peanut butter jelly time!
#346392 - 05/26/09 01:32 PM
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fairleas
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Okay, question:
I'm totally confused on the issue of peanut butter. I've read where some people can eat it, and some people can't eat it. I'll confess right now that I loves me some peanut butter, and a PB&J sammie is one of life's greatest pleasures...or was, until I went on the IBS eating plan. Since I started back in April, I haven't had any PB, because I'm just so confused about it.
For one, we're supposed to avoid foods high in fat, but most PB is very high in fat. There's the whole issue of the peanuts to start with. And then there's the whole range of varieties...regular, chunky, super chunky, with honey, with chocolate, natural, organic, stir, don't stir, and even soy butter...what in the world?!?  I are confused!
So can we eat peanut butter? What should I be looking for on the labels? Are there any ingredients (besides HFCS, which I don't think most PB has) I should totally avoid? I know, I should just try it and see, but I don't want to eat something that could possibly trigger an attack.
Help! 
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HEY! I love PB&Js too!! I don't give up my peanut butter. I have some at least once a week.
I eat the all natural peanut butter. (ingredients say peanuts and salt) You have to stir and put in fridge. It's so good!
Start out small. Try a teaspoon or even half a teaspoon and then try a little more a couple of days later until you figure out your "threshold" so to speak. If you eat a good SF base with it, you shouldn't have too many problems. People with "C" need a little more fat, so if you are, then you should go for it. (Baby steps though)
Remember, with the jellies, check the labels very well for artifical sweeteners/flavors/colors, etc. and for HFCS... these all can be very gaseous and painful!
HTH
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Peanut buttah jelly time! 
I bought some fruit spread this past week (strawberry, all fruit and fruit juice, no HFCS or artificial stuff) and I seem to be doing okay with that by itself on bread. I'd love to have some grape, though...so far it's been very difficult to find grape anything without HFCS.
I guess it is confusing because I'm finding out that there are different shades of IF...some are harder on your system than others. So I wanted to check before I did anything...I'm doing fairly well, I don't want to put myself back at square one! I have IBS-D so I really have to watch my fats.
I like to put some on a regular-sized rice cake and top with either jelly or some bananas. I guess that would be a good SF base, or some fresh white bread.
Yum! 
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Mmmmm. The rice cake with pb and jelly/bananas sounds great! That is a pretty good SF base.
I'm glad you are doing well! Progress is always great! Just be careful in experimenting with the PB, I don't want you to be set back either!
Let me know how it goes!
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Kappy
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Thanks...I don't want to set myself back either! I guess that's why I ask so many questions about other people's experiences with certain things.
I can't experiment right now, anyway...my son ate all the peanut butter. 
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Ask away! That is what this website is for, and asking is the only way to learn!
Pooo.... no more peanut butter!
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I bought some Skippy Naturals peanut butter, thinking that without all the extra added junk it might be better for me. I had what amounted to a tablespoon on a few honey graham animal crackers (about the size of regular animal crackers, so you get the idea of how small an amount I ingested).
Ten minutes later, cramps like I haven't had in forever hit me and I spent most of the rest of the night camped out in the bathroom. Stinkin' gastrocolic reflex. I got a little sleep but woke up with heartburn and acid reflux. My husband finally came home with antacids, and I took those, but had to self-medicate with Fibercon until supper. All day I was in and out of the bathroom, although it was mostly cramping. I did finally gt hungry about noonish but I restricted myself to a few slices of fresh bread and a banana until about 7PM last night.
The other stuff I ate has not given me problems, so I'm pretty sure it was the PB. I'll give it a while before I try it again. I've seen some PB that is just peanuts and salt, so maybe I'll give that a try. Or perhaps try soy butter. Or give up PB altogether............oh sad day.
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OH NO!!!!!
#346503 - 05/29/09 06:47 AM
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Kappy
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Oh I'm so sorry! Maybe you should have tried just a 1/2 tspn to begin with. What are all the ingredients in the graham crackers too? The honey is high in fructose and can cause problems for some. You might want to check for HFCS and other additives to the crackers to see if something in them might have triggered it. I'm sure the peanut butter contributed as well! But just check!
Poor thing, take care of yourself for the next few days to get back on your feet again!
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I actually feel MUCH better today. Whatever it was, it must have all got out of my system. 
I just double-checked the ingredients on the animal crackers (one of the reasons I bought them was their lack of HFCS) and it said "natural and artificial flavor (contains milk)", but it was the next to last ingredient. Just to be safe, I'll stay away from them. But I've eaten them before and they never affected me like that!
I've been trying as much as possible to stay away from HFCS, although I never realized just how many foods have that as an ingredient.
I'm seriously wanting that peanut butter...but I do NOT want another attack like the one I had. So, for now, I'm leaving the PB jar alone.
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I'm glad you feel better!
Those HFCS are in EVERYTHING!!! I know!!! It's stupid and ridiculous! They are just unhealthy for everyone not just IBSers, ya know?
Try having just a little bitty taste to get the craving out of you! I don't want to give you bad advice though, so you might want to stay away for a little while, and maybe in a couple of weeks, you can try a little again!
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I think Skippy has hydroginated (sp?) oil? I always get Laura Scudders because the only ingredients are peanuts. You have to mix it but you can even skim off a little of the oil so the rest of it is not quite as fatty. But yeah, nuts can be very hard for me. A little PB on a bagel is fine, but plain peanuts or almonds - ouch.
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Sorry to hear about the bad PB experience. Skippy's Natural is what I use and I usually have no problems. I have a small amount almost every day. The advice to wait awhile and try it again with something you know is safe is a good idea - I ate some the day after an attack from something else and it didn't really help - I have to give myself a few days with just really bland and safe foods.
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You might also want to try almond butter. It's the same thick, nutty spread but about half the fat of peanut butter and more fibre. I'm IBS - D and eat it all the time with bread or rice crackers and it's fine
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Fat
#346673 - 06/01/09 05:21 PM
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the thing with fat is not how much or what kind you eat but what percentage of the food in your gut at one time is fat. You could eat a whole tablespoon of olive oil if you ate almost a loaf of french bread with it (hyperbole, not mathematical BTW).
So for PB, or anything fatty like mayo or coconut milk or oil or margarine, you have to watch the amount compared to the amount of low fat calories you eat with it. Eating a teaspoon of PB alone would be wrong, but a tablespoon of PB on bread with safe jam or banana (yum) may be fine, fat-wise that is. A person could be sensitive to PB without the fat equation entered in (poor them).
Try taking 1-2c rice milk, a frozen banana and one spoon of PB (I do the reduced fat skippy) and blending it into a malt. See how that goes.
Also FYI this sort of question is best answered on the diet board- recipes are for the recipe board. 
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"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!
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Re: Fat
#346708 - 06/02/09 08:42 AM
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fairleas
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Sorry...I tried asking questions on the main board and they seem to sink like stones, so since this was food-related I thought it might go better here. Seems I'm still learning the rules.
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update:
#346790 - 06/03/09 01:05 PM
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I don't know if it is just because it is that time of the month, or if I'm just seriously missing peanut butter, but I decided today that I wanted to try again. So...I toasted myself some fresh Italian bread (the slices aren't as big as a regular piece of white bread) and put some of the Skippy Naturals PB on it with some concord grape fruit spread (no HFCS or additives). And so far so good...!!!
Hopefully this will mean I can have PB again! 
Maybe my digestion was just in a bad mood that day.
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Awesome! Go, you! That's great, just keep the same 'safety' precautions in mind everytime you want to eat the pb, and hopefully, you will be ok next time as well!
Congrats!
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Hmm...didn't exactly have an "attack" this morning, but things were not as solid as I'd like them to be...!  Felt fine otherwise. Oh well, it could be worse. It could also be related to my cycle. I think as long as I keep it in small amounts and with plenty of IF, as you suggested, I should be okay.
I so missed my peanut butter!
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