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ok why cant we discuss dairy i dont get it we are meant to be helping each other
ok so i guess i should try activia yogurt cos i am with the team that say active yogurts help i pray it helps my bloating and consaption 
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My girlfriend hasn't been diagnosed with IBS but she does suffer from constipation gas and bloating.In a severe way so I think she probably has IBSC . She finds relief when she eats beans everyday too but her husband told her to stop or he would divorce her. 
She stressed that she did it for two weeks to feel better and when she started to miss a few days, the bloating came back.
Since we can't say the "d" word I'll try not to but for me I can't do soy at all(my biggest trigger!!) and "d" products don't bother me. I LOVE activa and would rather eat that than pop a pill everyday!
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IBS-D since 1999...mostly stable..i do cheat too.Bad me.
Edited by dragonfly (12/19/08 05:22 AM)
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Dragonfly, thanks for the info about your friend! I think it's interesting that the bloating came back after she started missing days. When I was doing some research on probiotics last year (wanted to know which ones to order) I learned that even if we replenish the bacteria, they're not in our colon to stay and we need to keep supplying it, otherwise they just die off. So I guess that's when the problems are back.
I actually just got a new bottle of probiotics so I'm going to see how that works out. It's just a blend of lactobacilli and bifidobacteria. I used to love activia, too. I actually miss all yogurt. I don't do well with soy products either (and even if I did I don't like the taste). I agree that having to eat activia every day would be a small price to pay for the bloating to go away. I would eat grass if that was the cure, lol  !
That's funny about the beans. Yeah, they do have that effect . I can't risk anything like that since I work in an office environment  .
My plan for now is to survive the holidays the best I can, and then I'll decide if I want to try it out or not.
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Since it is directly against board rules to say it is ok to eat dairy I do not need to defend myself! A limited study looking only at distension for a limited time does not prove that eating dairy will not bother the digestion of someone with IBS for the long term.* It is infinitely better to get probiotics from a safe source. No doubt Activia must taste great but it is irresponsible to cite this study as gospel when Heather's plan of avoiding dairy has proven beneficial in the long term for so many with IBS.
Furthermore I will not agree to disagree. I feel very strongly and will not change my mind that more good would come to the posters here to base your philosophies on the HFI plan. Since you have started posting all the stable and very helpful posters have left. No one is bringing people back to the basics of the HFI plan. I think it is a shame.
*We have to take new studies like this with a grain of salt. Much of the time, according to my GI doc (a very renowned specialist) people will have some initial benefit to a change in diet but it isn't sustained. Many times people will feel better on a low carb diet for a few weeks but then crash hard. Changing eating or adding some new thing may seem to help for a while, but it is often ephemeral. Whereas using a proven program like Heather's will be lastingly beneficial.
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IBS-A for 20 years with terrible bloating and gas. On the diet since April 2004. Remember this from Heather's information pages:
"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!
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Hey guys! Don't argue!!! That's not very nice. You both have different opinions on Activia, which is obvious. But this is nothing to argue about! Can't we all just get along. That's one of Heather's guidelines. This is not a debate forum. Please stop arguing. 
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IBS-C, Gas, Bloating, HURTING!
I'm married and it's so wonderful!
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Good idea!
#339668 - 12/19/08 12:32 PM
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Syl
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BTW - I don't have any opinion on Activia or any dairy. I don't eat it myself. I don't encourage its consumption.
I do respect good IBS researchers and their opinions. I am willing to carefully consider what they have to say and let other knows about it so they can consider it too.
Thank you for your input
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I don't eat it either. It scares me. I don't even like to go close to cows anymore! Hahahahaha
And research is, basically, all we have to go on! Thank you Syl!
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without the dairy base. That would be quite interesting.
In the meantime, I'd prefer to get probiotics without the dairy so I know I'm getting the good without taking a chance on the bad.
- H
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Heather is the Administrator of the IBS Message Boards. She is the author of Eating for IBS and The First Year: IBS, and the CEO of Heather's Tummy Care. Join her IBS Newsletter. Meet Heather on Facebook!
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What I do not understand here is the very fact that everyone is different.Not everyone eats the same to get stable.
The EFI was a life saver for me.I recommend it to everyone I can.I even explained it to my doctor who thought it was very interesting.It was the only thing that stablized me when my gut was out of control. I return to it when feeling poopy.
The thing is even though mentioning dairy is against the rules, some ibsers can handle it.So why can't we tell others that yes I can but maybe you can't.
Is this web site only here to help people ONLY if they follow Heathers advice? I was under the impression, correct me if I am wrong, that Heather started this site to help other people with IbS. I didn't realize that we were only allowed on if we were vegan.
I can't do any soy product.I can do dairy product.I am not the only one.But because that is how MY ibs works I can't tell anyone?
If we also can't talk about meat then why are there recipes on this site that include meat?
I have found some really great advice on here and have met people I really like and I respect their opinions.If I can no longer get help for all my IBS concerns, then where do I go.If topics are being censored here then I prefer to go elsewhere.
That saddens me because I have found great help by following Heathers diet guidelines and if I can no longer discuss all the aspects of my IBS then I don't think I want to be here anymore.I cetainly won't reccomend this site for others anymore.
If my opinion means nothing to you then don't read my posts.Don't respond if you don't want to.But DON"T tell me I am wrong when I relate MY experiences.
IBS is so different to each of us and we all find relief in different ways. That doesn't mean that because I choose to eat off the diet that I am cheating.It simply means that my body has its on unique triggers.
Please feel free to let me know if my post is inappropriate
By the way, Syl , I find your advice and help very amazing.You seem to have a good grasp of what IBS is and how to handle it.I don't believe all the "good posters" have left, I believe all the people that have stablized have left.
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IBS-D since 1999...mostly stable..i do cheat too.Bad me.
Edited by dragonfly (12/19/08 02:29 PM)
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An interesting thing about this study is that individuals with allergy or hypersensitivity to milk proteins were excluded from the study. The control group was given a milk with lactose and the study group yogurt with probiotic. One might expect the control group to show a statistical worsening of symptoms from baseline if there was a milk effect. They didn't. Go figure 
As you said - hopefully some day they will do a robust study that rigorously controls for dairy. It is badly needed
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