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#284607 - 09/30/06 07:32 AM
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Jeio
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Hi, all
I am new here, I was diagnosed with IBS-C like 2 months ago, after having lost 17 pounds for 2 months and my best friend wad sure I had an inflamatory disease... But, thank the Lord, I did not so here I am 
I just found Heather's site (like last week) and have been implementing the diet. It really is funny how little doctors tell you... they leave you on your own to deal  And she told me to take tylenol(paracetamol) for the pain, and it is not helping at all...
But Heather's diet helps! Although I had to give up dairy, which has always been my favourite food of all foods, it seems to help for the pain so I think I'm going to stick to this. Thanks Heather, this is really amazing!
So...
Thanks for all the information and for posting recipes and what not, guys! I love this place, although I am still in the "getting to know it"-"reading it all out" phase (don't know if I'm ever going to get past it, it's so huge  )
Thanks
--J
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Hi-
I'm new here too! Diagonised for sure a month ago with IBS-C. I have been on Heather's diet for a month and a half, and now have more "good" days than "bad" days. I am also on the hynotherapy tapes.
You're right about the Dr's not giving any information. Mine was glad the I found this site. She said that she wished more of her patients would seek out help on their own.
Hope to hear more for you 
Snookie
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Hi. Welcome I'm glad yur feeling better. I am c but also have well maybe some other condition still on tests. Could you share a sample day and also the symtoms that have lessened with no dairy etc. Thank you so much.
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Welcome Jeio.
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Well,
I used to have a whole lot more of bloating, gass and general pain.
I don't think I was lactose intollerant, but stopping the dairy did stop the "out of the blue" cramping attacks I was having.
What I do during the day is, I generally eat oatmeal in the morning (and i don't put milk in it any more... I have to use soymilk... which tastes horrible, I have to find something else). Then I have a snack between breakfast and lunch and the snack is either pretzels, or something like that. Then I have lunch, which might be a bread (white bread) sandwich, or some other snacky thing. Then i have a banana for afternoon snack and I have dinner with my husband. Dinner is made of cooked food -- rice, or potatoes with something else, sometimes peas, sometimes ground meat (a very small amount), all 'bad' foods but in small amounts and with plenty of staples
Most of the time, I cook things that specific of our native cuisine (I'm not american, I was born in Eastern Europe) which happens to be very IBS friendly, as I am reading from Heather's site. So I might be posting some recipes on the board after I try them all out, and if you guys are interested
With the no-dairy diet most of my symptoms have lessened -- the pain has become more controlled, gass and bloating has lessened. I guess dairy has been a big trigger for me.
Hope that helps and you feel better soon.
--J
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Thanks. I have another? were you c too.I think I need to stop the dairy as well. I too think soy milk is ooo but my friend said it just takes adjusting.I know there are different brands too. Also rice milk,almond milk,but I heard it has less protein. I just don't get how eating so much refined stuff like white bread helps with c? I also have the bloating and cramping too.Thanks again
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I take miralax for the constipation.
No, eating starchy food does not help with constipation, you are right, but eating whole wheat kills me, so what can I do?
My mother suggested drinking a glass of warm water with honey first thing in the morning, that would help with the C... I haven't tried it yet, but her friend has and it has helped.
The thing with IBS is you just CAN'T eat the things they usually give people for constipation. It's that you have to eat something, so you eat what you can. I can't loose more weight, I'm almost underweight and I don't have regular periods... so I am doing my best to eat nutritious food. And if white bread is the only thing I can take, then so be it. Living free of pain is mor important.
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You have a good outlook. I too need to gain weight and need to focus on more what feels good in my stomach. Anyways white bread provides energy and that is the most important. I just was confused about the c part and meds don't help me. The cramping though is ick.
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No, eating starchy food does not help with constipation, you are right, but eating whole wheat kills me, so what can I do?
My mother suggested drinking a glass of warm water with honey first thing in the morning, that would help with the C... I haven't tried it yet, but her friend has and it has helped.
Fruits and vegetables. At every meal. I know that we get pounded into our head that insoluble fiber means bran and whole wheat, but those are probably the most challenging sources. Getting fruits and veggies at every meal will help with C and give you a lot of nutrients you should get anyway.
Cooking/chopping/pureeing will make the IF easier to handle. And note that you still have to get your soluble fiber (SF): that is what will keep the IF from cramping you up and making your C worse!
--AC
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Yes, that thing with pureeing still confuses me. Pureeing probably doesn't remove the IF from the food, so how does it help exactly?
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Good question. I would be interested in knowing the answer too. Perhaps it allows the IF to blend more with the other SF you eat as it is claimed happens with ground nuts in flour. There is evidence showing that boiling carrots in salt water degrades IF. Apparently the salt reduces the amount of insoluble polymers. Maybe it works the same for other vegetables and grains.
PS - what is you area of science?
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Wow, interesting.
That theory sounds good at first glance, but when you think about it... IF is by def insoluble, which means it won't dissociate in water. That would make it unlikely that it reacts with the Na+ and Cl- ions that arise from table salt dissolved in water... Although it doesn't mean it won't do it for sure. I wish I knew how (some) IF looked chemically it would be fun to look into
However, I think if we puree cooked lentils, then maybe the insoluble fiber is so well ground that our guts won't stress that much over it. Or maybe, because the soluble fiber is now easily accessible (it's not inside an IF hull), it will be able to ease the passing of the IF...
Syl, my area of science is Mathematics. How about your ?
--J
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It isn't a matter of solublity. It is the degradation of fibre in the presence of ions and heat. Here is the reference. I can send you the full paper if you want. The experiment compared boiling carrots in 10, 100 and 400 mM NaCl and CaCl2 for 0, 4 and 25 mins.
Nyman, E. M. G.-L. and S. J. M. Svanberg, 2002: Modification of physicochemical properties of dietary fibre in carrots by mono- and divalent cations. Food Chemistry, 76, 273-280.
Perhaps it is the local (i.e. cellular or molecular) SF/IF ratio that makes a difference. When there are large bits of IF the local SF/IF could be quite low resulting in cellular distress. I also believe that starch may play a role too. A personal example is that I can eat 2-3 tbps of pureed lentils on a 1/2 cup rice usually without any problem but I cannot handle oat meal with large pieces of bran at all.
My research focus is complex systems and my educational background is biophysics, molecular biology and computer science.
Maybe Heather can create a scientific chat room for those of us that want to discuss the science of IBS. What say Heather?
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STABLE: ♂, IBS-D 50+ years - Science of IBS
The FODMAP Approach to Managing IBS Symptoms
Evidence-based Dietary Management of Functional GI Symptoms: The FODMAP Approach
FODMAP Chart & Cheatsheet
The Role of Food & Dietary Intervention in IBS
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there are often other posts on the diet board about new studies that get posted in the research library forum on the boards. That forum is locked so it can only contain studies, and there really isn't a discussion board for the studies (especially all the ones that have nothing to do with diet or hypno) anywhere on this site.
I'm going to make a new post for this, with a survey, and take some time to think about it too. I try to keep the number of boards on the site limited so that they all stay active, and also so they all have clear areas of focus that don't totally overlap.
At first thought, though, this seems like a pretty promising area for an independent board.
Thank you for the suggestion!!!
- H
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