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Why is this Happening?
      #72560 - 05/23/04 06:55 AM
Evan

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All of a sudden something is not going right....I've been eating well (following the diet), taking the Acacia, seeing a hypnotherapist, drinking a lof of Peppermint and/or Fennel tea and for the past four days have had very loose stool- not quite D and there's no cramping.
I tried cutting out the soy products, tried soy products with Beano....it's a little bizarre. Even with Beano two Veggie Dogs gave me a lot of gas....What could be the problem here?
Thanks for all of your advice- this is about the only place I cn talk openly about IBS....
Any suggestions?

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Re: Why is this Happening? new
      #72561 - 05/23/04 06:56 AM
stateskater23

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How much acacia are you taking, could be too much for you.

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Re: Why is this Happening? new
      #72563 - 05/23/04 07:01 AM
Evan

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I'm taking 1.25 tsp 3 or 4 times a day. I was thinknig it was time to incrase the does?

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Re: Why is this Happening? new
      #72570 - 05/23/04 08:24 AM
barbie

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Hi,

Make sure nothing you are taking like vitamins, gum, mints,etc, has Sorbitol in it. That is a big trigger for IBS.

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Well, I Have a Few Thoughts .... new
      #72588 - 05/23/04 09:39 AM
Bevvy

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Veggie dogs. Yeah, I had a chicken apple sausage last week and ended up with the worst D attack, but mine was accompanied by cramping too. I just think they put stuff in those "dogs" that's a trigger. Either it's the pork casing (yep, they all have pork casings!), the dark poultry meat (a trigger), or the sodium nitrate -- regardless, they're not safe.

How much Acacia are you taking? Do you know what the concentration is? I didn't. I was trying to increase my dosage, all the while completely unaware that I was already at the max! I thought all SFS were the same -- they're NOT! Beware. With the acacia, it's 1T = 5g. (I thought it was 1T = 2.25g.) All I had to do was read the package, but I was too stupid! DOH.

Anyway, if you take more SFS than your body can tolerate, you'll end up with gas, bloating, cramps, diarrhea, and TERRIBLE URGENCY! I got stuck several times recently. Bad, very bad.....

I don't blame the soy. If you cut out the soy products and still have the symptoms, it ain't the soy. No cramping, eh? Hmmm.... I wonder if you just need a probiotic? Have you checked out Jarro-Dophilus EPS? web page My poops became "firmer and more fully-packed" when I started on Jarro. Great stuff.

Yes, of course you can talk openly here about your IBS. That's what we're all about. All of us in the same boat. But fear not -- because that same boat ain't gonna leak, my friend!

Cheers,
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Tolerance Level new
      #72590 - 05/23/04 09:47 AM
Bevvy

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Evan, did you read my post in this board about Acacia dosages? web page and also web page

How are you feeling on that dosage? You're at about 8g/day. You can increase it SLOWWWWLY until you start having the symptoms indicated above, then cut back a little. You've reached your tolerance level. But if you're having those symptoms now, Evan, perhaps 8g IS your tolerance level, just like Mags.

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counting Acacia new
      #72598 - 05/23/04 10:52 AM
Evan

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Bevrs- Thanks for your reply....But if I'm taking 1.25 t 3x a day, isn't that just a little bit over 5g. (1T=3t correct??). Could I really be at my max?

Evan

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Amen, Bev !!! -nt- new
      #72599 - 05/23/04 11:01 AM
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Re: Well, I Have a Few Thoughts .... new
      #72607 - 05/23/04 11:20 AM
crampgirl

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I stay away from "dogs" in any form. From real hot dogs to any veggie type. Any of those frozen foods with mixed ingredients can have who knows what all mixed in, especially whey. No frozen mixed foods for me - period. I have to know every ingredient that I'm eating. Even when they list them, sometimes it is vague, like spices, or flavorings and you don't know what you are getting.

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1 tablespoon of Acacia equals 4.5 grams soluble fiber - nt- new
      #72695 - 05/23/04 05:20 PM
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But Heather -- new
      #72721 - 05/23/04 05:50 PM
Bevvy

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The package of Acacia says 1T = 5 grams. Actually, it says: "Serving Size: 5g (approx. 1 tbsp)" So it's not EXACTLY 5g? It's really 4.5?

That would explain why it says 15g is "(approx. 3 ROUNDED tbsp)" (emphasis added).

Heather, it also says to use within 6 months of opening. If kept in an air-tight jar, does that still apply? What about if kept in the fridge? What about if kept FROZEN?

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Re: But Heather -- new
      #72736 - 05/23/04 06:17 PM
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Hi Bev - Check the label details - there are about 5 grams of Acacia in a tablespoon BUT - of those 5 grams, 4.5 grams are the fiber. The remaining .5 grams are a combination of water and other trace particles from the Acacia plant. In other words, almost (but not quite!) all of the Acacia is soluble fiber. Where you would really notice this type of difference is in something like Citrucel or Metamucil, where they've added sugar. The amount of fiber per gram of the stuff will be a lot smaller percentage, because the bulk of what's in the bottle is all sugar.

So, when you're calculating your actual fiber intake, use the 4.5 grams per tablespoon figure.

As for using within 6 months of opening, we had to put some type of guide for this on the label. The typical industry standard for this is 6 months, so we went for this. Honestly, if the stuff is unopened, it would probably last just about forever. Same thing if it's open but kept in an air tight jar. It does not have to be kept cool or out of light, though it probably wouldn't hurt to not store it for months in direct sunlight. What really matters here is that it's kept dry, because it will absorb moisture from its surroundings (it's soluble fiber, remember!). I don't think freezing would do anything - just keep it in a nice dry sealed container in a kitchen cupboard and I can't imagine that you wouldn't use it all up long, long, long before you saw any changes in the product due to age.

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Thanks for the important acacia storage info, Heather.-nt- new
      #72780 - 05/23/04 09:40 PM
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