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      07/11/05 12:54 PM
Stephie

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Hi Kimm,

I am so sorry that you are going through this, it sounds just awful! I can't understand why men do things like this, I could make guesses but then I might be way off the mark 'cause they are so damn complicated and confusing.. Although they THINK they aren't, which makes things even worse!!

I am wondering, has he ever been in any other long term relationship before, other than the one he is in with you? I am just thinking that maybe he has gotten into that mindset of "If I marry her, I'll have only really been with ONE PERSON!" which can freak people right out. I know that I have only ever been in this deep with Adrian, and it does sort of play up in the back of my mind that if we stay together, that's it. I'll never experience this or that... I mean, I put the rest of it in perspective and it goes away but maybe it bothers other people a lot more than it bothers me.
If I had to put money on it, it sounds to me like a total commitment thing. I have had best guy friends for ages, and it sounds really typical of wanting to be with someone NOW but not wanting to have to promise to be there always. Then the promising that he DOES want to be there always? I think that's probably just him realising that if he doesn't, he might lose you. Then something will happen and he'll think maybe he should be more weary of planning for forever.

Either way, it's not okay. It is selfish and cruel to put you through that, and the way you said he is reacting says he doesn't seem to realise that.
I definitely agree with the other girls about just being really honest and straight forward with him. I think in every relationship there comes a time for, "Okay, out of this relationship I want this, and that, and this.. and if you don't want those things, and I mean want those things every day, not every OTHER day or every so often then we really need to think about where this is going".
My counsellor that I love was talking about relationships and she specialises in harmonious divorce and stuff like that and she said that the leading 2 causes of a realtionship breaking down are Assumptions and Unspoken Expectations. I think you have to lay everything on the table and see where the cards fall.

I am so sorry again, I know this must just be so heartbreaking and emotionally draining. We'll be here for you, and eMail me any time!

**big hugs**
--Steph

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* Don't Know What To Do.....
Kimm
07/11/05 10:17 AM
* UPDATE #3
Kimm
07/12/05 06:30 PM
* A good plan.....
epa_ginger
07/12/05 06:35 PM
* UPDATE #2
Kimm
07/12/05 09:45 AM
* Re: UPDATE #2
Snowy
07/12/05 12:11 PM
* Kimm
Sara-Sage
07/12/05 10:09 AM
* Hmm...
Cara4503
07/12/05 10:01 AM
* Am I Crazy??
Kimm
07/12/05 10:19 AM
* This is tough!!!
epa_ginger
07/12/05 12:38 PM
* epa_ginger
Kimm
07/12/05 01:50 PM
* Yep...
epa_ginger
07/12/05 02:15 PM
* Re: Yep...
AmandaPanda, J.D.
07/12/05 02:23 PM
* Re: Yep...
epa_ginger
07/12/05 02:27 PM
* Re: This is tough!!!
AmandaPanda, J.D.
07/12/05 12:42 PM
* Re: This is tough!!!
Jennifer Rose
07/12/05 02:06 PM
* Oh, no!!
epa_ginger
07/12/05 12:49 PM
* For Kimm
Snow for Sarala
07/12/05 01:09 PM
* Re: Oh, no!!
AmandaPanda, J.D.
07/12/05 12:58 PM
* You're not crazy!
Cara4503
07/12/05 11:05 AM
* No - the deciding factor is commitment
ecmmbm
07/12/05 10:52 AM
* I agree with Michele...
Linz
07/12/05 10:58 AM
* Re: I agree with Michele...
chinagrl
07/12/05 11:05 AM
* Re: Am I Crazy??
michele
07/12/05 10:52 AM
* Re: Am I Crazy??
chinagrl
07/12/05 10:35 AM
* Re: UPDATE #2
Shell Marr
07/12/05 09:55 AM
* Re: UPDATE #2
chinagrl
07/12/05 09:55 AM
* Update....
Kimm
07/11/05 01:32 PM
* ANOTHER update....
Kimm
07/11/05 03:26 PM
* Re: Kimm, I've been there.....
LittleLisa
07/11/05 04:03 PM
* I can't help but feel happy about this!!
epa_ginger
07/11/05 03:35 PM
* Thank you all.....
Kimm
07/11/05 07:51 PM
* Kimm, I missed this whole thing...
Augie
07/11/05 07:58 PM
* Re: Kimm, I missed this whole thing...Me too!
doubletrouble
07/11/05 08:49 PM
* Aww Kimm...
chinagrl
07/11/05 02:57 PM
* Re: Update....
Shell Marr
07/11/05 02:30 PM
* Urgh!!!!
Linz
07/11/05 02:25 PM
* Re: Urgh!!!!
Lana_Marie
07/11/05 08:14 PM
* OK, I have to say something to defend my Gender
TommyNY
07/12/05 06:38 AM
* I'm with Tommy...
chinagrl
07/12/05 06:45 AM
* Re: I'm with Tommy...
Lana_Marie
07/12/05 06:56 AM
* Re: I'm with Tommy...
TommyNY
07/12/05 06:59 AM
* Re: I'm with Tommy...
Sara-Sage
07/12/05 09:53 AM
* I feel sick for you....
epa_ginger
07/11/05 01:55 PM
* Oh Kimm...
Sara-Sage
07/11/05 01:54 PM
* Re: Hugs
michele
07/11/05 01:36 PM
* Re: Hugs
Kimm
07/11/05 01:49 PM
* Re: Hugs
Sara-Sage
07/11/05 01:54 PM
* Re: Don't Know What To Do.....

07/11/05 01:09 PM
* Hrmph! Men!!
Stephie
07/11/05 12:54 PM
* Re: Don't Know What to Do....
BL
07/11/05 12:08 PM
* Re: Don't Know What To Do.....
nicky
07/11/05 11:42 AM
* Re: Don't Know What To Do.....
Lana_Marie
07/11/05 11:49 AM
* Re: Don't Know What To Do.....
Sara-Sage
07/11/05 11:31 AM
* I have to say I agree with Tina...
Dr. Spice Yamin
07/12/05 02:44 PM
* I agree with Tina & Ashley
TommyNY
07/12/05 03:37 PM
* Re: Don't Know What To Do.....
Kimm
07/11/05 12:12 PM
* Re: Don't Know What To Do.....
TommyNY
07/11/05 12:17 PM
* I dunno...
chinagrl
07/11/05 12:21 PM
* Re: Don't Know What To Do.....
Sara-Sage
07/11/05 12:14 PM
* Re: Don't Know What To Do.....
TommyNY
07/11/05 12:18 PM
* Re: Don't Know What To Do.....
Kimm
07/11/05 12:18 PM
* Re: Don't Know What To Do.....
Sara-Sage
07/11/05 12:21 PM
* I dated a guy like this
Snow for Sarala
07/11/05 11:27 AM
* I'm always for being open/honest/up front...
ecmmbm
07/11/05 10:39 AM
* I gotta follow this up...
ecmmbm
07/11/05 11:39 AM
* Re: Don't Know What To Do.....
AmandaPanda, J.D.
07/11/05 10:35 AM
* Re: Don't Know What To Do.....
Snowy
07/11/05 10:29 AM
* Re: Don't Know What To Do.....
RachelT
07/11/05 10:28 AM
* Re: Don't Know What To Do.....
michele
07/11/05 11:38 AM
* I don't understand.....
Kimm
07/11/05 12:16 PM
* Oh, man....
epa_ginger
07/11/05 12:36 PM
* Re: I don't understand.....
Snowy
07/11/05 12:23 PM
* See now THAT...
chinagrl
07/11/05 12:23 PM

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