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Re: ShawnEric or Syl - What do you think of this information?
      11/17/09 05:22 PM
shawneric

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Frygirl, the first thing is a food allergy reaction might cause D. It sounds slightly that you lean to c, but alternate. This has to do with serotonin being released from cells in your gut, not food.

Part of this I think your missing is emotional upset, but even more then that is how it physically works, because it triggers the same cells food allergies do and that is what I was going to help you with.

Diet of course can help a lot, but there is a lot more to it all, for one its well know the act of eating itself triggers symptoms. There is a lot of info on this

"Dr. Drossman: Shawn - eating causes stretching of the stomach when the stomach strecthes it releases hormones or peptides that stimulate the lower bowel. Because people with IBS overrespond to stimuli (like peptide release) you get an exaggerated motility response and pain, so smaller meals reduce this"

So the act of eating stimulates the large colon to go, not the food itself, this is in Heathers book as well. I have a lot more on this.

To restricted of a diet can cause problems you have to be careful about.

"What makes the study Dr. Whorewell did less useful than the one you posted from the allergy specialists"

The allergy specialists wasn't a study it is well known in allergy research from allergy specialists.

Dr. Whorewell study was useful, but its way more complex then you realize and a preliminary study, which doesn't apply yet. A lot of these foods are already known triggers for a lot of reasons. It can be hard to understand them if you don't know much about them or the purpose or read a lot about IBS or even allergy and food intolerences which is what I ended up doing. This is also done under close supervision. Have you ever seen a dietian, not a nutritionist, but a registered dietian?

Dr Whorewell is also an expert on Hypnotherapy for IBS and has had major success with that, did you knw that?

"It's well known that patients expend large sums of money on a variety of unsubstantiated tests in a vain attempt to identify dietary intolerances," say the authors. This is not to say that diet is the be-all-and-end-all. "IBS is multifactorial so food is not the whole answer," says Dr Whorwell. But the right diet goes a long way. "When a patient responds to the diet the [improvement] does not wear off," says Dr Whorwell. "However, other factors can still make patients worse."

"I'm going to deal with these endorsements separately. Although it isn't clear from the quotation attributed to her, Muriel Simmons may be relying upon a study into IgG testing and an elimination diet in a group of people with irritable bowel syndrome (IBS). In the abstract for that paper, the authors quite properly restrict the scope of their conclusions: Food elimination based on IgG antibodies may be effective in reducing IBS symptoms and is further biomedical research. [Emphasis added.]

Dr. Hunter, who has research interests and publications in IBS, made the following comments about the value of the findings from that study: Food Elimination in IBS: The Case for IgG Testing Remains Doubtful.
The percentage of patients showing substantial benefit from this diet is disappointing. In studies using a well conducted and rigorous elimination diet, the "number needed to treat" is between 1.5 and 2.2 [refs]. The "number needed to treat" in this study was 9. (The value of 2.5, calculated on the basis of those who fully complied with the diet, abrogates the intention to treat principle.)

This seemingly poor response to an IgG based diet confirms the widely held view to date that IgG testing for food intolerance is not of value. [refs] These results suggests that if IgG testing identifies food intolerances at all, it does so fortuituously and with an apparent low degree of accuracy.


Not advise for patients to use, but for further biomedical testing.

Something to note here is a cell called the mast cell, which is involved in IBS and food allergies and directly to a physiologic stress responce all humans have, it is very important in IBS and can cause d and pain, which is why I wanted to point it all out to you.

What else do you do besides diet for IBS management?








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frygurl
11/17/09 04:17 PM
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11/18/09 11:21 AM
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11/18/09 07:01 AM
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