Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ".....
#46741 - 02/26/04 12:18 PM
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Nugget
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I was wondering what your thought are on this controversial movie. I have not yet seen it, but I am drawn towards it. I was not raised in a church, never read the Bible....but, I do believe in God. I feel I am a spritual person.....but not real religious...if that makes sense. I am probably going to buy the movie when it comes out on DVD and watch in the privacy of my own home with my husband.
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Hmm... I haven't seen it, and don't plan to. I'm not religious either and some of the content worries me... like the fact that Satan is portrayed as a woman, and Mary Magdelene is a prostitute. Also, I don't really like super violent movies, which I've heard this is. I think that's the biggest factor actually! 
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I'm seeing it tomorrow, so I'll let you guys know how it is. A lot of people at my school have seen it already and said that it was the most powerful movie they've ever seen. It really changed their lives to see it. My religion class was goign to go see it, but in the end we agreed that if you go to the theaters yourself on your own free will and let the movie sink in, it'll be more impactful. I can't wait to see it actually! I can understand where you're coming from, Jenny, about the gore thing, but I think that seeing how Christ died would be amazing. Anyways, I'll tell ya if it's like, extremely gory or what. We had to reserve our tickets a month ago because knew they'd sell out. Our theater is sold out for two solid weeks here. Maybe someone on the boards has already seen it and can jump in!
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By the way, is Satan really portrayed by a woman?? What did you hear about this?
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Yeah, Satan is played by an androgynous woman (I looked her up on IMDB... here's a link to a picture...
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0335345/Ss/0335345/1202.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Celentano,%20Rosalinda )
I've heard that the film seems anti-women, but of course I haven't seen it and thus can't say anything. You should be able to let us know Jessica.
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Yeah, I'm really interested in seeing this film. I study trauma, violence, the Holocaust and other "happy" topics, so I'm really interested in how graphic this movie is. Not that I am in favor of filmic recreations of such violence, but this is a big question: How much violence is too much for an audience? What is the right balance to convey a particular message? Is there a saturation/
desensitization point? Things like that. So I'm interested to hear your reactions to the movie! Hopefully I'll see it this weekend.
As for the gender issue--that's kind of appropriate that an androgyneous woman plays Satan--sort of avoids the whole question! But apparently this movie does this in a lot of ways (like portraying Pontius Pilate as the opposite of his historically accurate cruel self).
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Wow... those are very cool subject matters. They overlap with what I do, as I study performance of all kinds. In fact this past weekend we were discussing the concept of "catharsis," whether or not the Greek idea that watching violence and horror would purge the audience of such emotions (sorry if you all already know about this) is still relevant, something we should try for in our theatre, or even something useful. Does it motivate us to rectify political wrongs or does it pacify us?
I would love to hear more of what you've found!!!
Two more things: How do you feel about the recent news stories that have come out where Mel Gibson's dad has denied the Holocaust, saying it was largely fictional? And also, I wonder about the portrayal of women's sexuality as an evil thing. I mean, Satan is traditionally a man, so making Satan a woman who refuses to accept her femininity (sort of the opposite of Mary Magdelene, who embraces it too much) is making quite a statement, I think.
Look at me, geeking out.
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I am not trying to pick a fight here, but Mary Magdalene was a prostitute. That is historical fact. And I think that Satan isn't so much supposed to be a woman as a figure. It is the age old question...we really don't know what God and Satan are. Man, Woman, Black, White?? Who knows? But, from what I understand, Mel Gibson does an excellent job with this film and is very close to the way it actually happened. I hope to see it ASAP.
I hope I don't cause any hard feelings....it is just my opinion, as I respect everyone elses here!
Christianne
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No hard feelings... though I will offer this as a rebuttle to the Magdelene as prostitute fact:
http://whosoeverwill.ca/womenscripturemmagdelene.htm
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I think I will probably see it when it finally comes up here. We normally don't get movies for a few weeks or even months after they've come out. we've got one theather in town with one screen that plays one movie a day for a few days.
I've been really impressed with the discussion that has arisen because of this movie. Although I've heard many people describe it as controversial, all the discussion I've seen about it from all sides of the religious spectrum has been civil and constructive. I think it's great that this movie gets people talking about important things rather than trival things like Janet Jackson's boob!
One thought that I had though, is that although this movie is very much based on the bible, it is still is art. It is written and directed by Mel Gibson and it is his point of view as to what happened. It may be exactly what really happened, but it may not and I think it's very important for people to keep this in mind.
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