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Re: Prebiotics/Probiotics/Digestive Enzymes - KANDEE
      11/20/04 09:27 PM
Kandee

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Hi Sharon,

Good to see you back if only briefly. I had just joined the boards when you were getting your shop started so didn't get a chance to know you like a few of the other "oldies".


Kandee - thx for your response. Just a note though, Nature's Sunshine charges $40 to become a member but you get that in product so there's really no out-of-pocket that you don't get anything for. Some of their products are reasonably priced. I just got a brochure from Puritan's Pride and their product prices compare with Nature's Sunshine.

I didn't get a chance to compare all the prices of Nature's Sunshine products with that which I take but did compare one that was comparable, "Product 11", and it didn't match the amount of live organisms for the various stains of Lactobacillus and Bifidus, yet was $10 higher. However, there is very contradictory information going around about probiotics right now. The newest is that it doesn't even matter if the organisms are dead, they will still work. Others say it's the AMOUNT that counts, others the strain. Go figure. I say, just take the darn things and let your gut do what it wants with them….it will let you know if it's helping or not.


And, yes, their QC is great because they do a QC with EVERY BATCH. I know they're in it for the money (aren't we all when we're selling stuff), but they seem to care about getting the word out to people that if you don't start treating your body right, it'll come back and bite you in the butt. You sound down on them, but I've learned a lot about their products and what their premise behind the product is.

That's great. Education is always the name of the game anyway, no matter who you get it from. No, I'm not down on the company. I only question some of their marketing techniques. I hope, however it works for them if they are viable. This market is highly competitive as it is. BTW, I wonder if they would be willing to offer samples for our Fall Sprawl in 2005.
And we want YOU there!!!


Okay, so I haven't been on the boards for a long time, but how come no one talks about pre/probiotics, etc and using them to help with IBS?

Beats me. The board has changed Sharon.
If anyone is interested in a good primer on probiotics here is one Shawn Eric posted a while back.
web page

I'm trying to get a rise out of Heather, but I think she's bogged down with other stuff and Will was away for a week and she was left do do everything by herself. Heather and Will both are very busy. That's why I sent her the CD on Colon in Crisis. BTW, everything was going great gutwise for me until last night. Don't know what happened, but the gas was unforgiving and I still have it this morning. Oh, I'm sorry.

Guess it's back to rice and flour tortillas for me for today!!! Better than the alternative, tho, right?!
You got that one right. This is what I mean….you can be going along just dandy and think you have it all licked, and you're taking exactly what you are suppose to, and then bam, out of the blue, the gut is going to show you who's boss. I think the key may be in keeping it resting or, at worst, crouching…..but not in the attack mode where it nails us. It's tough, under the best of circumstances!! You have to be vigilant!!

Actually, it makes good sense to me that if your gut is lacking the good bacteria and enzymes (Beano is a digestive enzyme--aspergillus niger to be exact)that should be there to process food and get it on its way, that person would have gut problems, i.e. IBS.

Exactly, and you need different forms for different groups; fats, proteins, carbs, etc. It's like when you take anti-biotics for something, it kills all the bacteria--good or bad--and that's why some women get yeast infections when taking them (including me). Ahhh, you're lucky….that's exactly how I got IBS….antibiotics and NO probiotics to offset killing the good bacteria. NO one told me at the time you need probiotics…they need warning signs on the labels of ALL antibiotics.

As for the artificial sweeteners in one of their biotic products, that probably was a while ago because I just checked the label (which you can do on-line BTW) and there were no AS in them.

This probably isn't one you take. It was the chewable L. Reuteri by Natures Sunshine. I don't know about any of the others. I'll have to check.

Where do you buy your prebiotics, probiotics and digestive enzymes? And, which ones are you taking? Got the prebiotics that you mentioned--thx.

Well, I always hesitate to recommend brands since there are many out there that will do very nicely for us with IBS. I've tried a number of digestive enzymes and they all seem to do fine. Yes, I've also taken Bean-o but found I only needed it a of couple months then the entire gas problem went away. I still carry them with me though. My probiotics I get from a my "good doc" (as I lovingly refer to him) who is an ACAM M.D. at a preventative medicine clinic I go to and for whatever it is worth is also Doctor Phil's wife's alt. medicine and natural hormone doc….and pushing 80 years of age!!

Can you believe that here in a town of 2000 that I can get organic chicken and turkey and beef?
Amazing! I was shocked but we had a new grocery store come in and they carry it and it's only 10 minutes drive for me and on the way to the store. I couldn't believe how good organic (Harris Ranch) beef tasted. Of course, I haven't eaten it for about 6 months either! Have you tried any ostrich meat? It tastes like beef but I think is actually considered foul. It's not to bad, but yes, organic beef IS darn good. Organic anything is better.

Thank you, Kandee, for an enlightening response and I look forward to your response to the above questions.

Sharon

You're welcome Sharon. Don't be a stranger….we "vintage chicks" have to give our input now and then too!! BTW, just so you know…it's all your fault, you know…you and your FF, WW fudgy brownie recipe that was responsible for me putting much of the weight back on after initially coming down with IBS and loosing 35 lbs. instantly….35 I needed to loose. Now say you're sorry…LOL
Kandee



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