Substitution for 4 ounces melted unsweetened chocolate
#239138 - 01/17/06 10:05 AM
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joecool
Reged: 12/31/05
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Loc: Minnesota
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How would you substitute this. Obviously cocoa powder but do you need add other things as well?
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I found this:
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Tip: Baking Chocolate
All out of unsweetened baking chocolate? Substitute 3 tablespoons cocoa powder mixed with 1 tablespoon vegetable oil or butter for each 1 ounce square of the chocolate.
here. Unfortunately, it sounds like this is going to mean ending up with a lot of fat in whatever you're making.
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[Research tells us fourteen out of any ten individuals likes chocolate. - Sandra Boynton]
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Actually I might not end up with much fat. Here is the recipe.
Ingredient - grams fat - grams carb
2 cups sugar - 0 - 400
1/2 cup vegetable oil - 109 - 0
4tbs oil - 54.4 - 0
12tbs cocoa - 8.88 - 1.3
4 ounces melted unsweetened chocolate (not used)
(cool)
2 tsp vanilla - 0 - 1
4 eggs(8 egg whites) - .45 - 1.87
2 cups flour - 2.45 - .68
2 tsp baking powder - 0 - 0
1/2 tsp salt - 0 - 0
1 cup powdered sugar - .12 - 117
Mix sugar, oil, chocolate and vanilla. Mix in eggs, 1 at a time. Stir in flour,
baking powder and salt. Cover and refrigerate at least 3 hours.
Heat oven to 350. Drop dough by teaspoonfuls into powdered sugar, roll
around to coat Shape into balls. Place about 2 inches apart on well-greased
cookie sheet. Bake until almost no indentation remains when touched,
around 10 to 12 minutes. ABOUT 6 dozen (a lot) (don't bake too long)
This would mean I would use 1/2 cup oil and 4 tbs of oil. This would mean 164g fat. This make 72 cookies so 2.28g fat per cookie which is under 21 calories from fat which would be way under the 25% mark. This doesn't include the cocoa though.
For the heck of it I decided to break it all down and here it is.
Total Fat - 175.3 - Calories = 1577.7
Total Carb - 521.85 - Calories = 2087.4
Total Calories = 3665.1
%fat = 42%
Fat per cookie = 2.43g or under 22 calories
Calories per cookie = 51
It might work. I didn't include protein calories and you can probably get by on 3/4 to 1/2 the oil.
I might just have to try this because these were my favorite cookies of all time.
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if each cookie is 51 calories, 22 calories from fat is too much - it's almost 50%.
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jaime
ibs-a (mostly d) // vegetarian
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Okay, two things. First, when you say:
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This would mean I would use 1/2 cup oil and 4 tbs of oil. This would mean 164g fat. This make 72 cookies so 2.28g fat per cookie which is under 21 calories from fat which would be way under the 25% mark. This doesn't include the cocoa though.
I think you've got hold of the wrong end of the stick. The 25% mark is the percent of calories from fat, not the raw calories from fat per serving. In your original analysis, you were reporting 42% of calories from fat - that's the number you would have had to compare to the 25% mark, not the 21 calories from fat per cookie.
Second, my brain doesn't work the way yours does - I can't do carb cals and fat cals. I have to look at total calories and calories from fat for each ingredient, add it up, then see what we've got. Here are my numbers (dad-ratted proportional font):
Ingredient-------------Calories----- CFF
2 cups sugar------------1440--------0
1/2 cup vegetable oil------960------960
4tbs oil------------------480------480
12tbs cocoa--------------240-------60
2 tsp vanilla----------------0--------0
4 eggs(8 egg whites)-------120--------0
2 cups flour---------------800-------0
2 tsp baking powder----------0-------0
1/2 tsp salt-----------------0--------0
1 cup powdered sugar-------480-------0
Total calories for the whole recipe: 4520
CFF for the whole recipe: 1500
% CFF: 33%
My 33% CFF is better than your original 42% CFF, but still well over the 25% of calories from fat that Heather recommends as a maximum. However, 33% CFF is within the range of many desserts both on the Board and in EFI.
So, I say go for it, but remember to have these after a high SF meal and not too many at one time. Let us know how they turn out. I gather that cookies are one of the hardest things to get a good flavor/texture for under the EFI guidelines, so if these work out - hurray!
BTW, even if the 42% CFF is the correct number, I can show you a couple of dessert recipes in EFI that beat that, so I would still say go for it - just be even more careful. The trick is that when you average together whatever else you've eaten before your cookie with your cookie, you need to be in the 25% neighborhood.
HTH.
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[Research tells us fourteen out of any ten individuals likes chocolate. - Sandra Boynton]
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I made a 1/2 batch and they didn't make as many cookies as they say they do but the dough is extremely sticky and you don't use any way near the full powdered sugar which throws off much of the equation. I would say that one could easily use only 1/2 to 3/4 of the oil though and they would still turn out fabulous.
I definitely would only eat these after having a good meal which is how I like my desserts anyway.
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