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Mi Medical Marijuana Expo and IBS
      #348693 - 08/03/09 12:19 PM
michele

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Hello everyone, I'm an old timer here, its always good to see so many new faces! I haven't been posting much because I have been very busy working with the new Medical Marijuana (MM) laws in my state of Mi. We are the 13th state to pass medical rights for the use of marijuana.

As with any state in the US, you must have a qualifing condition in order to get your legal state card. IBS is a qualifing condition and helps not only my tummy issues but it also helps with my chronic pain and other symptoms from my sarcoidosis.



Here is the link to the expo
http://www.mmmexpo2009.com/

Here is a link to the Mi Medical Marijuana Association, lots of good info to be found there, just click on the headers across the top or read through the threads.
http://michiganmedicalmarijuana.org/

If anyone would like more info or would like to talk in private about this, please feel free to email me, my info is in my profile, just be sure to indicate you to from the IBS board so I don't think you are spam!

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      #348723 - 08/04/09 06:58 AM
Kappy

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I'm at work, so I can't say much, but I know that MS needs to pass this law as well. I do not have a prescription, but I know it helps me, ALOT! It's the only thing that gets rid of the pain!

I might move to Michigan! LOL.... Or one of the other 13 states! LOL..

Thanks for the INFO!!!!

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Re: Mi Medical Marijuana Expo and IBS new
      #348728 - 08/04/09 08:14 AM
michele

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You are welcome. I think that over the next few years more and more states will pass medical usage laws and we will start seeing the decriminalization for small amounts. To me, I think its ABSURD that there are so many people locked up for non violent, first offense possession of a simple plant. A simple plant that has proven medicinal benefits and that not one single person has ever died from.

Since I've started using MM, I have been able to completely eliminate one anti-depressant and lycria-a drug used for neuropathy pain with a lot of side effects and I have cut WAY back on my vicodin use. I was taking 4-6 a day, now I take 4-6 a WEEK!

For those of you that this may be a new concept for, know that you no longer have to smoke marijuana to enjoy the benefits it has to offer. You can use a vaporizer, google volcano if you are interested. Mediables, food made from marijuana oil, are wonderful. You can make so much more than just brownies!!! You can even use the leaf material to put into capsules to get the anit inflammatory effects of the CBD's (one of the compounds in marijuana) and because there is such little amounts of THC in that, most people don't get that "high" feeling associated with marijuana. I have also found that the capsules we make using our leaf matter help keep me more regular.

MM has improved my depression greatly and decreased my anxiety. My shrink thinks its a great alternative for me as well. The constant nausea I was expierencing has greatly improved, I rarely throw up anymore. The anti inflammatory properties help with my swelling greatly and actually improves my IBS problems.

Also keep in mind that there are MANY, hundreds at least, different strains of marijuana. First off, what you may have bought as a teenager in high school is NOT medical grade. Medical grade is grown with care, mine is all organic and comes from the best genetics available. Certain strains cause different feelings and helps certain problems better. The main two types of medical marijuana are indica's and sativia's. Indica's are short, more dense plants that produce a "body" high, more like a narcotic pain medicine. When most people think about marijuana this is what they usually invision. It can make you just want to be lazy, it can be body numbing so good for extreme pain and usually gives people the munchies. The sativa's are much taller plants that usually take longer to grow and produce more of a cerbreal high. Sativa's are a very energetic "up" type of feeling. Excellent for depression, tends to make people more social.

Within those two main types there are hundreds of strains. Certain strains work better for certain people. The strain Blueberry I find will kill my nausea with just the smallest amount. If I am having a bad pain day, I have a strain called RX that was designed for pain relief.

At our Compassion Meetings, which we hold every month at local libraries, we get all sorts of people. Sure, there is always a kid or two thinking this is just a cool way to legally get high and we discourage them from our groups very quickly. The majority of people are your average Joe. We have several older couples that have never used medical marijuana before but because of serious health issues like cancer and MS, they are trying it and I think thats wonderful. For the most part, its about people coming together that either haven't received adequate relief from traditional medicines or they are looking for alternative, more natural relief without all the harsh side effects from most modern pharmacuticals (sp? sorry, spell check on the blink!)

This is something I am very passionate about and I feel that it can help a lot of people with a lot of different illnesses. Try googling Rick Simpson Oil, he has made a concentrate oil and it has been proven to actually kill certain types of cancer. If this just isn't your cup of tea, I respect that but please have an open mind to those that do find relief from something so natural.



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      #348733 - 08/04/09 11:06 AM
Lisa Marie

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This is SO awesome, Michele! I am so happy to hear that you have found something that really works for you!!! Are you still working at your old job, or have you started a new career as a result of this change in legislation? Are you growing your own plants, or do you get the finished product from somewhere? I don't personally have a need for this, but I think it's about time we headed in this direction. I agree with you 100% about decriminalization!

Anyway, just very curious about how this all works! I'm pretty sure my state, CO, is one of those 13...

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Re: Mi Medical Marijuana Expo and IBS new
      #348735 - 08/04/09 12:08 PM
michele

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At the moment, I'm still working for the optometrist but I am hoping to change that in the near future. In our state, the law says that each patient is legally allowed to grow 12 plants. If you are unable/unwilling to grow your own, you can assign a caregiver. So, lets say you were a patient and needed medication but can't grow your own for whatever reason. You would name me your caregiver, we have to register that with the state and than I am allowed to grow your plants for you for a service fee. Each patient/caregiver can add up to five other people as there own patients.

The law is very new here and there are no provisions for dispensaries like you see in CA. However, me and several others have formed a type of co-op. We also plan on opening a club house of sorts if you will. We are putting together the business plan right now and plan to meet with some city officials in the next couple of weeks.

Its been a fun journey for me. I admit to having used marijuana before it was legal but I have never grown it before or even knew anyone who did. I can say that I have successfully grown and harvested my first crop of medical marijuana. There is a lot to learn about the process and it can be very tricky but its a great hobby and very relaxing for me.

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Re: Mi Medical Marijuana Expo and IBS new
      #348741 - 08/04/09 04:29 PM
Gerikat

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I think you are positively, absolutely wonderful, and I don't even know you. For those who would judge, let them walk a mile in your shoes. How incredible that you are helping others, when I detect that your day-to-day life cannot be easy. God forbid, if I complain about a little headache, when hearing what you deal with on a daily basis is mind-blowing. For that matter, the IBS pales in comparison.

I so admire you and what you are doing. You sound very knowdgeable about MM, and I hope people take advantage of that knowledge. God Bless You!!!

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Re: Mi Medical Marijuana Expo and IBS new
      #348748 - 08/04/09 09:42 PM
mrae

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Are you ibs-d or c?

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      #348756 - 08/05/09 12:22 PM
michele

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Thank you! The past 6-7 years have not been easy for me. However, I'm am learning to adjust to my new normal and my limitations.

I feel very passionate about the MM cause as I feel it can really help a lot of people with a wide variety of illness and issues. I think once people become more informed about the benefits of cannabis and see that we are normal, everyday people that go to work and pay taxes, peoples perceptions will change.

I just find it very odd that people will accept the fact that I am ill and in pain so its ok to load me up on oxycodone 40mg twice a day AND 2 vicodin every 6 hours a day and tell me to get a scooter chair if it hurts too much to walk. I don't even remember 6 months of my life from pain pills that I took EXACTLY as I was prescribed by a pain management doctor. I won't even tell you what HELL the withdrawal was. Not to mention the THOUSANDS of people that die from prescription pain pills yearly. All thats ok but if I chose to treat myself, with a doctors recommendation no less, with a plant that grows naturally-than I must be a criminal and a druggie.

Thats what this expo is about. Teaching and learning. Acceptance. Control of our own health care.

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Re: Mi Medical Marijuana Expo and IBS new
      #348757 - 08/05/09 12:29 PM
michele

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I used to be C from the time I was about 15 up until I was about 36 or so. Than I had a major change to extreme D, like 20 times a day sort of thing for long while. I just turned 39 and I guess I'd have to say I alternate between the two currently.

The actual medical marijuana "bud" may or may not help with C or D but for most people it helps with the pain and cramps. If I am C, taking the capsules made from the leaf material seems to help get things moving more than anything. If I am having a D attack, smoking, or in my case vaporizing the bud material works better to alleviate the painful, explosive D and cramping.

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      #348764 - 08/05/09 05:32 PM
Gerikat

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Michelle- it's all about control and $$$$. If an organization cannot control and make money off it or patent it, well, they are going to make your life h*** to get it. It is a dirty rotten shame that the FDA, government, AMA, and all the other crap organizations out there, have so much control over our lives.

Of course it makes sense to use MM instead of these potent, addictive, life-threatening drugs. Prescription drugs kill more people than illegal drugs, and it's legal! The idiots try to market these drugs not only to the elderly, but to our kids...just look at TV. They are a bunch of morons in my opinion, and I am glad we have someone like you, trying to educate their sorry a****.

And also let me say, from looking at your pic, you are a very beautiful woman on the outside too, despite what you go through on a daily basis.

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Re: Research and information new
      #348772 - 08/06/09 08:57 AM
michele

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http://www.alternet.org/drugreporter/141522/is_big_pharma_trying_to_take_all_the_fun_out_of_pot_/?page=1

All I can say is you are right!



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Re: Research and information new
      #348776 - 08/06/09 11:07 AM
michele

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Cannabis effective at relieving pain after major surgery
http://www.news-medical.net/?id=17995

Cannabinoids, in combination with (NSAIDS), produce a synergistic analgesic effect
http://www.medjournal.com/forum/show...87&postcount=1

Cannabinoids Among Most Promising Approaches to Treating Neuropathic Pain,
http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/...ource=r_health

Cannabinoid analgesia as a potential new therapeutic option (may need free registration)
http://www.medscape.com/medline/abstract/16449552

Analgesic and adverse effects of an oral cannabis extract (Cannador) for postoperative pain
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=184

Delta-9-THC based monotherapy in fibromyalgia patients
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=194

Add-on treatment with the synthetic cannabinomimetic nabilone on patients with chronic pain -
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=197

Nabilone significantly reduces spasticity-related pain
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=200

Synergistic affective analgesic interaction between delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol and morphine.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=178

Are oral cannabinoids safe and effective in refractory neuropathic pain?
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=143

Dronabinol in the treatment of agitation in patients with Alzheimer's disease with anorexia
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=61

Cannabis use for chronic non-cancer pain
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=91

Tetrahydrocannabinol for treatment of chronic pain
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=147

Analgesic effect of the cannabinoid analogue nabilone
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=203

The perceived effects of smoked cannabis on patients with multiple sclerosis.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=13

Pain relief with oral cannabinoids in familial Mediterranean fever.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=18

The effect of orally and rectally administered delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol on spasticity
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=12

Marihuana as a therapeutic agent for muscle spasm or spasticity.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=53

Analgesic effect of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=16

The analgesic properties of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol and codeine.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=17

Most pain patients gain benefit from cannabis in a British study
http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/...el.php?id=84#1

Cannabis, pain, and sleep: lessons from trials of Sativex, a cannabis-based medicine.
http://marijuana.researchtoday.net/archive/4/8/1384.htm

Cannabis: Use in HIV for Pain and Other Medical Symptoms
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...ca04d8bd433c52

Ajulemic acid: A novel cannabinoid produces analgesia without a "high"
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...cea7fb6b9bd2a5

Therapeutic Aspects of Cannabis and Cannabinoids
http://www.ukcia.org/research/Thereputic/Therapeut.htm

Whether whole plant Cannabis extracts can improve intractable neurogenic symptoms?
http://www.ukcia.org/research/WholeP...icSymptoms.pdf

ANALGESIC AND ANTIINFLAMMATORY ACTIVITY OF CONSTITUENTS OF CANNABIS SATIVA L.
http://www.ukcia.org/research/Analge...stituents.html

NOVEL SYNERGISTIC OPIOID-CANNABINOID CODRUG FOR PAIN MANAGEMENT
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?WO=2008045556

Nabilone for the treatment of pain in fibromyalgia.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17974490

Cannabis reduces opioid dose in the treatment of chronic non-cancer pain.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=148

CANNABIS AND MARINOL IN THE TREATMENT OF MIGRAINE HEADACHE
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/migrn2.htm

Dronabinol reduces signs and symptoms of idiopathic intracranial hypertension
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=181

Cannabis and Migraine
http://www.pacifier.com/~alive/cmu/c...d_migraine.htm

Clinical Endocannabinoid Deficiency
http://www.freedomtoexhale.com/clinical.pdf

Hemp for Headache
http://www.freedomtoexhale.com/hh.pdf

Chronic Migraine Headache
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/migrn1.htm

Cannabis for Migraine Treatment: Once and Future Treatment?
http://www.druglibrary.org/crl/pain/...ne_%20Pain.pdf

Cannabinoids block release of serotonin from platelets induced by plasma from migraine patients
http://www.ukcia.org/research/Cannab...Platelets.html

Migraine may be related to under production of cannabinoids
http://www.illinoisnorml.org/index2....o_pdf=1&id=755

Cannabinoids Among Most Promising Approaches to Treating Neuropathic Pain
http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/...ource=r_health

Cannabis-based medicine in central pain in multiple sclerosis
http://www.neurology.org/cgi/content.../65/6/812?etoc

Cannabis in painful HIV-associated sensory neuropathy
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=199

Smoked cannabis therapy for HIV-related painful peripheral neuropathy
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=172

Two cannabis based medicinal extracts for relief of central neuropathic pain
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=143

Cannabis based medicinal extracts (CBME) in central neuropathic pain due to multiple sclerosis.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=82

Analgesic effect of the synthetic cannabinoid CT-3 on chronic neuropathic pain
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=85

Smoked cannabis in painful peripheral neuropathy and cancer pain refractory to opiods.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=96

Analgesic effect of the cannabinoid analogue nabilone
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...w.php?s_id=203

The perceived effects of smoked cannabis on patients with multiple sclerosis.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=13

Cannabis based treatments for neuropathic and multiple sclerosis-related pain.
http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medli...s_related_pain

Whether whole plant Cannabis extracts can improve intractable neurogenic symptoms?
http://www.ukcia.org/research/WholeP...icSymptoms.pdf

Efficacy of 2 Cannabis based medicinal extracts for relief of central neuropathic pain
http://www.ukcia.org/research/Centra...inEfficacy.pdf

A randomized, placebo-controlled, crossover trial of cannabis cigarettes in neuropathic pain.
http://marijuana.researchtoday.net/archive/5/6/1703.htm

Medicinal Marijuana Effective For Neuropathic Pain In HIV,
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0806113135.htm

Cannabidiol is an oral anti-arthritic therapeutic in murine collagen-induced arthritis
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/97/17/9561

The Cannabinergic System as a Target for Anti-inflammatory Therapies
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/conten...00013/art00008

Sativex in the treatment of pain caused by rheumatoid arthritis
http://rheumatology.oxfordjournals.o...stract/45/1/50

Suppression of fibroblast metalloproteinases by ajulemic acid,
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16927387

The antinociceptive effect of Delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol in the arthritic rat
http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medli...inoid_receptor

Synergy between Delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol and morphine in the arthritic rat
http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medli..._arthritic_rat

Cannabis based medicine eases pain and suppresses disease
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/33376.php

Pot-Based Drug Promising for Arthritis
http://www.webmd.com/rheumatoid-arth...-for-arthritis

Anti-inflammatory compound from cannabis found in herbs
http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/Ne...e/24060801.asp

ANALGESIC AND ANTIINFLAMMATORY ACTIVITY OF CONSTITUENTS OF CANNABIS SATIVA L.
http://www.ukcia.org/research/Analge...stituents.html

US Patent 6132762 - Transcutaneous application of marijuana
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6132762.html

Delta-9-THC based monotherapy in fibromyalgia patients
http://www.immunesupport.com/library...293&t=CFIDS_FM

Clinical Endocannabinoid Deficiency
http://www.freedomtoexhale.com/clinical.pdf

Cannabis Sativa (Marijuana) for Fibromyalgia
http://www.fibromyalgia-reviews.com/Drg_Marijuana.cfm

THC Reduces Pain in Fibromyalgia Patients
http://www.illinoisnorml.org/content/view/63/35/

Fibromyalgia: Effective Treatment with Medical Marijuana
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/n...gia_112807.php

Cannabis Science: Nabilone reduced chronic pain caused by fibromyalgia
http://bbsnews.net/article.php/20071111150357312

Fibromyalgia and Medical Marijuana
http://www.webmd.com/fibromyalgia/gu...ical-marijuana

Nabilone for the treatment of pain in fibromyalgia.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17974490

ANALGESIC AND ANTIINFLAMMATORY ACTIVITY OF CONSTITUENTS OF CANNABIS SATIVA L.
http://www.ukcia.org/research/Analge...stituents.html

Why Cannabis Stems Inflammation
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0720222549.htm

Cannabidiol decreases bone resorption by inhibiting RANK/RANKL expression and pro-inflammatory cytokines during experimental periodontitis in rats.
http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medli...titis_in_rats_

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Re: Mi Medical Marijuana Expo and IBS new
      #349961 - 09/14/09 05:46 PM
sarahgon

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Thankyou so much for this thread! I have been suffering the worst bout of my ibs for the last yr with, of course, no help from the docs! I am now taking care of my pain with Percocet. I have to take 3 at a time to even touch the pain. I am thinking this is pretty crazy and I don't want to spend the rest of my life this way. I need to function!! I was just thinking of trying MM. I am glad you mentioned the difference between MM and the stuff we bought as teenagers because that is not what I wanted! I have been off my antideps for 6 months now and don't want to go back on but I need something! This sounds like exactly what I need to do. Thankyou for sharing!! Sarah

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      #350008 - 09/16/09 11:22 AM
michele

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I hope I answered most of your questions in your email but if not, let me know, I'm happy to help.

My personal organization here is Michigan is called the Macomb/Oakland Compassion Club. We are a group of individuals who are patients and LEGAL medical growers. We host open meetings to the public through out our area to teach people about the new laws, the different strains, the medical benefits, growing advice and we even offer legal caregiver services to provide you with your meds if you are unable to grow your own.

Its been a big adventure for me and I'm having a ton of fun as well! We are in the process of putting together a FUNdraiser for our club, its going to be a hayride and bonfire and should be a blast.

If there are any legal patients here in MI who might be interested in attending, shot me an email. Its Oct 10th.

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