backs. What Dr. Gabriel Cousins said is that we can get Vitamin B12 through making "Kefir" from seeds and nuts. LifeWay puts out Kefir Starter for something like $2.39 a packet. But you need to invest the time to presoak the nuts and to take the resulting milk and ferment it over a period of days. This resulting mixture is probiotic and enzyme rich and helps to line the intestines with healthy flora...but I haven't had the time to order it yet. So when I try it,I'll let folks know how it worked for me.
So I'm hearing: I can have Tofu (baked), beans and tempeh...but I imagine I need to stay away from the Seitan because that's basically wheat gluten, and I have a mild problem with Wheat unless it's sprouted...then I seem to be OK with it.
I'm going to check out those web sites you talked to me about. Thanks so much. I am so grateful to have happened upon this site. I have been suffering with IBS for years, and I have been able to cope with it because the bouts were not so close together as to be unbearable...but the last five years, the stress (career changes and disappointments) has taken its toll on my body and my IBS/IBD has become more persistent and life debilitating. So I am deeply grateful to have this online support system. Thank you sooooo much.  )
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Hi Meredith,
Thanks so much for responding to my quest as to how to integrate Heather's IBS diet to a Vegan lifestyle.
I was afraid about the weight gain...but I'm thinking as you are...that I have to do what I have to do to get this condition under control...then I can figure out a way to work on portion sizes so I can lose the weight. I'm 5'1 and bulging in a Size 12...so I would really like to lose the extra weight if I could while helping my tummy to feel better. I just got both of Heather's books today so I'm going to climb in and see what kinds of menus I can come up with that will make this work. I'm going to try your menu ideas. Thanks so much for your counsel.
Sheryl
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Hi Laura,
It's great to meet you in Cyberland. Thanks for alleviating my concern about the Candida risk with increased white flour consumption. There are so many theories that abound about the causation of Candida. Of course, stress is a biggie. Interestingly enough, I've recently heard from a Raw Foodist...that Candida may be caused by a high fat intake combined with high sugar intake. It's not the increase in sugar that's the issue..but increasing fat consumption along with the sugar that's the issue...this is Doug Grahms contention. And here we are learning that high fat hurts our IBS condition. So just by limiting our fat consumption we'll be alleviating Candida overgrowth and our IBS symtoms. Sounds like a plan to me.
Thanks for your welcome to the message board.
Kind regards,
Sheryl
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Sheryl- B12
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Glad to be of service!
I have read that although it is EXTREMELY rare to have a shortage of B12, it is very serious. they make tablets, lozenges that dissolve under the tongue are popular amongst vegans, but the only ones I found had sorbitol in them, which is an IBS trigger. There may be IBS safe alternatves, but that is something I have not yet set my focus on.
The book that helped me the most was "BEcoming a vegetarian for Dummies" By Suzanne Havala. I know, I know, it sounds silly, but it is REALLY good and full of information. I borrowed it from my local library. I picked it up off of the shelf as a joke, then wound up taking it home cause I couldn't put it down! havala is a respected nutionist in the vegetarian community. There are sperate "vegan" sections in the book, too.
Anything that I thought I knew about vegan/vegetarianism before I picked up that book, I really didnt know much! So much dietary info in that book. helps that I learned Heather's diet really well, I could apply that to the veggie info.
If I find out more about the B12, I'll let you know.
Oh, and you don't need to bake tofu, I just like it that way... Another EASY good recipe you can look at is on the REcipe board on the recipe index, and is called Berry Smoothie or something of the sort. It has tofu, fruit , and soymilk in it. It was posted by TessLouise, I think.
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Hi Sara-Sage,
Wow...lots of Vegans here online. How wonderful. I have to admit, I really wanted to make it work as a Raw Vegan. I have a Raw Vegan Cafe near where I live and their advice seemed so sound...but as I increased my raw food consumption, the more my IBS kicked into high gear. From lunchtime till the time I went to bed for days on end, I can't tell you how I suffered...I experienced my peristalysis completely stalled...with lots of bloating. I was told that I was in a "cleansing", "detoxification" stage and that these symptoms would subside in a couple of weeks...well it's been eight months and no relief in sight. I wasn't consistent with the regimine. I have to admit that I did cheat on occasion. But I see now from reading Heather's guidelines that for a person with my condition, I need to greatly modify my regimine. I will cautiously introduce some soy into the diet. I think I am entering into Menopause right now...so it may be safe. When I was in Periomenopause when my Estrogen was spiking, I was eating a lot of soy and I think that I caused my Estrodial count to go through the roof...soy contains phyto-estrogens and with all of the false estrogens we have coming into our bodies from a polluted environment, my adding soy six days a week into my diet caused me to have an excess of estrogen in my body...not a good thing... So I cut out soy completely. But maybe I'll bring it back and eat it sparingly.
Thanks. It's nice to make your acquaintenance.
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Thanks. I'll look into what Whole Foods has in that area for B12.
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Hi Sheryl, nice to meet you too. 
I know. I wanted to do the raw thing too but it just doesn't work for us IBS-ers. Some raw foods might still be ok though. I can have baby carrots, cucumber and a couple other things. But juicing is still a great way to do raw foods. I have found it to be safe in my situation. 
Yes, I have heard that soy can cause trouble for women. Although if you're entering menopause, I have read that it can help with hot flashes. It can adversely affect thyroid problems too.
Anyhow, you're got lost of info from us friendly vegans! Good luck and ask any of us anything you'd like.
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The vegan diet will put you at risk for B12 deficiency, but if you have intestinal troubles, you can get low on B12 even eating lots of meats and dairy. The only place in your whole system that will absorb dietary B12 is the lower portion of the upper intestine (get it?). The lower portion of my upper intestine is GONE! (surgery) so I'm sorta screwt for B12 and have to have a shot every month. (Fortunately I can do it myself so it doesn't cost me a dr. visit every month.)
If you get pretty low on B12 you will feel really bad, and it doesn't take long at all and some PERMANENT nerve damage can set in. This is not something to mess about with. If in doubt at all, get some blood drawn and hike it to the lab and have your B12 checked. Before I started the shots, my lab results came back so low that my doc said she was surprised I could even stand up.
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not bad, and if anything it will alleviate menopause symptoms, not worsen them. Soy contains phytoestrogens - these can lock onto estrogen receptors in the body in place of real estrogen, which means that the real estrogen will be excreted at a higher rate. This what you want, because it lowers the net amount of estrogen circulating in the body. Lower estrogen = lower breast cancer rates. As an aside here, the people with the highest soy consumption rate in entire world are the Okinawans, in Japan. They are also the longest-lived people in the world, and they have some of the lowest breast and reproductive cancer rates. They also have pretty much zero problems with menopause. It's thought that soy is one of the main reasons for this.
So, do your own research here, check your sources of information, make sure you're looking at double-blind studies published by legitimate clinical researchers. When you do that, the evidence in favor of soy, especially for women (but also for men - it lowers prostate cancer and protects against heart disease) is overwhelming.
- Heather
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I have not had any problem with B12 deficency since I became a vegan a year ago.
About 6 months into being vegan, I had a full panel of blood tests done to make sure I was ok. I had heard so many things about what "could" happen to vegans. Turns out, I was fine, even my B12 was fine.
If you are drinking/using fortified foods, it shouldn't be any problem. Find a doctor who is a vegetarian (I looked for Indian surnames in my PPO directory and started calling around to ask, since so many Indians are veg) and have them do your physical, if you have one.
Best suggestion, though, is to find the book Becoming Vegan by Vesanto Melina--you will find everything you need to know about health and veganism--it's not an easy read but it is so helpful.
And just remember, while vegans have some specific health concerns to keep in mind, we often have low cholesterol, and lower cancer rates/illness rates than other groups. I for one have not had a cold since I became vegan, after having at least 3 colds every winter since I was a kid.
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