September Health Magazine
#314210 - 08/29/07 03:25 PM
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Husky82
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Hey Everyone,
When I returned home from work last night I found the September issue of Health magazine waiting in my mailbox. After having dinner, I sat down and skimmed through. On pg.90, there is an article called 'The Top New Remedies for Irritable Bowel'. The items they talked about weren't that new. It talks about probiotics, herbal supplements (peppermint and chammomile), and keeping a food log. What shocked me in the article was that one of the suggestions was to 'Get more fiber'. THis is what the articles says, "Try eating more apples, oatmeal, whole-grain bread, and air-popped popcorn." What? No wonder so many people feel like there is no end to their suffering. It makes me want to write a letter to the editor!
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Aargh!
#314215 - 08/29/07 03:34 PM
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Sand
Reged: 12/13/04
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Loc: West Orange, NJ (IBS-D)
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Sadly, this kind of ignorance about the different types of fiber and how they help and/or hurt people with IBS is very wide-spread. If you do write a letter to the editor, please post it. If you include the address, I'll write one myself.
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OMG! I was searching the web yesterday, googling IBS Diet to see what would come up and yeah, there were things listed to eat that are the total opposite of what one should! I got pissed off reading it. Things like whole wheat, whole grain, prunes, etc. were listed. WTF?
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Wendy IBS A thru Z 
Taking it one day at a time...
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How lucky are we that the advice on this website exists!! I don't care how many times I have to explain why I won't eat someone's mega-grain maximum fibre ultra-whole-wheat health loaf - get it away from me!!!! - I just can't believe how life improves once you understand soluble and insolube fibre. Phew.
Although I've noticed here in Australia there's a bit of an advertising push on oats and their soluble fibre content for cholesterol reduction which is interesting. There's an oat cereal out now that you can eat cold which will be good for summer coming up! Can't sweat it out over hot porridge all year!
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There's different approaches to treating IBS. Maybe that diet works for some.
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IBS-C with pain and bloat
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The first doctor I went to for Ibs said to eat prunes, so I did that for the most horrible, stuck at home, week of my life! A doctor, I can't imagine...
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ibc a but c predominent doing hypnotherapy and taking it one day at a time
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Yeah I agree with Jordy. There are millions of other people with IBS who are able to handle it very well and very easily. I guess we're not so fortunate but a lot of people ARE helped by doing just what the artical says & they stabalize very quickly or else it would not be pretty much the only advice we ever get from anyone.
I do think a letter to the editor, explaining the differences between insoluble and soluble fiber would be good though and how there is more than one way to treat IBS and the other one needs to get some recognition too because for some people just "getting fiber" doesn't help.
If you post the address I would like to write a letter as well.
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showing that insoluble fiber, particularly wheat bran, makes people with IBS worse, not better.
It's bad advice. Just because it's been repeated ad nauseum for decades doesn't meant there was ever any basis of truth to it, or that it's somehow helpful now. It ignores literally all the dietary research on IBS and how fibers physically affect the gut.
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Very interesting. I would appreciate it if you could give reference to these studies, particularly those concering IBS-C. I would like to added them to my library of IBS reference material.
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The FODMAP Approach to Managing IBS Symptoms
Evidence-based Dietary Management of Functional GI Symptoms: The FODMAP Approach
FODMAP Chart & Cheatsheet
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the wheat bran ones aren't even new - and there are numerous ones. Dr. P. J. Whorwell, one of the top IBS docs/researchers in the UK, has conducted several of them. I met him at a conference a few years ago, and he was such a sweetheart, and visibly frustrated that he still saw so many patients who'd been told to eat bran. I felt for him. 
- H
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Syl -- If you check out the IBS Research Library, under Diet (near the bottom of the list), you'll find several articles discussing bran (IF) and how it's irritating to the bowel. HTH.
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I saw Dr. Whorwell in the early 1990s when I lived in the UK. I have a number of papers that talk about IF and IBS-D and I have read the ones concerning wheat bran. However, I have not come across a paper that discusses general negative effects of all IF on IBS-C. Do you know which one in the library addresses this specifically?
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The FODMAP Approach to Managing IBS Symptoms
Evidence-based Dietary Management of Functional GI Symptoms: The FODMAP Approach
FODMAP Chart & Cheatsheet
The Role of Food & Dietary Intervention in IBS
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Thats interesting to learn seeing as how my aunt and a few other friends of the family who have IBS manage it very well with the "ignorant" advice given to them by their doctors.
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Not surprizing
#314391 - 08/31/07 01:24 PM
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Syl
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It is not surprizing to hear that your relatives and friends manage okay with the traditional advice. Even Matthew and Whorwell in their editorial about the effect of bran on hospitalized IBS patients made guarded comments in their conclusions which read:
In conclusion, it is probably best to recommend that patients with IBS be left to judge for themselves whether bran helps or exacerbates their symptoms, but there is enough evidence to suggest that the current dogma of routinely treating all IBS sufferers with bran should be challenged. Proprietary sources of fiber, such as ispaghula, may be more appropriate for those IBS subjects (for example, constipated) for whom fiber supplementation is believed justified.
My mother was IBS-C. Bran and raw veggies were central in the management of her symptoms. On the other hand I cannot tolerate much IF. However, it would be nice if more IBS professionals and observers would discuss the role and scope of all dietary fiber types in an IBS management diet.
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The FODMAP Approach to Managing IBS Symptoms
Evidence-based Dietary Management of Functional GI Symptoms: The FODMAP Approach
FODMAP Chart & Cheatsheet
The Role of Food & Dietary Intervention in IBS
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Check this one Time for reappraisal . It simply says "all symptoms". I don't know that I've seen fiber studies that break out the participants into D, C, A, etc. There's an awful lot of work that needs to be done here.
- H
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Thanks
#314406 - 08/31/07 03:42 PM
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Syl
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That paper was referred to in 1998 editorial. For some time I have been searching for information about the relationship between IBS-C and the various types of fiber. There may be a clue in that research about which carbohydrates are fermented by methane producing bacteria which can impact IBS-C. Oh well I am sure this information will eventually appear. Thanks
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STABLE: ♂, IBS-D 50+ years - Science of IBS
The FODMAP Approach to Managing IBS Symptoms
Evidence-based Dietary Management of Functional GI Symptoms: The FODMAP Approach
FODMAP Chart & Cheatsheet
The Role of Food & Dietary Intervention in IBS
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Last time I "tried" oatmeal (which was the best advice I could get at the time!) I ended up in the hospital and I was sure that I was going to explode... I love this site. Thank you Heather for outreaching to the magazine on our behalf.
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IBS-D, with Coloitis from surgery
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Thanks Heather for writing the editor. I am so tired of hearing the wrong advice. I had a doctor, a GI specialist, recently tell me that more fruits and vegies would help my stomach. I have pretty much given up on doctors for IBS. I thank you Heather for starting this website and writing your books. YOu are the ray of light many people need. 
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