No More Baths?! HELP! (For Broads Only)
#78523 - 06/13/04 08:22 AM
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Bevvy
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I'm a bath person. I'll take a shower if I'm REALLLLY dirty, like after a workout, 'cause no one wants to "stew in their own juices," ya know? But I prefer baths. At the new house, they put in a jaccuzzi tub for me, with a big window right next to it, so I can look out at the trees while luxuriating in my whirlpool....
Well, that may all be just a pipe dream. I have a problem with constant Urinary Tract Irritations, and my doctor recently told me to stop taking baths. I asked him if I couldn't just change soaps instead, but he didn't think that would be a fix (although he did say to avoid washing myself in that area).
Now, I ask you: how can you get clean if you don't wash yourself? Get real.
What do you guys use, if not soap?
Bev
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Hey Bev,
Missed you on the boards lately. I know you are busy with the house. Hope everything is coming along OK.
Yes! I am a bath person, too.  I usually use Ivory or Dove with no perfumes, dye's, etc. I use Tuck's Cleansing Pads, too. Also, make sure the wash detergent you use for your underwear has no perfume or dye in it. I use Cheer Free & Clear. That can also cause irritation...found out the hard way.
I've noticed that since menopause, I have more frequent but less severe urinary infections. Maybe discomfort for one day and then it's gone. Never have to take any meds for it.
One more thing. Probiotics might help to keep the good bacteria working. I know you take one but have you been taking it lately?
Just one of the things we "Old Broads" have to put up with!!!! 
Barbie
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Hey, Bev, sorry to hear about your dilemma! I'm afraid I can't help on this one. Good luck!
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Hey, Old Broad!
#78549 - 06/13/04 10:03 AM
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Bevvy
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Barbie, EXCELLENT tips here! THANKS! Cheer Free & Clear, eh? Okay. And how did you know I haven't been taking my probiotic? BUSTED! (It's just that I've had so much on my mind lately, I haven't been waking up at my usual probiotic-taking time (midnite).)
And you're also right -- I've had the worst time of it since the menopause thing. Damn, it's great being female.
Thanks again! And Dr. Laura -- what good are ya, anyways? 
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I've never heard of not washing in that area....I would think that would be the worst you could do to ward off urinary tract infections. One of the best things I've found (as suggested by the GYN nurse) is straight cranberry juice. Make sure you read the ingrediants and that cranberry juice is at or near the top of the list. The best I've found is Ocean Spray Cranberry Juice. I buy it by the gallon. And make sure you are drinking alot of water. {{{{{hugs}}}}}
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Not much, I guess! My experience with UTI is about 20 years ago, thank goodness. Back during the "honeymoon" days, if you know what I mean!!
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Hi, have you ever tried the "feminine" washes? I'm not sure what I have but it works a lot better than soap, doesn't irritate. I think Summer's Eve? Stuff like that...
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Feminine washes are great, but I guess you get different brands to me. I always switch to one when I get thrush flare-ups and they're really helpful.
A cranberry juice bath sounds fun tho!
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hey, Bevrs. this sucks! i used to get UTIs a lot. i am NOT a bath girl, though i know that those of you who are just LOVE it! 
i would recommend skipping bubbles if you use them in your bath. and go to Ivory (no dyes etc...) and use the Purex or Woolite for the wash on your underwear. changing detergents DEFINITELY helped me.
also---sorry to get personal --- get up and go to the bathroom to pee immediately after sex if you aren't already. it helps.
and cranberry juice.
basically, i have nothing new to add the other ladies didn't! hope you get it cleared up soon. i'm sure you can figure a way not to have to stop taking baths...
SMOOCHES.
oh, wait. i just remembered. my little niece was getting UTIs from the bath. they suggested letting her play in the bath as long as she wanted without washing, then standing her up to do the washing bit or washing her at the last minute and then getting her out of the tub immediately, so she's not sitting in the soap. maybe that will help.
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I've heard of that stuff. How do you use it? Do you put it on your wash cloth and then scrub your fun parts?
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Dr. Laura -- ?
#78638 - 06/13/04 03:38 PM
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Bevvy
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You're selling yourself short. If you used to get them but don't anymore, then what are you no longer doing that you used to do back then? Wait a minute.... nah, can't be that.
You solved the problem, Doc! So how'dja do it?!
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Barbie?
#78640 - 06/13/04 03:44 PM
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Did changing your laundry detergent really make that much of a difference? What about your fabric softener? (I love Downey.) Do you think that could be the culprit?
I'm pretty convinced it's the soap in my bath. I love Oscar liquid body bath, but I ran out so used Zest bar soap (I love the smell). I really hate Ivory and Dove. Ew.
I think I might have to go lightly on the soap in that area, and then after my bath take the hand shower and spray down there to make sure I rinse off all the soap. Of course, once we move into the new house and I have my jetted tub, I'll just .... oooh ... uh, never mind..... 
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Nugget -- ?
#78641 - 06/13/04 03:47 PM
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Bevvy
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So do you drink the Ocean Spray ALL the time? Or just when you feel the UTI coming on? And how much do you drink? Is it better than plain old water?
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My mom used to get infections all the time, so the things she taught us were as follows:
1. Use "free and clear" detergents and use the extra rinse. Don't wash anything funny with your undergarments.
2. Wear cotton underwear to allow proper "breathing."
3. Drink lots of water.
4. Don't sit on cold surfaces (sounds weird, I know).
5. Wash private parts with lots of water but nothing else.
6. Cranberry juice helps to cure infections.
7. Mom didn't teach me this one, but JenX is right: pee after sex.
Hope this helps.
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Hey There, WIW!
#78646 - 06/13/04 03:53 PM
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Bevvy
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How are ya, Girlfriend?! I just love to see your pretty face on your posts.
So you used to get UTIs but don't anymore? Is it because you no longer have sex? (Okay, sorry, that was just plain MEAN. Sometimes I can't control myself.)
So you no longer get UTIs because you always take showers? Or switched to Ivory?
I think the idea about your niece is a good one. Maybe I'll try using the hand shower massage after my bath (just to rinse off, mind you....) 
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Thanks, Ms. M!
#78649 - 06/13/04 03:55 PM
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Bevvy
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Good ideas here, thanks! Cold surfaces???? Okay.....
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#78650 - 06/13/04 03:55 PM
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It'll be the soap, I bet...just switch to a feminine-friendly ( ) brand and you'll be fine and dandy. I could never give up my baths.
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To Bev
#78653 - 06/13/04 04:14 PM
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Changing the laundry detergent did help especially with the irritation. And I forgot, the downy may irritate, too.
I love Downy but I use it on towels, etc. just not on underwear.
The Oscar body bath and zest soap could be causing it, too.
I don't like Ivory soap but the Dove isn't bad.
If you really don't want to give up the sweet smelling stuff try the probiotics, first. That may take care of it.
My doc told me that after menopause your tissue in "that area" changes and gets irritated and sometimes it can mimic a UTI. Everytime I went in thinking I had a UTI she tested and said, no. She gave me some Estrace Hormone Creme to use in "that area". Ask you doc about it next time you go in.. I'm glad my husband is on blood pressure meds because he is slowing down equivalent to my menopause changes.
We are on the same wavelength.....whew!
I will hold back the image of you in the whirlpool!! Ha Ha
Barbie
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Wow, Barbie!
#78658 - 06/13/04 04:31 PM
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Blood pressure meds does that? REALLY? I'm taking them too -- so does it do it to me too? Even though I'm 10 years younger than my hubby?
Your doc is right; the tissue is this area has most definitely gotten irritated! I've been using Vagisil moisturizer (say, you don't think that caused the irritation, do you?)?
Estrace Hormone Cream? HEY! I have some of this stuff! My doc prescribed it for me a hundred years ago, but I never used it. Think it's still any good? So do you insert it way up there, or just dab it around the area? Sorry, but I really want to know how you use this; it might be the answer for me.
Thanks, Barbie! You're a gem!
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My husband takes Altenol and Celexa and it has slowed him down a lot.(no complaints from me) Thank goodness, my blood pressure is OK so I'm not on anything. Menopause has slowed me down enough in that area. Good thing we are both in the same boat or there could be a problem. 
I can't use Vagisil or any of those cremes because they irritate me. My stomach isn't the only thing I have that is sensitive. KY jelly seems to be OK.
As far as the Estrace Creme, I just dab it about 3 times a week. You might call the pharmacist about whether your old prescription is still good.
Getting old is hell!!! Not really, though. I feel like I am in a really good place in my life right now. One good thing about menopause is that you don't have to worry about those darn periods anymore. I hear the other young girls complaining about that time of the month and YIPPEE I don't have to worry about that anymore!!!!
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Thanks Barbie!
#78672 - 06/13/04 05:20 PM
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I just tried a little of the Estrace cream about a half hour ago, and you know what, it's really calmed things down already!
You're THE BEST, Barbie!
About those periods? I never had them. Not a one. The ONLY advantage to being sterile.
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Hey Bev,
Yuck, I feel for you, I used to get UTIs all the time (starting at age 9), and I remember my first one was so bad I wouldn't stop crying and yelling, my mom end up making me an alcoholic "brown cow" just to shut me up and calm me down!
I have found that drinking more water really helps, I drastically increased my water intake about three years ago when I started working in call centres (I found 8 hours of constant talking really drying on the throat) and I stopped getting the UTIs as much. But I drink a lot of water. Can't really estimate how much per day, but I got through 6 18L bottles of water in a month, and I'm the only one who drinks it! Also, obviously cranberry juice helps too
I noticed you mentioned you didnt' like Dove and Ivory, I'm the same way, I love Zest and Lever 2000 but they're too harsh. This might sound silly, but I just keep two bars in the shower, one for the sensitive part and the one I like for the rest of me!
One other thing I thought of, and I don't know if this would help, but what about putting some epsom salts in the bath? This is a little personal, but I had to have a surgery quite a few years ago called a hymenectomy (hopefully you can guess what it is) and they recommended daily baths with epsom salts to prevent infection, so you would think it would work for UTIs too...but I'm just assuming.
Hope you feel better soon!
Kelly
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Actually it is that. But that's OKAY with me!! We get along better now in fact that we ever did before. Hey, I told you I was nuts!! You wouldn't believe me!
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I'll bet you ARE happier now. I'm not at all surprised. Sometimes sex gets in the way of a lot of stuff.
And you're wrong. I SOOOO believe you're nuts! Oh yeah.
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Kelly,
Just curious if you have kids? I only ask because my sister had to have a hymenectomy and had trouble during her first childbirth. She didn't want to have an episiotomy (sp?), but the perineum would just not give.
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Hello,
No I don't have kids, I'm still a fairly young one myself, I'm 22. I know my mom had to have an episiotomy with me, now she didn't need the hymenectomy but she did have a bit of trouble in that department so maybe it runs in the family?
Did your sister eventually have the episiotomy? I'm a wimp, I might go for elective c-section if I ever have kids
Kelly
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Hi Kelly!
#78804 - 06/13/04 09:15 PM
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Bevvy
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Hi Girlfriend! How are you feeling? Any residuals from the colonoscopy?
Thanks for the great ideas. Two bars of soap, eh? Well, DUH. Why didn't I think of that? Okay, yeah, I can do that. (I LOVE Zest too!) Okay, Zest for my bod and Ivory for my ... well....
Yeah, drink more water. Groan. I have to fight to get that stuff down me. I remember a time when it took me a week to get down one -- that's ONE -- sports bottle. A solid week! Now I manage to get down about 4 cups of water a day. Not much, I know; I've GOT to find a way to increase that! My fingers are so bloated, I can no longer wear any of my rings (and I had them all made larger just 3 years ago). The doctor was amazed when he saw them (not the rings, the fingers). He said that my blood pressure med is also a diuretic, so it should take care of the water retention. (It doesn't.)
Okay, so I'll just drink more water. My mother-in-law, bless her crazy, wild heart, loved beer -- it's all she ever drank. When I asked her why she never drank water, she said, "Are you kidding?! I piss in that stuff!"
Thanks for your post, Kelly. Hope you're doing well.
Bev
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Hey Bev
#78818 - 06/13/04 11:03 PM
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Hey Bev!
No results yet I'm afraid, although I spoke to the receptionist and she hinted that they didn't find anything, so we'll see. It's back to the doctor this week to get the results and hopefully a referral to a more competent GI doc who is actually willing to look at my gall bladder ultrasound results.
Wish me luck! And hope you feel better soon
Kelly
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Bev, I too have suffered with UTI's for years. I still bathe, Pure and Natural soap was suggested to me by a friend whose doc told her to use it. It comes in a bar, no high perfume, just a nice clean smell. In my part of the country, with the lovely humidity and heat, our skin will stick together, like under the arms, between the legs, behind the knees. I use powder for these areas, if by chance you may be using powder in your underwear, or give yourself a good dusting after the bath. No more, keep the powder away from the genital area.
I also use All Free and Clear, its a little cheaper than some of the others, but it gets those clothes clean.
HFCS, I do not drink juice period. I do take Cranberry Fruit, it comes in the vitamin section (I got mine at Walmart), follow the directions on the bottle, it comes in capsule form, take it every day for urinary health. great stuff.
I also take a maintenance anti-biotic, Macrodantin (rather cheap, its been around for a long time) every day. Boy, when i run out of it or decide i dont need it any more, I can tell a huge difference, a small mg dose does me fine.
Go ahead, take a bath, just dont use extremely hot water.
There is a soap substitute, Cetaphil, my grandmother used it. I think WM has thier own version. Try it out.
Wish I had a whirlpool bath, I know you will love it. Hope ya get better soon honey !!! gayla
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I use to suffer with UTIs for years. I love bathing! I switched to a chemical free soap called Miracle 2. I bathe in it and wash my hair with it too. I also wash my clothes in it to keep the chemicals away from my skin. I have not had a UTI in 3 years. You also need to stay hydrated and hit the cranberry juice, but you already know that. If you are interested in trying the soap, I'll send you some.
P.S. It makes great bubbles that are beneficial not harmful.
Leslie
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Bev
Have you tried squeezing some lemon or lime into your water?? I guess you have.
A friend of mine hates drinking plain water, but loves it with lemon in it.
Just a suggestion for you!!
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GROAN.
#78834 - 06/14/04 04:29 AM
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did you have to mention the sex thing!? i'm trying to forget that!
well, i'm not sure why i no longer get UTIs. i think a lot of it was the detergent issue. i never took baths. i bet i can count the number of baths i've taken since i was 6 on one hand!
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Thanks Leslie
#78846 - 06/14/04 05:33 AM
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What a generous offer!
I was hoping I wouldn't have to give up my Oscar, but I'm beginning to realize I will. Miracle 2, eh? Who makes it? Is there a web site?
Barbie led me to Estrace cream, which I used yesterday -- and I'm SOOOO much better today! Amazing.
Thanks again for the offer. I'll check into it.
Bev
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Gayla?
#78847 - 06/14/04 05:37 AM
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Bevvy
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Hey there!
Some great tips here. Thanks!
I'm busted. Yes, I DO use powder! Oscar body powder. Wow. So you don't even use baby powder? NOTHING?
And after the All Free & Clear, what do you use for a fabric softener?
Thanks again,
Bev
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Thanks Carmen
#78848 - 06/14/04 05:40 AM
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Bevvy
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Yeah, I tried the lemon. Maybe I'll try the lime.
I drink so much SoyFee every morning, how come my body doesn't use it like water? It's very unfair.
Bev
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I drink it every morning with breakfast....6-8 oz......and before and after being intimate with hubby. Cranberry juice minimizes the chances of bacteria sticking to the lining of the bladder.
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Just wanted to let you know you're right one when it comes to the cranberry juice. Helps UTI and kidney stones as well. Since my husband has had soooooo many problems with kidney stones the Urologist recommended he drink lots of it as it really does help.
Great Job!
Pat
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Re: Gayla?
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Quote:
And after the All Free & Clear, what do you use for a fabric softener?
Thanks again,
Bev
I use All Free & Clear Detergent. Purex is good too. I found Downy Free & Sensitive Fabric Softener at Wal-Mart. Not all of them carry it though (there are several in the area where I live)! I had to give up everything with fragrance and dye because of my allergies.
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I had kidney stones, too before drinking cranberry juice regularly.
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Thanks, Cutie! I put it on my grocery list. I'll have some every morning with my Soyfee.
I'm feelin' better already.
You're a keeper!
Bevvy
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I use Victorias Secret Shimmer Powder!!! Wow, how do I love this stuff!!!
Nothing between the legs Bev, I do use just enough baby powder between the thighs. Works fine!!!
After all of this, I have not considered my fab. softener, period. What an idiot!! Downy does make a free and clear type. Walmart, only some WM's though have it.
Good luck honey, keep on taking those baths. Probably a man doc, huh? Wouldn't doubt it, men have no clue what it means to a woman to take a good soak !!!! Have your baths, cut back on Oscar, hehe. gayla
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No problem Bev....hope it works for you. You are a keeper, too.
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#78969 - 06/14/04 12:34 PM
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She did end up having the episiotomy, which wasn't nearly as bad as the hours (hours!) my nephew was stuck in the birth canal because my sister was insistent on trying to do everything 100% naturally. Her midwife FINALLY said she thought an episiotomy was necessary, and as soon as she made the cut, out popped my nephew.
Just be aware that it may be an issue when you get there!
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I use the White Dove on my face and as Bev describes - my fun parts. Seems to work pretty good. You don't need anything harsh or a deoderant soap down in them there parts!
I checked out a book at the library not too long ago and it was facinating - called "the V book" or something like that. It was an entire book on female problem in the V area written by a GYN and she offers lots of advice of how to deal with problems. I swear it was call the V book or all about your V - it had a big V on the front but I swear it was a legit book.
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These may be repeats as I have not read every post in this forever long thread.
*Summer's Eve Femenine wash (sensitive skin) is the best!
*Wash with water (only) and cloth "before" intimacy and with fem. wash afterwards. (I know this may sound like it could ruin a heated moment, but if you're serious about ridding these UTIs, it's worth it and Dr. recommended)
*After you pee, wipe with a downward motion--front to back. NOT from below upwards. Doing that pushes bad stuff back into the urinary hole. (LOL, sorry don't know the actual term for that little hole. )
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Thanks Aunie
#79074 - 06/14/04 05:28 PM
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Good ideas, all of them. The last one was given to me by my doctor -- several times in fact.
I just put Summer's Eve on my grocery list -- as well as All "Free & Clear," Ocean Spray cranberry juice, Downey Free & Sensitive, and Ivory soap.
This is gonna be the last UTI I get!
Thanks again!
Bev
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Did you HAVE to mention Soyfee AGAIN!! You know I cant get it in Aus!!
Stop teasing. Not nice!! 
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#79102 - 06/14/04 06:23 PM
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Bevvy
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Carmen, I actually did NOT know you can't get SoyFee in Australia. Damn. I wonder what's up with that? And Marina doesn't ship to Canada either!
Gee, is there any way you can get this stuff? Do you know anyone who is coming to the States for a visit? Any friends here? Relatives?
Wait a minute. Why can't Marina ship it to you? Okay, so maybe the shipping charges will be kinda high, but it's still worth it, especially if you order a large quantity that will keep for a long period of time (it's vacuum-packed).
Did you ask her? She likes to ship via FedEx. Doesn't FedEx fly to Australia? E-mail her again, Carmen; don't give up. See what she can do for you -- if you order one or two 5-lb. bags: info@soycoffee.com
I really want you to be able to have this; you would just love it. I'm not teasing, I promise.
Bev
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Re: Whoa!
#79105 - 06/14/04 06:28 PM
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I haven't had a reply yet!  And I WANT some bad.
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What, Linzy?!
#79116 - 06/14/04 06:35 PM
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Bevvy
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You e-mailed Marina, and she didn't answer? That's not like her.
She told me she's had a "phenomenal" reaction from the Boards since I originally posted about the stuff, and had to tell her roaster to delay his vacation in order to keep up with the orders. So she's pretty busy right now.
I'm kinda thinking maybe she can't ship to England. I know she can't ship to Canada or Australia. And for the life of me, I can't figure out why. Do you have FedEx over there? I know she likes to ship via FedEx. If you're willing to pay the shipping charge, I don't know what the problem could be unless perhaps it's the duty, having to go through Customs?
Don't give up; keep e-mailing her. It's worth it!
Alternatively, do you know anyone coming over to the States for a visit? A friend who lives here, or family perhaps? What are the issues involved in shipping something overseas? Do you have to take it to Customs, do you know?
I have a feeling Marina is overwhelmed right now. She needs more help! Hey, think I might apply?
So is this your last shift at the old job, Linzy? Ohboyohboyohboy....
Bevvy
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#79117 - 06/14/04 06:41 PM
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Linz
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Nah, I have ONE more after this. And then I'm FREEEEEE!
Can't wait. My life is going to be one-big-round of sleeping, gardening, painting, cooking and wedding planning. Crazy, but all fun.
I'll persist with the coffee. I do want some bad.
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SoyFee For Linzy?
#79163 - 06/14/04 08:57 PM
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Hey Girlfriend!
I e-mailed Marina about shipping to Canada, Australia, and England -- and she just responded:
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We are working on expanding to accommodate international orders. I will try to help out lindsey. For international orders I'm willing to consider minimum orders of $60. Shipping would depend on locations.
A minimum order of $60 could include a 5-lb. bag and a 10-oz. bag -- or several 10-oz. bags of various flavors. You'll need to try all the different kinds first anyway.
SOOOO -- hand in there! Marina's on it! Yaay!
Bevvy
P.S.: Where'd she get "Lindsey?"
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I just e-mailed Marina about Linzy, who wants to order it too, but she's in England. I asked Marina what can be done about international orders. Here's her reply:
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We are working on expanding to accommodate international orders. I will try to help out lindsey. For international orders I'm willing to consider minimum orders of $60. Shipping would depend on locations.
So how 'bout that?! Yaay! You could order 6 ten-ounce bags of different flavors, for $60, which you would want to do anyway until you found the one you like best -- THEN you'd want to order the 5-lb. bag of your fave.
Yippee!
Bev
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www.miracleii.biz may have some information on the products. I can get it a little cheaper because they have a warehouse near me (and I know a guy that works there).
I beleave the name of the manufacturer is TEDCO. If you would like to give it a try, just let me know.
Leslie
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Youre the best!! Im going to get onto that straight away. It will be expensive - especially with exchange rates, but I dont care!!!
Thanks again. Youve made my day
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