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Re: milk (message for Jeio)
      03/01/07 03:22 PM
Sand

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History is also littered with scientific research that has proven to be incomplete or incorrect with further research. The most horrific example of this is probably thalidomide. In the medical field, ulcers leap to mind. In the health/food field, one thinks of margarine being touted as safer than butter - for decades.



Hmmm. It was a science that figured out thalidomide was the problem. It was science that found the baterial source of ulcers (Dr. Barry Marshall, an Australian scientist). It is industry that moves products from science into the market and created the difficulties you alude to.



Um, not exactly. It was science that originally said thalidomide was safe. It was science that insisted - for years - that ulcers were caused by stress and spicy food and bacteria had nothing to do with it. It was science that said margarine was safer than butter. Science eventually got it right but science got it wrong first.

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The EFI diet is a set of guidelines not a set of rules. It definitely is wise for anyone trying to stablize to eliminate dairy and many other foods from their diet. However, once they are stable we should make them feel comfortable experimenting with the EFI diet to figure out for themselves which of the guidelines are rules. This includes experimenting with diary!




Hey, I have no problem with IBSers keeping diaries. After all, there have been many famous diarists throughout history and I've never heard that keeping a diary makes IBS worse. (Although I understand Pepys may have suffered from urinary tract stones.)

As for dairy, my position is "I believe dairy proteins are problematic for IBSers"; you are representing my position as "people shouldn't experiment even after they're stable". I don't dance with straw men.


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line415
02/27/07 07:37 PM
* not getting involved
Little Minnie
03/02/07 12:29 PM
* Stop!!!
oldestofseven
03/02/07 08:33 AM
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03/02/07 08:08 AM
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03/02/07 08:34 AM
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03/02/07 09:09 AM
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03/01/07 06:19 PM
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Jennifer86
03/02/07 08:24 AM
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oldestofseven
03/02/07 08:36 AM
* Read this
Syl
02/28/07 06:37 AM
* Thank you!
Jeio
03/01/07 03:53 AM
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oldestofseven
02/28/07 05:37 AM
* 2% vs FF milk
Jeio
02/28/07 06:25 AM
* Re: 2% vs FF milk
oldestofseven
02/28/07 07:38 AM
* No, not lactose free, but lactaid should take care of it -nt-
Jeio
03/01/07 03:54 AM
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Jeio
02/28/07 04:08 AM
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Jennifer86
02/28/07 11:01 AM
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Jeio
03/01/07 04:04 AM
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Jennifer86
03/01/07 12:45 PM
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Sand
03/01/07 08:50 AM
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Syl
03/01/07 10:18 AM
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Sand
03/01/07 11:09 AM
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Syl
03/01/07 11:32 AM
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Sand
03/01/07 12:35 PM
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Syl
03/01/07 02:57 PM
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Sand
03/01/07 03:22 PM
* Re: milk BRAT is Bananas, Rice, Applesauce & Toast not milk...
LtDanFan
03/01/07 08:57 AM
* Re: milk BRAT is Bananas, Rice, Applesauce & Toast not milk...Oops! (m)
Sand
03/01/07 09:01 AM
* Re: milk BRAT is Bananas, Rice, Applesauce & Toast not milk...Oops! (m)
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03/01/07 11:30 AM
* Re: milk BRAT is Bananas, Rice, Applesauce & Toast not milk...Oops! (m)
Sand
03/01/07 12:07 PM
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line415
03/01/07 07:52 AM
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Jeio
03/01/07 02:45 PM
* Jeio
Sand
03/01/07 03:30 PM
* Rice milk does NOT cause C!
Lisa Marie
02/28/07 12:47 PM
* Re: Rice milk does NOT cause C!
Jennifer86
02/28/07 01:45 PM
* Re: Rice milk does NOT cause C!
Gracie
02/28/07 05:05 PM
* This is ridiculous!
Flipada
02/28/07 06:00 PM
* Re: Good post, Flipada. I agree with you! -nt-
lalala
03/01/07 11:17 AM
* I'm with Flipada, too. -nt-
Sand
03/01/07 08:42 AM
* Re: This is ridiculous!
Jeio
03/01/07 04:27 AM
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Gracie
03/01/07 02:24 PM
* Re: This is ridiculous!
Jeio
03/01/07 03:05 PM
* Re: This is ridiculous!
Gracie
03/01/07 04:23 PM
* I think you're missing the point...
Lisa Marie
03/01/07 03:59 PM
* whaaaat??
jen1013
03/01/07 01:58 PM
* Re: whaaaat??
Jeio
03/01/07 03:11 PM
* Jeio please stay...and everyone else, let's drop it! Sorry!! n/t
line415
03/01/07 05:31 PM
* Re: This is ridiculous!
Jennifer86
03/01/07 03:14 AM
* Re: This is ridiculous!
Jeio
03/01/07 04:28 AM
* Re: This is ridiculous!
Gracie
02/28/07 07:56 PM
* I'm with Flipada on this one.
hohoyumyum
02/28/07 07:29 PM
* Re: Rice milk does NOT cause C!
Lisa Marie
02/28/07 04:16 PM
* Re: Rice milk does NOT cause C!
LtDanFan
02/28/07 02:26 PM
* How long have you been trying?
DianeM
02/28/07 04:29 PM
* Re: How long have you been trying?Diane M
LtDanFan
02/28/07 05:58 PM
* Re: Rice milk does NOT cause C!
moon01064
02/28/07 01:39 PM
* Re: Rice milk does NOT cause C!
line415
02/28/07 04:19 PM
* Re: Rice milk does NOT cause C!
Lisa Marie
02/28/07 04:21 PM
* Raisins cause gas???
line415
02/28/07 04:23 PM
* Re: Raisins cause gas???
Lisa Marie
02/28/07 04:28 PM
* Re: Raisins cause gas???
line415
02/28/07 04:32 PM
* Re: Raisins cause gas???
Lisa Marie
02/28/07 04:51 PM
* Re: Rice milk does NOT cause C!
Lisa Marie
02/28/07 04:13 PM
* Re: Rice milk does NOT cause C!Lisa
LtDanFan
02/28/07 06:01 PM
* Re: Rice milk does NOT cause C!Lisa
Lisa Marie
03/01/07 10:23 AM
* I was afraid of this...
line415
03/01/07 08:03 AM
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02/27/07 07:41 PM
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02/28/07 06:23 AM
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Jeio
02/28/07 06:34 AM
* Re: milk/ FF real milk more lactose
LtDanFan
02/28/07 07:22 AM
* Thank you for all your responses...
line415
02/28/07 10:22 AM
* Re: Thank you for all your responses...
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02/28/07 12:58 PM

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