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Re: Thanks for the reply new
      #332686 - 07/17/08 01:33 PM
fancymom

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Actually, the ezekiel bread is gluten free. And I do still take the acacia occasionally(maybe once or twice a week). Most days I take fibercon.

Fruits I eat: Peaches, Pears, bananas, plums. All peeled. NO APPLES...they tear me up!
Veggies I eat: Yellow and zucchini squash, white and sometimes sweet potatoes, mushrooms, yellow/red peppers(I peel those), and small amounts of romaine lettuce. I cook ALL my veggies(except the lettuce) until very soft. Steam them until soft & tender, that way they won't loose their nutrients. Sometimes I even mash them and put a little soy cheese on top. They taste awesome that way! NO CORN, and NO ONIONS.

I probably eat 2-3 sevings of fruits and 2 servings of veggies per day. Some days I eat a little less. I can pretty much tell how well I am tolerating them by about mid-day.

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Re: Support and encouragment in abundance! new
      #332688 - 07/17/08 01:34 PM
fancymom

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Thank you so much, Hapamama!! Your awesome!!

Look for me on your Blog - I would LOVE to join in!!

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Re: IBS and white flour products new
      #332694 - 07/17/08 01:52 PM
GaGa

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Since I don't sleep well, I probably know every info-mercial in the world and that's how I discovered Doug's show - it used to come on TV about 3:00 AM once or twice a week, but it's not on here anymore. I did buy his book "The Fungus Factor" and I've been to his website many times. I was told years ago to go on a yeast-free diet due to the CFIDS. And, yes, when I eat that way, I have far fewer symptoms - It's just hard to determine which is IBS and which is candidias/yeast related. And, so limiting. But, I agree with and believe every word he says. I've also tried to go gluten free and was tested for celiac disease, but like others - no celiac, just an intolerance. Gluten free is hard because even oats have gluten in them.

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Re: WOW! For Fancymom.. new
      #332698 - 07/17/08 02:05 PM
sharond

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Hi Again Fancymom...boy are the boards busy today or what!!! Just went out and got some Ezekiel bread. Anyway, if you don't mind I would like to run my situation by you and maybe you can give me some advice (being a nurse, mom and also very kind to read everyone's post asking for your advice). A time back I had sent a post to you, but things have somewhat changed in the last couple of months. All of my issues started out with plain old constipation about three years ago. (Lots happened in between but I will fast forward to the last few months). Went back to GI doc couple of months ago due to having several BM (7) every AM....not constipated, not diahrea (SP?)...I was also waking up sometimes in middle of night and starting in with the BMs. They were just small and loose. Had lots of blood tests and colonoscopy....of course nothing wrong. At this time no cramping just lots of BM. I also have never had a bloating issue. I was (and still am) seeing a pelvic floor specialist due to rectal pain/discomfort I had been having (this has diminished considerably going thru therapy).

Back to the doc.....of course he said more fiber as I suspected and I thought what the heck....I'll get myself up to 60 grams as he suggested. (I had been on the EFI diet for months and just could not get a decent BM). Low and behold...I'm up to between 50-60 grams and I have three very hefty well formed BMs every morning!!!. HOWEVER, most days by around mid morning I start getting abdominal cramping and/or stomach aches which I never experienced before. I also feel some discomfort in my rectum and feel like "If only I could have a BM". But since I had three large ones already, really, how could there be anything in me??? Is this the brain/gut malfunction of IBS or food related??? I do eat oatmeal every morning as I have done for YEARS?? If this is due to the high fiber I feel like I'm in a dilema....I now realize I need the high fiber for a good BM, but what about the cramping??? In bulking up the fiber, I have added a lot of wheat stuff....could it be that???? I eat no dairy and very little sugar, no meat. I do take an excellent multi vitamin and Jarrow Bone-Up which has cal/mag combo. The only thing that I continue against the EFI diet is that I have 1/2 cup of coffee in the AM. Cut this out for a while and didn't make a difference. By the way, I also ordered the Absorb Aid and took a couple of times and didn't make a difference....(I believe they're suppose to work right away)???

Sorry this got to be so long......but I really appreciate your advice...I'm just rather stumped on this abdominal stuff, especially since I'm hopefully past that old constipation issue. With IBS it just seems like it is always something!!!!

Again Fancymom, thanks so much for any insight you might have.

Sharon

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Re: WOW! For Fancymom.. new
      #332711 - 07/17/08 04:14 PM
fancymom

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Oh, Sharon. You poor dear. You have a really hard time with that tempermental little belly of yours!

I remember when you first told me that your Doc wanted you to get your fiber intake up to 50-60gms per day I almost fell out of my chair. I still do a "deer in the headlights" when I read that! That STILL does not sound right to me! What kind of fiber supplements are you taking? You just HAVE to be taking some kind of supplements, right? Not sure how in the world you could get that much fiber from food alone. You would be eating ALL day!
Maybe it's the fiber supplements?? If you are having 7 BMs before lunch, no wonder your belly aches!! Your poor intestines are working soooo hard! After they are finally empty, they are still stimulated with all that fiber, and they have nothing to push against, so they just spasm...empty. Whew!

Are you vegetarian? Just wondering since you said you don't eat meat. Meat would probably slow you down a bit. That MAY help. How much water are you drinking?


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Re: WOW! For Fancymom.. new
      #332716 - 07/17/08 05:46 PM
sharond

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Hi Fancymom,

Believe me I did my research on that much fiber. In many countries it is the norm....for instance in some parts of China the average is 77 grams per day. Even Heather makes the comment about fiber that scientists even recommend up to 60 gms a day. In my research I also found out that in countries where they eat very high fiber people have less intestinal problems than we do. Anyway, when I was at 35-40 grams of fiber is when I was having 7 bm in the am and they were very loose and small...but no cramping. Now at 60 grams I am down to 3 really hefty BM in the AM but start to cramp later. Go figure. I do get most of it from food source...I eat lots of fruit and veggies (steamed). Kashi cereal (8 grams per cup a mix of sF and IF). Ground flax and beans....high fiber bread and tortillas. Anyway, it actually is pretty easy I eat a small amount of high fiber every couple of hours. I drink about 100 oz of water per day. Don't eat meat, but do chicken and fish. I really like having those nice big BM, but would love to get rid of the cramping. Now I'm afradi if I reduce the fiber, I will go back to small, incomplete BM. I'm stumped.

Thanks again Fancymom.
Sharon

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Re: Thanks for the reply new
      #332725 - 07/18/08 04:33 AM
Fen

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Quote:

Actually, the ezekiel bread is gluten free.




Not trying to start a fight here or anything, but ezekiel bread actually does contain gluten because it contains both wheat and barley. These grains contain gluten whether they're sprouted or made into flour.

If you're eating this and it's not bothering you but regular bread made from flour is bothering you, it's entirely possible you have a sensitivity to yeast.

This crap is so hard to figure out, isn't it?!?

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Re: WOW! For Fancymom.. new
      #332728 - 07/18/08 05:53 AM
fancymom

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Ok. Now I'm stumped too. Have you tried a calcium/magnesium supplement? They both have relaxing effects on your intestines. That may help. Sounds like you are eating great! You are a very dedicated woman...good job! I don't know if I could do it.

Anyway, look into the calmag thing. See if that helps. It REALLY helped to calm my tummy down! I take it at night, so while I'm sleeping, my intestines are relaxed and calm for in the AM. It usually helps me have a BM too.

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Re: Thanks for the reply new
      #332729 - 07/18/08 05:57 AM
fancymom

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Aha!! Great point!!

Are you kidding?? No fighting here, girlfriend. I honestly didn't realize that. That is such a great point!! I am so glad you told me. It makes a lot of things make more sense to me now. Yeah...yeast problems...hmmmm.

In that case - I think I may have a candida problem, because sugar bothers me too. Wow. Thanks, Fen!! Your the BOMB!

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Re: WOW! For Fancymom.. new
      #332736 - 07/18/08 07:11 AM
sharond

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Hi Fancymom...

looks like you are an early bird as well...I love early morning before everything is stirring (including my bowels of course...they start stirring aroud 5:00-5:30). Yes, I do take a cal/mag called Jarrow Bone-UP. I'm a research fanatic so after a lot of research, believe that this is one of the best. 6 per day and I break it down by taking 2 three times daily. There's 1000 cal, 500 mag...1000 vit D and a bunch of other stuff. Funny thing....usually no cramping after I lay down and sleep. It is now 9:00AM and gotten all my popping (I hope) out of the way and I have no cramping as I write this. I have no idea what will happen as the day goes on. I think I am going to try a different approach for a while. I'm going to replace the "double fiber whole wheat bread" I have as a mid morning snack and replace with Ezekiel and remove skins from fruits, which I had not done before because I wanted the IF. Maybe those 60 grams I was eating too much IF in order to get these hefty BMs. I guess it's all trial and error. To me it only makes sense that if I'm having good BMs, but am still cramping, it has to be not necesarily a trigger food but somehow my diet is involved here. But, as we all know, IBS makes no sense. As you said in a previous post....one day at a time....and when I have a good day,,,,,boy do I appreciate it. Thanks so much fancymom. I can only imagine how busy you are running a household with husband and children and still taking the time to answer all these posts.

Hope this day is good for you.

Sharon

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