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      04/01/05 05:13 PM
Kandee

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I haven't posted in a long time My question is about the article Kandee wrote in the latest newsletter about gluten intolerance/Celiac. Kandee, in it you say not to stop after the EDG for flattened villi and to ask for blood tests for Celiac. I have had both the blood tests and the EDG - my blood tests came back positive for gliadin antibodies but since my EDG didn't show anything, my GI doc told me there was nothing wrong with me. (I have actually been to two GI docs who told me my positive blood test "didn't mean anything"!!)

Hi Miss Pepper, Good to see you back.
Well, first off I'm certainly no expert, or doctor but have been concerned with Celiac disease since I first heard about it, and I have been allergic to wheat for many years. Thus, like many on the boards here, I read everything I can get my hands on, talk to doctors, and form my own opinions. You will need to form your own as well.

Let's see if I can help by making an analogy to something you might understand better. Diabetes is one of the fastest growing autoimmune diseases of today. If you get a fasting blood test and your glucose levels are under (I think it is) 99 you are considered to be without diabetes. OK, let's say your fasting blood levels were 98 but you have risk factors; a sedentary lifestyle, overweight, a parent has diabetes, etc. . You go about your business with the peace of mind that you don't have diabetes. But then it is recommended that maybe you might want to consider having an IR (Insulin Resistance) test since you have many of the risk factors for diabetes. You have the IR test and it comes back positive. What are you going to do? Are you going to change your lifestyle and eating habits to reflect more that of a person who already has diabetes in hopes that you can thwart the disease before you do get it, or are you going to say..."Well, I don't have diabetes yet, so I'll continue my lifestyle the way it is and BET that I won't ever get it"?

I look at the Celiac blood tests in much the same way....You took the EMA, tTg, IgA and IgG gliadin tests plus had the endoscope biopsy for flattened villi. You test negative on the gold standard one for most GI's..the EDG. You also test negative on a tTg or EMA or both, but you test positive on the antibodies tests, plus you have other risk factors...IBS or other associated autoimmune diseases, your are of northern or eastern European decent, you may have unexplained rashes, etc. . (That would be much like testing positive on the IR test I was talking about.)
What are you going to do, bet that you will never have CD and continue eating gluten laced foods, or take precautionary methods to assure that if you are a candidate for CD in the future insure NOW that you will never have damage done to your small intestine, and begin a gluten free diet?



You say Celiac is an autoimmune disease, and my rheumatologist has diagnosed me with Undifferentiated Connective Tissue Disease, because I don't fit neatly into any of the autoimmune disease categories (blood tests come back normal sometimes, off sometimes). That's interesting. What do you think? When I was in last week, he did make mention of the celiac blood test that was positive, but when I told him what the GI doc said, he moved on. I guess I am just wondering what your take on this is Do you really want to know? Do you think I should try going to yet another GI doc? I can't tell you what to do..that's totally up to you. If you feel you are being listened to by your GI and taken seriously, then stick with him/her, if not, move on. My own personal feeling on this is that GI's are not trained enough in treating CD, nor are allergy specialists..in fact no one really is. I had the privilege of meeting and talking with a GP that does treat CD, in part because he did his internship in pediatric CD and treats both adult and children with CD....and he's not a specialist but knows how to treat it better than any specialist I know. I have been following Heather's IBS diet guidelines since 2001 and have not had any great improvement, although her tips have helped. But it seems like my stomach hurts no matter what I eat
Oh, I'm sorry. Are you following the IBS diet to the letter and not cheating? If so then you may want to give the GF diet a try. But I warn you, it is neither easy nor as healthy as the IBS diet that includes wheat. Do your research first....and read other posts here from Ruchie, Beth, Chrissy, and Stacey..and others. Some, like Stacey noticed a world of difference in only about a week's time when she went GF, others haven't noticed any change.

My biggest concern for those of you reading this is that we've created a gluten paranoia and a lot of people who have been properly diagnosed with IBS and are not feeling better will take it upon themselves to think they are gluten intolerant. Please everyone, get tested first....and keep copies of your blood work. If you test negative on all of it, don't even consider going GF, stick with Heather's diet and recommendations.


Thanks! You're welcome.
Kandee





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* Question for Kandee - Celiac/Gluten Intolerance
Miss Pepper
04/01/05 12:28 PM
* IBS/Celiac/Gluten Intolerance
Kandee
04/01/05 05:13 PM
* Re: IBS/Celiac/Gluten Intolerance
Miss Pepper
04/04/05 07:39 AM
* Well said Kandee! -nt
Linz
04/02/05 10:47 AM
* Re: IBS/Celiac/Gluten Intolerance
MikeE
04/01/05 08:50 PM
* Mike, What is the treatment for MC?
Augie
04/02/05 10:07 AM
* Re: Mike, What is the treatment for MC?
MikeE
04/02/05 03:25 PM
* Well, you certainly taught me something, Mike.
Kandee
04/01/05 10:21 PM
* Re: Well, you certainly taught me something, Mike.
MikeE
04/04/05 04:38 PM
* I need help, I did a search and can't find it Please
LtDanFan
04/04/05 04:43 PM
* Fat
Linz
04/04/05 11:16 PM
* Re: Well, you certainly taught me something, Mike.
MikeE
04/02/05 03:28 PM
* My GI gave me the same advice
Augie
04/01/05 01:01 PM
* Re: My GI gave me the same advice
Ganny
04/03/05 09:37 PM
* To all GF eaters (Mary, Ruchie, Chrissy, Stacey, Nik, etc)
Augie
04/03/05 08:31 PM
* Re: To all GF eaters (Mary, Ruchie, Chrissy, Nik, etc)
Taylahmai
04/03/05 09:01 PM
* Chrissy
Augie
04/03/05 09:30 PM
* Well you've got nothing to lose then Beth....
Taylahmai
04/03/05 11:14 PM
* I agree with Taylahmai Beth!
Linz
04/04/05 04:35 AM
* Chrissy...
doubletrouble
04/04/05 02:22 AM
* Amy and Beth
Taylahmai
04/04/05 08:11 PM
* I believe this..
Kandee
04/04/05 08:47 PM
* Re: Amy and Beth
doubletrouble
04/04/05 08:47 PM
* Re: Amy and Beth
Taylahmai
04/04/05 09:40 PM
* Ooops...
doubletrouble
04/04/05 11:03 PM
* Re: To all GF eaters (Mary, Ruchie, Chrissy, Nik, etc)
Snow for Sarala
04/03/05 09:07 PM
* Re: To all GF eaters (Mary, Ruchie, Chrissy, Nik, etc)
beacon1961
04/04/05 04:08 PM
* Beth, why are you still eating GF...
Linz
04/02/05 10:33 AM
* I eat GF...
Augie
04/03/05 08:01 PM
* Re: I eat GF...
Linz
04/04/05 04:33 AM
* Re: My GI gave me the same advice
Snow for Sarala
04/01/05 01:06 PM
* Remember, celiac is NOT the same as gluten intolerance
Linz
04/02/05 10:39 AM
* Re: My GI gave me the same advice
Miss Pepper
04/01/05 01:17 PM
* Re: My GI gave me the same advice
beacon1961
04/01/05 05:13 PM
* Re: Question for Kandee - Celiac/Gluten Intolerance
Snow for Sarala
04/01/05 12:32 PM

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