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Re: IBS-D - Dr.'s - The IBS Healing Center
      05/20/08 08:10 AM
shawneric

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Ivy, did you talk to your gi doctor about klebsiella pneumonia results as well for there take on it?

This bacteria is a normal gut bacteria. However, an infection of this organism is almost always accompanied by a FEVER. This is also an infection and would have red flags that don't support and IBS diagnoses.

Were you first diagnosed by an actual gi doctor? Did they do blood and stool work when your were seen.

"Klebsiella pneumonia tends to affect people with underlying diseases, such as alcoholism, diabetes and chronic lung disease. Classically, Klebsiella pneumonia causes a severe, rapid-onset illness that often causes areas of destruction in the lung.

Infected persons generally get high fever, chills, flu-like symptoms and a cough productive of a lot of mucous. The mucous (or sputum) that is coughed up is often thick and blood tinged and has been referred to as "currant jelly" sputum due to its appearance.

Mortality in Klebsiella pneumonia is fairly high due to the underlying disease that tends to be present in affected persons. While normal pneumonia frequently resolves without complication, Klebsiella pneumonia more frequently causes lung destruction and pockets of pus in the lung (known as abscesses)."

Be careful whenever you here the term "dysbiosis."

Unorthodox Techniques for the Diagnosis and Treatment of Allergy, Asthma and Immune Disorders

Australasian Society of Clinical Immunology and Allergy

The following is a summary of the most common unorthodox techniques and practices used to treat or diagnose allergy and asthma. ASCIA strongly advises against the use of these tests for diagnosis or to guide medical treatment.

"Tests for 'dysbiosis'
Use: Diagnosis of food sensitivity / allergy and other non-specific symptoms

Method: Some laboratories offer pathology tests including stool bacterial/chemical analysis, urine metabolite profiles, intestinal permeability assays, trace metal analysis, Candida antibody / cellular proliferation assays and blood / urine fatty acid and amino acid profiles for assessment of "dysbiosis". The concept of 'dysbiosis' states that there is a balance of 'good' versus 'bad' bacteria in the bowel of each person, that imbalances result in disease, and that this can be assessed by various metabolic and bacteriological measurements. Such tests are often used by unorthodox practitioners as a rationale to guide (a) megadose nutritional supplementation; (b) 'probiotic' and/or antibiotic therapy; or (c) dietary modifications. These treatments are promoted as a means of restoring a 'healthy' balance of bowel flora.

Evidence: No evidence

Comment: There is no sound evidence to support the notion of 'dysbiosis' as a cause of allergic diseases or related clinical conditions. The clinical validity of the tests involved or treatments advocated has not been demonstrated."

http://www.allergy.org.au:80/pospapers/unorthodox.htm

Many times alternative centers will use very questionable tests as well as very questionable "interpretations of the tests results themselves."

See I fibnd it hard to believe personally you have had this for 11 years and if it was bacterial like that it never became a serious bacterial infection that that bug could lead too.

Also it sounds like you still have IBS?

Sometimes taking probiotics or even antibiotics can help lessen pain in IBS because of normal bacteria and sensitive nerves lining the gi tract in IBS.

Food poisoning is KNOWN to be a part in some people developing Post Infectious IBS. Was that 11 years ago?







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