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Vicam

Reged: 02/24/04
Posts: 1955
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Non-dairy liquid meal supplements?
#95220 - 08/02/04 10:29 PM

Hey Guys,

Does anyone know if there are any non-dairy meal supplement drinks out there? Something along the lines of boost or ensure, but without the dairy? I know you can get soy protein powders and things like that, but my docs really want me taking something that's more like a complete meal substitute and I'm kinda lost.

I asked my pharamacist and they gave me a thing of Glucerna which is for diabetics, and said it was probably the best one of the ones they carried. The thing is, there are so many ingredients and I'm just starting to learn what to look for on labels, I don't know if it's ok. Does anyone else know? One of the ingredients is calcium caseinates and that's the one that was making me nervous. Here's a link if anyone is willing to check it out, it's pretty long though: http://rpdcon40.ross.com/mn/Ross+MN+Nutritional+Products.nsf/web_Ross.com_XML/3975C95C7CEB4D4F8525663C00683BFC?OpenDocument#Ingredients

Any opinions as to whether this is safe or recommendations for other brands would be great!
Thanks,
Kelly

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RachelT

Reged: 07/01/04
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Loc: Minnesota
Re: Non-dairy liquid meal supplements? new
#95275 - 08/03/04 07:56 AM

I don't think I'll be a lot of help, but Casein is a dairy dirivative. I'm a C, and it bothers me. So, with that said, there's a good chance that this will probably cause problems. Hope this helps a little, at least.

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atomic rose

Reged: 06/01/04
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Re: Non-dairy liquid meal supplements? new
#95278 - 08/03/04 08:06 AM

I'm not going to be much help either. I'll second what Rachel says, that casein is a dairy derivative and it bothers some people. I know Kandee has said that they add things to those drinks to make them digestible even by people who are lactose-intolerant, but of course we're concerned with more than just the lactose. I'm scared to death to try them, but you might think it's worth the risk at this point... hard to say.

I know Heather will probably recommend the Amazake rice shakes instead, but I finally found them at the health food store, checked them out, and they're basically (very overpriced) rice milk and fruit. They do have some vitamins and nutrients, but no more than you'd get from making a smoothie at home using vitamin-enriched rice milk and a mango.

I might go back to the HFS today and check out a few things... there are some powders that are more than just a protein shake, that I remember from the days when I worked at GNC... I'll check them out and report on what I find. There HAS to be a vegan liquid meal replacement out there!

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KellyAndersson

Reged: 03/24/04
Posts: 272
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Re: Non-dairy liquid meal supplements? new
#95388 - 08/03/04 02:14 PM


Try these:
Spiru-Tein shakes
SPIRU-TEIN PROTEIN SHAKES

Lots of other flavors available.


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KellyAndersson

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No casein in SPIRU-TEIN new
#95390 - 08/03/04 02:19 PM



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atomic rose

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Out of curiosity, have you ever tried these? new
#95391 - 08/03/04 02:22 PM

I was actually just going to suggest Spiru-Tein... I never made it to the HFS today, but I suddenly remembered it from my GNC days. I'm just curious about what they taste like, what you mix them with - and if the psyllium in them is enough psyllium to cause any kind of problems for someone who isn't used to it.

I've also seen that they come in packets, Kelly (Vicam), so if you can find the packets where you are, you wouldn't have to invest a lot in a tub of something you might not like.

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Yoda (formerly Hans)

Reged: 01/22/03
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Re: Non-dairy liquid meal supplements? new
#95402 - 08/03/04 04:08 PM

Hi, sweet. I found really good luck with Boost, although it contains casein. The glucerna looks like it has a lot, although I don't know the percentage of boost. My only advice is : try it and see.
I managed to tolerate the boost when I wasn't eating anything. It's worth a try. It's not like you've got anything to lose!

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HeatherAdministrator

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No, Amazakes aren't rice milk... new
#95425 - 08/03/04 06:08 PM

though I agree they are overpriced! They're actually the entire rice grain, broken down into a liquid. Rice milk has virtually all of the soluble fiber strained out of it, but Amazake doesn't. Plus, the pecan and almond versions are a great way to get a tolerable amount of healthy fats, and they are really high calorie (I think about 400 a bottle, which is easily just one serving) so they're great for people trying to gain weight. I love the nut versions, don't care at all for the fruit varieties.

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atomic rose

Reged: 06/01/04
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Ahh... new
#95426 - 08/03/04 06:15 PM

It was hard to tell, honestly. Our health food store sells so few of them that they hardly ever stock them; the ones they had were *frozen*, and so all I could tell about them I got from the label. (Which made it sound like rice milk. ) They had one mango and one almond, I think... I was about to try the mango one, till I saw they wanted $4 for it. Ack!

Thanks for the clarification, though! If I can ever find them cheaper anywhere (and not frozen solid!), I'd still consider trying one.

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Vicam

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Loc: Ontario, Canada
Amakaze new
#95428 - 08/03/04 06:24 PM

Thanks for the suggestion Casey (and Heather). I've looked into them and can't find any place in Canada that has them...I have seen some places that ship, but it's pretty pricey. I think maybe the next time I got to Toronto I'll look at a bigger store...maybe they'll have them.
Kelly

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