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Shanna: how can you live with not going for a whole week? I'd be crazed from sleep deprivation!
      12/01/03 10:39 AM
lithelady

Reged: 08/15/03
Posts: 339
Loc: Novato, CA

Shanna and other severe C-IBSers:
Doesn't being constipated more than one day ruin your sleep? It sure does mine! If I'm constipated more than one day I have constant discomfort all day but then at night it becomes much worse- really terrible sometimes- and it either prevents me from being able to sleep soundly, and thus restfully, thruout the night. Then, since I haven't slept well, my bowels work much less well the next AM.

HOW do you sleep soundly when you're constipated for a week or more???? I can't use any sleep medications-they all make my constipation much worse. This makes sense to me b/c all sleep meds slow down the nervous system. So it's logical that they would slow down the nervous system's activity in the gut too.

As far as herbs, valerian is a no-no b/c one of it's side-effects is that it can cause constipation, which it does in me. The other herbs, like chamomile, hops etc do NOTHING to help me sleep when I'm constipated b/c the constipation discomfort is too great, so it overrides any relaxation effect that they provide.

BTW, colace, MOM and glycerin or dulcolax suppositories do nothing to help me get cleaned out, they all just make my poop mushy, but it STILL won't come out. However, I do think that taking magnesium helps me- 400 mg/day to offset the 1000mg/day of calcium that I have to take. I have premature osteoporosis b/c I had to stop eating all dairy in childhood due to my C-IBS. Beware of this bone disease complication from having IBS,even though you are only in your 20s. Be sure to get as much calcium in your diet as possible from foods other than dairy, so that you can avoid having to take calcium supplements, b/c they are definitely constipating! grrrrr

What has helped me the MOST after years of struggling, suffering and searching is H's diet. It has made a BIG diff in keeping my stools softly formed. HOWEVER, I do have to make sure to eat as much "cushioned" insoluble fiber every day as possible to keep things moving and coming out.

I came up with he word "cushioned" to help my friends understand what my colon needs b/c the concept of soluble and insoluble fiber is just too much to try to explain to everyone. However, I do want my friends to understand why I'm sooooo committed to H's diet whenever and whatever I eat. I know some of them still don''t really get it and think I've become a bit of a nut but I DON'T CARE. Hey, they're my friends, they've seen me suffering w/ this yukky problem for more than 25 years- since childhood like Heather- so they're just happy for me that the diet is working. PLUS I'm alot less nuttier than many people out here in crazy SF, even with IBS! lol

Lastly, taking Zelnorm 6 mg twice a day is what has helped me to get the poop out every day in combo with always getting up every day at 5-5:30 b/c my "window of opportunity is from 5-6:30. "Isn't that special"!! I hate having to get up this early every day- sure ruins my social life having to be in bed every night by 9:30- but I've finally accepted that this is the ONLY time I can poop, even with using Zelnorm. The Chief of Gastroenterology is my MD and about a year ago he told me that I'm the worst case of C-IBS he's ever seen- said I have a "dead colon". I recently told him - very nicely of course; didn't want to take out my longterm frustration on him when I know he was just trying to be empathetic- that it didn't help my head or gut AT ALL when he told me this and it definitely made me feel depressed for several months. Thank God for H's diet and Zelnorm, at least I'm no longer having to do enemas every other day. That was a BIG bummer but I was the only thing that helped me to be able to sleep, so that I could keep working each day without being a zombie.

Anyway, back to the subject. I still have problems with becoming constipated about once a week and I have NO idea why but when it happens I don't sleep well and then I have to do an enema again, which I hate doing! SO, any suggestions about how to decrease the discomfort at night so that I can sleep better on these bad nights would be great. I've got my fingers and toes crossed.
Thanks!

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Many years of C-IBS and pain too for past 2 years-

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* I miss pooping. :o(
Shanna
11/21/03 12:45 PM
* Re: I miss pooping.My solution
Susie2
09/26/06 09:25 AM
* interesting...
rlhilliard
09/26/06 06:58 AM
* What fiber brand do you take? And how much?
Jordy
09/26/06 07:21 AM
* Re: What fiber brand do you take? And how much?
rlhilliard
09/26/06 07:25 AM
* Only 1 tsp?
Jordy
09/26/06 07:30 AM
* miss pooping too

09/25/06 04:46 PM
* Weight of poop!
Jordy
09/25/06 07:14 PM
* that's scary/frustrating/depressing

09/25/06 09:09 PM
* Re: miss pooping too
Miso
09/25/06 05:56 PM
* Re: miss pooping too

09/26/06 09:18 AM
* Re: I miss pooping. :o(
icygirl
06/16/04 09:36 PM
* Re: I miss pooping. :o(
GentleHeart
01/28/04 08:15 PM
* Re: I miss pooping. :o(
flower
12/06/03 06:38 AM
* Re: I can't believe all the people reading the I miss pooping topic
Debby
12/05/03 03:28 PM
* Re: I can't believe all the people reading the I miss pooping topic
louise
12/05/03 08:18 PM
* Re: I can't believe all the people reading the I miss pooping topic
AngelKitty
01/06/04 04:19 PM
* Re: I can't believe all the people reading the I miss pooping topic

09/25/06 05:58 PM
* Yeah -- Millions of Your New Best Friends Know
Bevvy
01/06/04 04:31 PM
* NOTE: my pooping is now EXCELLENT! -nt-
Shanna
12/05/03 11:42 AM
* Re: NOTE: my pooping is now EXCELLENT! -GREAT but due to what???-nt
lithelady
12/05/03 12:36 PM
* decreased stressed, different time of "the month"
Shanna
12/05/03 01:48 PM
* I know what you mean....it's the daily question in my life.......what will my colon do today????
lithelady
12/05/03 02:00 PM
* FLU SHOT?!?! And what helped me...
Shanna
12/06/03 08:33 AM
* Re: FLU SHOT?!?! And what helped me...
Snow for Sarala
12/07/03 07:15 AM
* Flu Shot?
Shanna
12/07/03 10:05 AM
* Re: I know what you mean....it's the daily question in my life.......what will my colon do today????
Gerry10
12/05/03 05:15 PM
* fiber
Shanna
12/06/03 08:36 AM
* Re: I know what you mean....it's the daily question in my life.......what will my colon do today????
Debby
12/06/03 06:24 AM
* Debby-how bad was your constipation?Has the acacia helped you to poop well?
lithelady
12/06/03 08:30 AM
* Re: Debby-how bad was your constipation?Has the acacia helped you to poop well?
Debby
12/06/03 08:14 PM
* playing detective
evie
12/06/03 12:41 PM
* Re: playing detective
Shanna
12/06/03 08:25 PM
* I think I've got it!
evie
12/07/03 01:51 PM
* Re: Cocoa?
fishnets
12/07/03 04:23 PM
* suggestions
Shanna
12/06/03 08:39 AM
* Pooping./////
Gerry10
12/05/03 05:34 PM
* Re: I miss pooping. :o(
Debby
11/24/03 03:59 PM
* haha -nt-
Shanna
11/24/03 06:58 PM
* Re: I miss pooping. :o(
bauie25
11/24/03 01:11 PM
* Goal: To be a pooping machine
Shanna
11/24/03 06:04 PM
* Re: I miss pooping. :o(
*Melissa*
11/23/03 06:23 AM
* Mags, Jasper, other board friends: Thanks!
Shanna
11/23/03 07:31 AM
* Re: Mags, Jasper, other board friends: Thanks!
sugar
11/25/03 03:42 AM
* The mysterious peppermint capsules
Shanna
11/25/03 08:37 AM
* Re: Mags, Jasper, other board friends: Thanks!
Kree
11/25/03 07:40 AM
* Congratulations!
*Melissa*
11/23/03 10:55 AM
* Re: I miss pooping. :o(
shawneric
11/21/03 02:05 PM
* Re: I miss pooping. :o(
Shanna
11/21/03 02:44 PM
* Sulphur in dried fruits
lithelady
11/24/03 12:55 PM
* Re: tea
fishnets
11/24/03 02:08 PM
* interesting info...
Shanna
11/24/03 06:57 PM
* Re: interesting info...
zingirl
01/06/04 11:01 AM
* To Cristy
Kandee
01/06/04 01:18 PM
* Re: interesting info...
shawneric
11/25/03 08:27 AM
* Thanks!
Shanna
11/25/03 08:38 AM
* Re: interesting info...
LillibetM
11/25/03 07:46 AM
* Re: tea
Kree
11/24/03 02:10 PM
* Re: tea
fishnets
11/24/03 02:12 PM
* tea
Shanna
11/25/03 05:18 PM
* Re: I miss pooping. :o(
jasperlovel
11/22/03 08:37 PM
* Aloe Vera Juice....
Shanna
11/24/03 07:02 PM
* Re: Aloe Vera Juice....
jasperlovel
11/24/03 10:25 PM
* Thanks so much!
Shanna
11/25/03 08:40 AM
* Start slow and carefully with the aloe...
HeatherAdministrator
11/25/03 01:00 PM
* Thanks... I will be careful, definitely. -nt-
Shanna
11/25/03 03:49 PM
* Re: I miss pooping. :o(
lithelady
11/24/03 12:35 PM
* Re: I miss pooping. :o(
shawneric
11/22/03 10:49 AM
* thanks...
Shanna
11/24/03 07:01 PM
* Re: I miss pooping. :o(
michele
11/21/03 01:46 PM
* Re: I miss pooping. :o(
Shanna
11/21/03 01:48 PM
* Is exercise an option?
HeatherAdministrator
11/21/03 02:25 PM
* Re: Is exercise an option?
LillibetM
11/21/03 08:52 PM
* Seperated at Birth!
Shanna
11/21/03 10:35 PM
* Re: Seperated at Birth!
LillibetM
11/22/03 06:59 AM
* Re: Is exercise an option?
sherr1
11/21/03 09:04 PM
* Re: Is exercise an option?
LillibetM
11/22/03 07:06 AM
* Re: Is exercise an option?
Shanna
11/22/03 07:53 AM
* Re: Is exercise an option?
Shanna
11/21/03 02:45 PM
* Re: Is exercise an option?
sherr1
11/21/03 07:16 PM
* Re: Is exercise an option?
LillibetM
11/21/03 08:54 PM
* Re: Is exercise an option?
Shanna
11/21/03 10:36 PM
* Pooping time!
Kree
11/22/03 08:48 AM
* Re: Pooping time!
Shanna
11/24/03 07:05 PM
* Re: Pooping time!
Kree
11/24/03 07:33 PM
* HAHAHAHA!!
Shanna
11/24/03 07:58 PM
* Re: HAHAHAHA!!
Kree
11/24/03 08:03 PM
* Re: Pooping time!
evie
11/24/03 07:38 PM
* Question for Evie
Kree
11/24/03 08:01 PM
* Re: Question for Evie
evie
11/24/03 09:32 PM
* Re: Question for Evie
Kree
11/25/03 07:45 AM
* Perk!
evie
11/25/03 12:20 PM
* I eat banana bread everyday -- we should start a club! -nt-
Shanna
11/24/03 08:07 PM
* Re: Pooping time!
Shanna
11/24/03 08:00 PM
* Re: Is exercise an option?
LillibetM
11/22/03 07:02 AM
* Two hour pooping window from when I wake up...
Shanna
11/22/03 07:56 AM
* Re: Is exercise an option?
fishnets
11/21/03 11:22 PM
* Heather -- Colace
Shanna
11/22/03 07:58 AM
* Re: Heather -- Colace
fishnets
11/22/03 10:47 AM
* Re: Heather -- Colace
Shanna
11/24/03 07:08 PM
* Re: Is exercise an option?
LillibetM
11/22/03 07:09 AM
* Re: Is exercise an option?
Shanna
11/22/03 07:59 AM
* Re: Is exercise an option?
LillibetM
11/22/03 08:22 PM
* Re: Is exercise an option?
Shanna
11/22/03 08:27 PM
* wheat and yogurt?
Shanna
11/21/03 07:43 PM
* Re: wheat and yogurt?
LillibetM
11/21/03 08:59 PM
* Re: wheat and yogurt?
Snow for Sarala
11/23/03 01:44 PM
* Re: wheat and yogurt?
Shanna
11/23/03 05:19 PM
* Re: wheat and yogurt?
kctrun
11/23/03 08:54 PM
* One more thing...
Shanna
11/23/03 10:03 PM
* Shanna: how can you live with not going for a whole week? I'd be crazed from sleep deprivation!
lithelady
12/01/03 10:39 AM
* one thought
Shanna
12/06/03 08:50 AM
* Shanna-Txs soooo much for all the ideas& support!!
lithelady
12/06/03 10:42 AM
* hi
Shanna
12/06/03 08:30 PM
* Re: Shanna-Txs soooo much for all the ideas& support!!
Paula Girl
12/06/03 11:33 AM
* Paula- what were you going to write?? Re: Shanna-Txs soooo much for all the ideas& support!!
lithelady
12/06/03 11:53 AM
* Re: Shanna: how can you live with not going for a whole week? I'd be crazed from sleep deprivation!
maryh
12/01/03 10:57 AM
* Txs Maryh, I'm up to 9 -10 gms of a combo of citrucel and benefiber per day.
lithelady
12/01/03 12:22 PM
* Re: Txs Maryh, I'm up to 9 -10 gms of a combo of citrucel and benefiber per day.
fishnets
12/01/03 10:41 PM
* Re: Txs Fishnets, it's called diabetes insipidus & I've been checked for it,
lithelady
12/05/03 08:58 AM
* I'm still interested in knowing if being constipated disturbs others' sleep?
lithelady
12/05/03 09:20 AM
* Re: One more thing...
kctrun
11/24/03 04:20 PM
* i took it before bed, pooped the next morning...
Shanna
11/24/03 07:09 PM
* Re: One more thing...
Snow for Sarala
11/24/03 01:58 PM
* Thanks!
Shanna
11/24/03 07:10 PM
* Re: One more thing...
kctrun
11/24/03 03:56 AM
* Re: wheat and yogurt?
Shanna
11/21/03 10:33 PM
* Re: wheat and yogurt?
jryder
11/24/03 08:11 PM
* Re: wheat and yogurt?
Shanna
11/24/03 08:23 PM

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