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?Help:infants and digestive problems!!
      #36449 - 01/10/04 08:48 AM
suzyq

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Hoping someone can help? I have a friend who has a 6 weeks old son.His first two weeks of life was pretty good, eating, sleeping , pooping the norm. In a matter of days he had started vomitting and diarehhea. His mom of course took him to Emerg and Dr.s told her it was the flu as it was flu season.She took him home and for a week he was still the same and again to emerg a few more times resulting in being told just the flu. 2 weeks ago finally had ultrasound done on him thinking he had narrowing tube so food was not going down fast enough in return he would projectile his food. He lost a bit of weight and continued to cry 24/7. Test turned out neg. specialist was seen and he told the mother that his digestive system is a little sensitive.During this time she had changed his formula 4 times.Has tried Soy.He is on a new brand at this time (name?)(new brand).He is at aleast keeping it down for now, as she says it takes a couple of days for the formula to react. Now this is also what the DR. told her: the baby needs to be comforted and held more because he is colicky! The mom was a little distraught and has been overwhelmed (her first child was fine) and told him that she holds him 24/7. She is at her whits end(don't blame her as I was on the phone with her and the poor child was litraly screaming! I told her about wrapping in warm blanket and she also bought a baby water bottle and gives him Gripe water(gas and discomfort). Does anyone out there know what else she can do. WE know our selves what it is to be discomfort and in pain. Any suggests that I can pass on would be grateful. I know a while ago HansSolo was possibly having ths same problems, or similar. Thanks for listening(reading) Sue

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Re: ?Help:infants and digestive problems!! new
      #36452 - 01/10/04 09:25 AM
Yoda (formerly Hans)

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Yep, sounds like she's going through a rough time. What worked for my baby was something I read in the "The Happiest Baby on the BLock". It combines swaddling, rocking, turning them on their side, shushhing and a soother to calm them down. I worked for me. I don't agree with everything said in the book, but the steps to calm down the baby were helpful.
She's not breastfeeding - right? I found that Heather's peppermint capsules (taken by me) helped a bit too - some of everyhting we eat gets into breastmilk, so I think it was helpful. That's not the case here.
Be sympathetic to your friend, offer to hold the baby for a while while she takes a rest or a bath, buy her the book ... hope this helps.

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Re: ?Help:infants and digestive problems!! new
      #36511 - 01/10/04 02:15 PM
suzyq

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Thanks Hansolo. NO she is not breastfeeding, too bad though. Will continue offering my help. HOw long does colic last anyways? Sue

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Ask the doc about fennel tea... new
      #36519 - 01/10/04 02:57 PM
HeatherAdministrator

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There have been some clinical studies on giving fennel tea to babies for colic. I have no idea what the dose would be, and I'd want her to check with the baby doc about this. But fennel is a safe herb for infants, and it can be tremendously helpful for colic. There's an article about it in the diet section of the Research Library board.

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Re: Ask the doc about fennel tea... new
      #36530 - 01/10/04 03:45 PM
suzyq

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Thanks Heather, I'll let her know about the tea. Sue

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Re: ?Help:infants and digestive problems!! new
      #36656 - 01/11/04 01:14 PM
Fia

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Is she breast feeding at all (its far better than any formula!)? I if she does she shouldn't eat anything that gives you gas. I've read in my babybook that a lot of babies that have colic like symtoms feels better if the mother stops eating dairy produts for a while.
If he only eats formula I've heard that corn formula is better than ordinary for some babies.

I hope he feels better soon!

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Re: ?Help:infants and digestive problems!! new
      #36692 - 01/11/04 05:44 PM
Debby

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Hi there, Another good idea might be to look in to infant massage. Massage is great on babies for many many reasons including it helps to calm them, they eat better, the sleep better and they can release tension through the massage. Plust the bonus of bonding with your baby! I have taken a mini course on it where I work and the statistics were amazing on how helpful massage can be. Infant massage is done a lot on babies in the hospital but it is also great for babies who are perfectly healthy. There may be info on the internet (not sure) or the library. Some hospitals teach this class to new parents. Sorry I have no advice about the stomach issues for the baby beside massaging your baby can help release pressure and gas (that part works for me too!) Keep us posted.

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Re: ?Help:infants and digestive problems!! new
      #36917 - 01/12/04 04:12 PM
paininthebumper

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Too bad she isn't breastfeeding...but is it really too late? She could contact a lactation specialist through her medical facilities, often times they can assist in getting milk to come in even after this delay but she'll have to act soon. Breastfeeding would give her so much more control over baby's nutrition and allow her to CUT OUT the dairy (any formula) and soy alternatives (which many sources believe babies lack the enzymes to digest). When Hanna had colic (bad memory flashbacks happening here) swaddling helped a lot as well as abdominal massage. Now this is going to sound really off the wall but we have a first floor laundry room and the only way she would fall asleep (for weeks I might add) was in her carrier on top the running dryer while I cooed to her! Of course, don't leave baby unattended in this situation Sounds like your friend needs all the help she can get, hope it works out for her soon. Diane

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Re: ?Help:infants and digestive problems!! new
      #36927 - 01/12/04 04:19 PM
suzyq

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Thanks for responding, but no she is not breastfeeding. I will let her know about corn formula though. Thanks for the advice. Sue

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Re: ?Help:infants and digestive problems!! new
      #36930 - 01/12/04 04:23 PM
suzyq

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Thank you on the advice about massage. I will let her know to try this. I know what you mean about massaging your self, it does help bring out the gas!! Thanks again. Sue

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Re: ?Help:infants and digestive problems!! new
      #36935 - 01/12/04 04:30 PM
suzyq

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Thanks Diane for your suggestion. When you mentioned the name Hanna I took another look because my friends oldest childs name is Hannah, . Yes its too bad she is not breastfeeding. She had a problem with breastfeeding her first so she figured the same thing would happen with this one. Anyways so far so good on the formula he is on now. Your suggestion on the dryer trick,was already suggested. I believe I mentioned this one to Hansolo with her newborn. . I have no other ideas other than telling her to hang in there and have lots of patients.Also to get out of the house once in awhile by herself with the children in someone elses care. Thank you again. Sue

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Re: ?Help:infants and digestive problems!! new
      #41563 - 01/28/04 02:12 PM
Fia

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How is the baby doing?

Fia

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Re: ?Help:infants and digestive problems!! new
      #41643 - 01/28/04 05:49 PM
suzyq

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Hi Fia; thanks for asking. The baby is doing a little better. Whatever the new formula his mom put him on seems to be working. It is colic. He will now sleep for about 6 hours before he awakens with screams. Before he screamed all the time.Sleeping little. Mom cuddles and holds him as much as possible and sometimes just puts him in his crib and lets him cry. Just to keep her sanity. Thank you for asking and thank you again from everyone on their advice. Sue

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Re: ?Help:infants and digestive problems!! new
      #41700 - 01/28/04 09:29 PM
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hello ! My "baby" (who is now 19 and the reason we found this board) had terrible, terrible colic, for months and months. I did breast feed her - but knew nothing about IBS trigger foods like i would now. We held her non stop for about 5 years (it seemed like) --- she has turned out to be an incredibly sensitive (physically and emotionally) and very very dear and special person. I think it is all connected. But it is truly hard to be so sensitive and she struggles with it in lots of ways. You should hear her play the violin, though, and see how compassionate and deep and insightful she is for such a young person ! Perhaps these thoughts would help your friend as she walks the floor at 3 am holding a screaming baby and wondering what is wrong. Its impossible to have that perspective until you've made it through to the other side. The positioning that Hansolo was talking about sounded really really good, and also the massage if he seems to like it. They are all different, so its good to experiment to see what kind of physical input will calm them. What worked best for our girl was to walk around holding her (where she was kind of upright) and to "bounce" her up and down. This seemed to soothe her stomach. In fact, my husband actually ended up buying a few albums that had just the right rhythm that we used specifically for "bouncing the baby"..... Also, we used to lay her on her back and bend her knees toward her chest and then move her knees slowly in a circle -- that seemed to help relieve the cramping. Also - she seemed to get her eating signals mixed up -- your friend might watch for that -- i would try to feed her to see if that was swhy she was crying -- and when she didn't want to eat -- i would try some other things -- then i might try feeding her 5 or 10 minutes later and she would act like she had been starving, which would always surprise me -- i read somewhere much later that collicky babies tend to get their signals mixed up -- like knowing when they are hungry and when they are not -- i don't know if that makes sense......YOur friend should force herself to get help and get some other loving people to spend time with the baby (even if he is crying) so she can get a break. It will save her sanity and she will be able to love him better when she is there. I didn't do this and I definitely should have. The extra love and attention this child gets will pay big dividends - i believe it did with our daughter -- they will be close his whole life - he will not forget their devotion. Since he is bottle fed - he should be fed slowly and take breaks and be sure that he burps well. I would definitely have her look into the fennel tea that Heather was talking about -- maybe also chamomile. I think there are also homeopathic remedies made specifically for babies with colic -- i would definitely try these -- they are totally harmless and may help. The best thing you could probably do is to watch the baby for her., and give her breaks. Also I carried mine in the front pack and then the back pack constantly, did all my work that way, and that was very very comforting and calming for her and would usually stop her from crying. Sometimes its better to them in there and go about life and not focus all your attention on them, but let them "do life" right with you, if you know what i mean -- they will tend to forget themselves, but also not feel abandoned. Some have found that riding in the car can be soothing for colic and will often put them to sleep. Good luck. she is lucky to have a friend who cares so much.

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Re: ?Help:infants and digestive problems!! new
      #41711 - 01/29/04 12:36 AM
Fia

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When I was pregnant I used to watch a education program on TV about babies. In the colic episode the parents made a small bed for the baby on the tumble-drier, aparently the babies get calm by the rocking. I know that some babies sleeps well in the car, but I wouldn't recommend that a tired mother drives around that might be dangerous.
I know that in norway they give babies acupuncture but I'm not sure that I could stand seeing my baby full with needels..

Fia

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Re: ?Help:infants and digestive problems!! new
      #42422 - 01/31/04 11:19 PM
barb n

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How are the baby and the mama doing?

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Re: ?Help:infants and digestive problems!! new
      #42566 - 02/02/04 07:48 AM
suzyq

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thanks for asking Barb! Seen Mom and Baby yesterday! He has grown! We were at a Super Bowl party, so Mom had a break and baby had a few new moms for a few hours. The formula he is on is working. He now sleeps more, but eats every 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 hours. ,and drinks about 6-8 oz. Evening he eats about 10 pm then sleeps to about 3 am. Mom says when he awakens at that time eveyone one wakes up. He gives no notice when he is hungry. Just lets out a loud yell, like he is saying "feed me now!!". He still gets tummy trouble, so she wraps him tight in blanket, rocks him, even carries him in kangaroo pouch, tries the swing.she does say that his attention span is minimal. He gets restless very fast so she moves him from different things every 10- 15 mins. I asked her if she tried the dryer trick. she said no. Her basement is to scary lol. anyways he is doing much better. So is mom and dad. thank you again for asking. Sue

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