You are right Sand. You did not single me out exactly. But it seems whenever someone goes with something other than the diet, there is backlash. And not from you per se. I will be more careful, but honestly I probably won't post anymore. I do not want to deter newbies at all and they are the ones who need the most help. I am confused on what is acceptable questions/topics and what's not. Reading other posts people talk about things other than EFI diet. To the new people, sorry about confusing posts. The diet does work and it does take time. It's taken me more than three years and I'm still learning. Just hang in there.