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      #36823 - 01/12/04 12:44 PM
Bevvy

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I've been wondering for a long time what this is but I've been too embarrassed to ask. I don't want to appear stupid, but when I did aerobics (okay, it was back in the '80's, it wasn't THAT long ago!), this word was never used to describe a workout. It seems to have appeared out of the blue.

What the hell is a pilate?

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Re: Pilates new
      #36833 - 01/12/04 01:24 PM
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You know... I really don't have a clue... but from the search I did I ended up at Amazon... web page it just looks like "Pilates" is a brand. ??

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Re: Pilates new
      #36834 - 01/12/04 01:28 PM
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Ok... maybe I'm wrong...I just found this.... web page
Quote:

Suzi Lonergan's BodyPower - Pilates! Video

Product Description:
Pilates combines isometric exercises and limbering stretches that encourage increased strength and flexibility. Body Power Pilates illustrates the practice of Pilates in an easy-to-follow format. Instructor Suzi Lonergan leads this 40-minute workout with clear demonstrations and concise cueing. This program includes two sessions: a 15-minute basic application for beginners and a 25-minute intermediate set for more advanced students. Participants will find a workout to suit their distinct fitness level with the variation of intensity and difficulty offered by these two programs. Pilates terminology is explained and used throughout this video. Terms like "powerhouse" and "the frame" help students gain a better understanding of correct body alignment and add to the authenticity of this application. The core muscles of the abdomen get some intensive training here and the movements are quick and controlled. Because these postures require both skeletal and muscular strength, safety becomes a focus of the instruction. Suzi Lonergan's BodyPower - Pilates! revives youthfulness, increases strength and flexibility, increases energy and self confidence, strengthens your immune system, assures better, more restful sleep, improves posture, balance and coordination, creates strength without bulk, improves joint mobility, and enriches your sex life!





Hey.... right on.... "enriches your sex life"

Oh, you may wanna post your question the the yogo board too??

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Re: Pilates new
      #36839 - 01/12/04 01:45 PM
Bevvy

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Okay, NOW you've piqued my interest! That very last part -- where do I sign up?

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Re: Pilates new
      #36848 - 01/12/04 02:05 PM
jules

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It's SUCH a great workout. My future mother in law got Windsor Pilates for xmas and loves it.

I have Pilates for Dummies (I think I got this at Target) and Pilates Conditioning for Weight Loss. Here's a link to Windsor Pilates, which I have also: http://www.winsorpilates.com/index.php?acnt=GHWZZ01H

It's a great introduction to Pilates and well worth the cost. It strengthens your tummy, legs, backside, back, arms. It's made my legs leaner and I just feel more flexible all-around.

All the above DVDs are fine for beginners (esp. Dummies and Windsor), and also allow for growth within the video. You work at your own pace. I strongly recommend it.

I do both Pilates and Yoga (Yoga Conditioning for Weight Loss, Crunch! Yoga) regularly and not only do they both help me stay in shape, they help my IBS tremendously.

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I love Pilates! new
      #36851 - 01/12/04 02:06 PM
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I am a HUGE Pilates fan! I like it so much more than Yoga because it's structured differently... so much of the Yoga seems to me wrapped up in meditation and breathing and stuff, and frankly I don't have the patience for that. With Pilates, you do each exercise a few times and move on, so the time goes by really fast and it's really challenging. I've done both mat classes and machine classes, and I think the quality of the class depends on the instructor. I liked my instructor in St. Louis SO much, but the one in Austin is just ok.

Anyway, if you want to check it out, tons of places have classes these days (I took it at my Y in St. Louis and at school here in Austin). Look for somebody who is certified... non-certified people could really mess you up. I'd try to describe the exercises, but it's hard, so I'll just say it works on your abs, thighs, and butt, and who doesn't want those to be a little smaller and more toned?

I'm such a Pilates shill.

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Re: I love Pilates! new
      #36882 - 01/12/04 03:24 PM
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I am also a Pilates fan. I have Pilates for Dummies and Windsor Pilates. I like it so much more than Yoga. It has helped me so much with my IBS -- but it doesn't make me feel like I have strange stuff going on... like yoga does. I can do it - get it done -- and I feel great. I always feel like I could conquer the world after I'm done. I don't feel worn out -- and I am getting stronger so fast -- and yet not bulkier at all. Pilates was designed originally to help ballet dancers get in shape. They don't want bulky dancers though - even though they need to be strong -- so this is the system they used. I am not very... disciplined in using it and it is still working wonders for me. I can do the different movements better each time and my body is getting more and more toned and strong.

I never thought I could accomplish so much in so little time. It feels so good too!

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By The Way -- new
      #36887 - 01/12/04 03:32 PM
Bevvy

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Thanks for the info on pilates. Do you use resistance, like huge rubber bands?

By the way, I was in Austin for the National Rowing Championships on Town Lake a few years back. I thought I was going to die from the heat! The coach made me stroke the boat, and every chance we had, all 8 rowers took off our hats and dunked them in the water, then put them back on -- trying to cool us off. While we won a bronze, I remain convinced we'd have done a lot better had it not been for that unbearable heat.

And those fire ants -- OMG!

BUT -- you do have some great bars down there!

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Re: I love Pilates! new
      #36889 - 01/12/04 03:36 PM
Bevvy

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Hi, "mom" --

Is pilates also aerobics? Or is it just stretching? You do it on the floor? Jumping up and down? (You can tell I haven't done aerobics in a long time, can't you?!)

"Pilates For Dummies"? Okay, this book is for ME , Girlfriend!

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Re: Pilates new
      #36893 - 01/12/04 03:40 PM
Bevvy

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Jules, can you describe the pilates a little more? I'm really interested, but I can't do aerobics. I had all the cartilege surgically removed from my right knee after crushing it from running -- I can barely walk now without a lot of pain, so rowing is the only exercise I've found that works for me. How much impact is there with pilates? Do you test your heart rate as you work out? How long is the workout? I haven't seen anyone do this at the gym -- but all I ever do there is the rowing machine.

I'm really very interested. Thanks!

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Collage Video new
      #36899 - 01/12/04 03:55 PM
*Melissa*

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Hey Bev!

Check out www.collagevideo.com. All they sell is workout videos, and you can watch 1 min samples from the videos. Also, it tells the fitness level (beginner, intermediate), the impact, etc. You can also see others reviews for the videos.

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Re: Collage Video new
      #36918 - 01/12/04 04:12 PM
Bevvy

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Mags, I was able to get the audio -- but not the video. It sounds like there's no aerobics, so this might work for me. I gotta check this out some more.

Thanks, Girlfriend! Now get off those video games and onto that stitchery.

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Re: I love Pilates! new
      #36919 - 01/12/04 04:12 PM
chinagrl

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Pilates is NOT aerobics. It's a series of resistance exercises. You do use large rubber bands sometimes, but mostly your own body weight. You can get some aerobic exercise because it's tough! For example, for the hundreds you lie on your back and raise your legs to a 90 degree angle. Then you curl your head and shoulders off the ground using your abs. Then you pump your arms a hundred times. It's tough! It's more like weight training than either stretching or aerobics, though it will improve your flexibility.

It actually was designed to help soldiers in army hospitals rehabilitate, though dancers do use it. That's why it uses springs (bed springs) and body weight for resistance... it's what was handy!

I would check out a class and not a book or video. It is possible to do it wrong and hurt yourself.

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Re: Pilates new
      #36921 - 01/12/04 04:14 PM
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You can do Pilates with injuries, like I said it was designed for bed ridden soldiers. A good Pilates instructor will tell you how to modify the moves to avoid hurting your knee. You won't see anyone doing it at the gym because mostly you just need a mat!

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Re: I love Pilates! new
      #36922 - 01/12/04 04:16 PM
Bevvy

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Chinagrl, THANKS! Excellent explanation. Okay, I'm sold. Now I need to call the gym and find out about classes. Meanwhile, I think I'm gonna check out that crunch video Mags was talkin' 'bout.

Good stuff here -- THANK YOU BOTH!

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Wuuuuuus!!!! new
      #36939 - 01/12/04 04:35 PM
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Re: By The Way -- new
      #36941 - 01/12/04 04:36 PM
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Yeah, but I can't drink anymore.

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Re: I love Pilates! new
      #36944 - 01/12/04 04:45 PM
Kandee

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Get the book, and maybe a video tape, then you can decide. I got a number of videos and gave it a fair chance.

I now love yoga (had my first class in Austin with daughter who dragged me kicking and screaming) but Pilates is just to much for me now at this age even though it's for all ages. And this if from one who still does aerobics 6 days a week. Guess it's just what you get used to.

You may be in much better shape than me. To tell the truth I always hated exercise but it is a must the older we get, darn!

KK
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Re: Collage Video new
      #36961 - 01/12/04 05:06 PM
suzyq

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Bevrs I receive a Pilates video for christmas, boy I'm amazed at how much better it is than Aerobics. The Pilates are easy enough but is a great workout. I started last week and do them 3 times a week. I feel great after I do them. Try them!! Sue

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Re: Collage Video new
      #36966 - 01/12/04 05:19 PM
Bevvy

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Suzyq, what kind did you get? Is it a Collage Video? Or one of the Windsor kind? Where did it come from? (Mail order? Discount house?) Would you recommend yours over another kind?

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Re: Collage Video new
      #36979 - 01/12/04 05:56 PM
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Quote:

Suzyq, what kind did you get? Is it a Collage Video? Or one of the Windsor kind? Where did it come from? (Mail order? Discount house?) Would you recommend yours over another kind?




FYI - The Collage Video is the store - not a brand. They have the Winsor tapes.

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Re: I love Pilates! new
      #36986 - 01/12/04 06:09 PM
kshsmom

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Where did you get this info on Pilates? I read on the Pilates site that the first people to use it were dancers - so that's what I thought was true.

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Re: Collage Video new
      #36990 - 01/12/04 06:12 PM
Bevvy

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I need SOOO much help getting through this life . . .

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Re: I love Pilates! new
      #36991 - 01/12/04 06:16 PM
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I haven't used any props at all -- I have just been on the floor - with a mat. I can't do all that jumping around myself. I also don't have a lot of time to spare -- so I've been doing the 20 min workout. Having said all that -- I am down 34 pounds and 40 inches. I also am not even all that disciplined in it -- and only do it a couple times a week -- and only started about a month to a month and a half ago. It has really helped with shaping and toning my body.

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Re: I love Pilates! new
      #36996 - 01/12/04 06:20 PM
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Okay, that's it. I'm ordering it. 34 pounds and 4 inches. In only a month and a half?! Wow! That's very impressive, Girlfriend!

A month and a half from now -- lets see, that's March -- very close to rowing season..... I'm Goin' For It!

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Re: I love Pilates! new
      #36999 - 01/12/04 06:24 PM
kshsmom

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oops - wait a minute -- that's my total -- Pilates was for the last part of that. Let's see -- Pilates helped me go from a size 16/18 to a size 12/14 in a month & a half. I was losing weight -- but not toning up -- the Pilates made me tone up. The inches really started coming off once I started Pilates. I have been losing the weight since I started eating for IBS -- which has been 19 weeks. I am sorry -- I didn't mean to be misleading. Forgive me?

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Re: I love Pilates! new
      #37007 - 01/12/04 06:35 PM
chinagrl

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My Pilates instructor trained with Joseph Pilates wife... he's the one who invented it. She's the one who told me about the history.

Quote:

In 1912 Pilates moved to England and began training detectives at Scotland Yard. However, when the war broke out, because of his nationality, he was interned in Lancashire and then on the Isle of Man. Pilates spent the duration of the war helping out in the camp infirmary and further developing his techniques. He devised makeshift exercise aids by attaching bedsprings in various positions so that patients recovering from injuries could exercise safely. Modern versions of this equipment can be found in Pilates studios today and are known as reformers.





That's from http://www.pilatespeople.co.uk/pilates_founder.html

pilates.com has the same info...

but this: http://www.pilates-studio.com/docs/guild/guild.htm
seems like the official certification program, and thus the best source of accurate info.

There are a lot of people running around teaching Pilates that aren't really certified or correctly trained in the method... I've heard lots of horror stories!

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Re: Collage Video new
      #37008 - 01/12/04 06:36 PM
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Don't we all.

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Re: I love Pilates! new
      #37028 - 01/12/04 07:06 PM
kshsmom

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Very interesting -- thanks for sharing!

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Re: I love Pilates! new
      #37029 - 01/12/04 07:15 PM
chinagrl

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No problem... I'm on a mission to convince the world to do Pilates. So far I've converted two people. Three if we count Bev. I'm starting small.

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Re: I love Pilates! new
      #37035 - 01/12/04 07:31 PM
Bevvy

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No way. I already ordered it, Girlfriend! Now I'm expecting the same results! Hey -- did you see the commercial on TV about the guy dating the lady who told him she loves pilates -- and he replied, "Oh, I LOVE drinking those!"

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Re: I love Pilates! new
      #37036 - 01/12/04 07:36 PM
Bevvy

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WOW! What did I start!?!? It was just an innocent question, "what's pilates?" and what a thread we've ended up with! I had NO IDEA there would be so many supporters out there -- only one dissenter (but wouldn't you know, it would be KK!) Hey! Wait a minute -- whaddya mean by that, "I'm starting small" --???

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Re: I love Pilates! new
      #37050 - 01/12/04 09:03 PM
chinagrl

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Well, for a crusade to introduce the world... three people in three years is not that impressive.

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Re: I love Pilates! new
      #37064 - 01/13/04 05:41 AM
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I did -- too funny! Which tape did you order?

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Re: I love Pilates! new
      #37076 - 01/13/04 06:54 AM
sugar

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Sign me up! I'm doing a 6 week ab and butt workout. I just
started my third week (intermediate). It's working out
very well for me and it's just a total of 6 minutes for
the stomach and 10 for the butt and theigh. I'm amazed
at how great its working. It's a Denise Austin tape.
When I'm done with this I'm going
to look into pilates. I've seen the infomercial and
was thinking about it but you have convinced me.

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Re: Collage Video new
      #37077 - 01/13/04 07:04 AM
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Quote:

I need SOOO much help getting through this life . . .




ROFL...your so funny.

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Ordering Winsor Pilates! new
      #37100 - 01/13/04 08:19 AM
Bevvy

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I ordered Winsor basic video, workout video, "Winsor dozen" (??) and "sculpting journal with a $40 bonus of accelerated body sculpting video and the Win-in-10 meal plan" (??)

I have no idea what I ordered.

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Re: Ordering Winsor Pilates! new
      #37102 - 01/13/04 08:23 AM
kshsmom

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That's what I use -- it's good stuff! It can be tough -- but she does have modifications too - for those who either aren't strong enough - or have bad backs, necks etc. My advice - start small and work up.

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Re: Collage Video new
      #37113 - 01/13/04 08:47 AM
suzyq

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Bevrs I bought this one from the Zellers store. About $9.00. It is CRUNCH Fitness! "Fat Burning PILATES" featuring Ellen Barrett."Standing Pilates-Inspired Moves Combined With Classic Mat Pilates". Ellen Barrett,instructor at Crunch Los Angeles.
This one caught my eye because the package was bright green! and because it says winning combination:calorie-burning cardio along with Pilates-based toning. This combo workout can help you sculpt your bady AND burn fat.
This is my first time trying Pilates. and I really enjoy them. Hope this helps. I haven't tried others so no comparison. Sue

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Re: Ordering Winsor Pilates! new
      #37392 - 01/14/04 10:43 AM
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Hi Bevrs,

I haven't had a chance to go thru the rest of the posts here, but I'm sure that people described Pilates to you. It's not aerobic, but more isometric. You are on the floor a lot so you won't have to worry about your knees, etc.

You basically got three videos, one is a basic video which instructs you on what Pilates is and how you do it correctly to get the most benefit out of it. The second is a 20-minute "quickie" workout video. The third is a one-hour workout video. Do either depending on how much time you can devote to a workout. I do Pilates up to five days a week.

The meal plan is basically a throw-away (at least it was for me).

HTH! and good luck. Post back here after you do a coupla workouts. I'm curious as to how you'll like it.

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Thanks Jules! new
      #37393 - 01/14/04 10:50 AM
Bevvy

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Hey, thanks, Jules! You explained it FAR better than the gal in the ordering department. We went around and around -- she just couldn't explain it to me, and I finally gave up asking. I really had no clue was the heck I was getting!

I'm looking forward to trying it. I won't get the tapes for 2-3 weeks -- but, yeah, I'll keep you posted after I try it.

Five days a week, you say? Wow. You must have buns of steel, eh?!?

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Did you get your tapes yet Bev? new
      #42359 - 01/31/04 04:55 PM
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I saw the informercial on TV today for this and thought of you. Just wondering if you got them yet.

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Uh-Oh new
      #42383 - 01/31/04 06:15 PM
Bevvy

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I was afraid someone might ask me. Mags, I'm gonna get you for this!

Yeah, I got them. Right now, they're sitting next to me in the box they came in, buried underneath my volume of "The First Year", my IBS recipe collection binder, my 2003 tax papers, and all our papers on the new house. I'm pretending I forgot where they disappeared.



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Re: Uh-Oh new
      #42387 - 01/31/04 06:50 PM
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LMBO - What happened?

Actually, I was thinking about trying them, but I always thought I'd never be able to do them. So, I'll wait till I hear from you. Also, I didn't want to spend the money on them right now. BUT, I just remembered - I won $40 at that party I went to last night. Isn't that how much they were? It must be a sign!!

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Monday new
      #42394 - 01/31/04 07:14 PM
Bevvy

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Actually, I DO intend to get into it, I really do. I promise I do. The package got buried under all this stuff, and you know how organized I am -- it's bugging me something terrible -- but my mind is focused so much right now on the house and blueprints and carpeting and curtains and rag rugs and dishwashers and butcher block and ceramic tile and stoves and microwaves and fabric and SOMEBODY STOP ME!

I'll do it. I will. I can't tomorrow, 'cause we're goin' down to the property and check out the progress of the underground utilities. But Monday. Yeah, Monday. I'll do it Monday. I'll let you know how it goes.

I saw that informercial too. It really DOES look pretty good -- especially for someone getting married in, oh, say 8 months?

It's Winsor Pilates, and there are four tapes: "Basics," "Power Sculpting," "20-Minute Workout," and "Accelerated Body Sculpting." It cost $46.85 (including shipping & handling). The number to call is 1-800-252-2226. GOFERIT, Girlfriend!

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Re: Monday new
      #42409 - 01/31/04 07:48 PM
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So, I should just consider it a wedding expense? LOL

Thanks for the info. I'll wait for the review, just to be safe.

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      #42419 - 01/31/04 09:53 PM
Kandee

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Dishwashers? Did you say your mind was focused on dishwashers?
You going to get the same model as the kind I just got?

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Re: Monday new
      #42514 - 02/01/04 05:10 PM
Andie

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You should really think about it! I got the Winsor Pilates CDs last summer and love them. I mostly do the 20 minute one because I try to do 45 min. on the treadmill too, so I only have time for the 20 min. one (and only 2-3 x/week at that!). But its great - really great for the abs! They are calming and strengthening at the same time. And they seem to have a better deal now - I only got the 20 min. CD and the accelerated (60 min.) one for $40. Bev got a power pilates one too for the same price. Just my 2 cents, for what its worth! Andie

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      #42520 - 02/01/04 05:29 PM
*Melissa*

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Thanks Andie - you're two cents is worth a lot to me!

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      #44245 - 02/11/04 05:41 AM
sugar

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Loc: Calistoga, CA

I just ordered Winsor Pilates. I'm looking forward
to them arriving but I am just a bit worried that
it's going to be to hard for me.

You can add me to your list of converts..

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Re: I love Pilates! new
      #44265 - 02/11/04 07:42 AM
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Best thing about Pilates is that you can "grow into it". If you stink at first (and I did) just keep plugging away, doing the poses correctly and to the best of your ability. You will find that you get stronger and more flexible if you're committed to it and do it at least three times a week.

My fiance and I do one with resistance bands (we've been going at it for a while) that help to enhance the workout (make it harder).

Good luck everyone! This is the best exercise that I have found in a while. It's something that I actually look forward to doing!

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Re: I love Pilates! new
      #44444 - 02/11/04 07:32 PM
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Sweet! I'm up to four people! Don't worry... it's definitely something that you improve every time you do it. When I go a few months without doing it (as I did over break) I really bite too... but then in a couple of weeks I'm back to doing pretty well. And it does help me eliminate bloating... even if I'm not doing every exercise the best possible way!

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