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      #326337 - 03/09/08 12:17 PM
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Re: How to know when you release a egg or not new
      #326339 - 03/09/08 01:25 PM
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I would definately recommend talking to your doctor or gynocologist about this. My best friend has Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome (PCOS) and she does not ovulate on her own. The eggs she does not release basically become absorbed by the ovary and form these little cysts. Her case is so severe that she does not even have periods without taking medication. Women can have PCOS in varying degrees of severity and nearly all can still conceive - with or without treatment. My friend was a worse-case scenario and now has 15-month old twins.

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Re: How to know when you release a egg or not new
      #326346 - 03/09/08 03:50 PM
Angela E.

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I am not sure about why you got the cyst, but I do know that you may not ovulate every month. My OBGYN told me that when I was trying to conceive a few years back. She said it can happen from time to time. However there a problems like Erilyn said that could prevent you from ovulating at all on your own. I would definately give your OB a call. If you haven't been trying for too long they may not do anything yet. GOod luck!

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Re: How to know when you release a egg or not new
      #326373 - 03/10/08 10:53 AM
michele

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Are you checking for signs of ovulation? Using the opk's or checking cervical mucus? Even if these signs are positive, once in a while, an egg will just sort of get stuck in its little sack and not release and cause a small cyst. The cysts from that are usually very small and not real painful. If you are truly having a lot of pain, you need to contact your doc.

Most obgyns make you try for 6 months on your own before they start fertility work-ups, unless you are older than they may start sooner.

Unless you are being monitored, having blood work and ultrasounds, there is no sure fire way you can tell that you actually released an egg despite having a positive opk or good cm.

PCOS can be very serious but if this is the first time you have had a cyst, its unlikely the cause but as I said, if it really hurts, call, don't wait.

I went through the whole fertility thing, everything but IVF and that was due to money and the fact that I could get pregnant, it just took time but my problem was that I could not carry the pregnancy. They now believe I have some clotting problems despite all my clotting tests coming back negative. I am currently being treated for 5 blood clots and at the time the clots were discovered, my clotting factors still showed negative!

If you ever want to ask anything that you feel is too personal here, feel free to email me, its in my profile. I have been there and done that already!

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      #326419 - 03/11/08 08:51 AM
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Re: In a tough spot.. So Confused :( new
      #326422 - 03/11/08 09:42 AM
Mary_V

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If I were you I would try to get in to see a fertility specialiast (reprodcutive endocrinologist). They really know what they're talking about. They can do a vaginal ultrasound to see exactly what's going on. I had to go the fertility Dr. route b/c I knew I wasn't ovulating. And we found out DH has problems too. That's one other thing to do...get DH tested!!!! Half of infertility is caused by the male. And it's no big deal for them to get tested. They just give a sample. But it's good to know up front if there are any real problems. Then you can work around them. Basically I would set up a consult with an RE. The RE can test both you and DH to see if there any true problems. And go from there. It's better than playing the guesing game and getting frustrated. I have tried clomid, IUI, and finally IVF (expecting #1 from IVF next month!!). Feel free to ask any questions.

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Re: In a tough spot.. So Confused :( new
      #326423 - 03/11/08 09:42 AM
Snowy

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Hi Lyndeigh-

I can relate to a lot of what you are going through. I am currently going through infertility treatments b/c my husband & I haven't been able to conceive after trying for more than a year. I do the ovulation tests and take my temperature every day with the basal thermometer and have been for a few months now. Both the tests & temp taking are big helps in knowing when you ovulate which doesn't necessarily happen on day 14 even if your cycle is exactly 28 days. Personally I have been ovulating between day 10 & 11. It's different for everyone.

I understand your side and your husbands. For my hubby it was harder for him to "perform" when I started doing the ov tests and temperature tracking b/c he felt a lot of pressure. I have a feeling that could be the same for your hubby. Now our agreement is that I don't tell him when it is the "day" and he is happy with that. Although the men don't realize it, the whole process is much harder on the women- emotionally & physically. It's your body and every cramp or spot of blood makes you over analyze and it starts to consume your life. For me, my husband is incredibily supportive and wants a baby as much as I do, but he still doesn't understand the longing to be a mother & everything we go through (our bodies as well as emotional). Have you talked to him about the concerns you listed in your post?

The biggest thing I have learned throughout my troubles is that it is an incredibly frustrating & emotional time. Everyone tells you to "relax" and "it will happen when it's meant to" but when you're trying (and not succeeding) that's the last thing you want to hear. Although you have had some health problems, I think it is reassuring that your OB said your reproductive system is healthy. You also have time on your side since you are 23 (I am 31 and infertility runs in my family). Maybe the compromise with you and your husband is to do the temperature tracking so you can learn more about your cycle but not the ovulation tests at this point. Honestly I don't really need to do both because the two have been giving me the same results anyway. But your hubby doesn't need to know that!

Chin up! You have a great support system here at the boards. Mary V helped me a lot a few weeks back. Keep coming to the boards for support. I am happy to answer any questions you have. You can even email me if you want. I'll put my email address in my profile. And most of all, GOOD LUCK!

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Re: In a tough spot.. So Confused :( new
      #326436 - 03/11/08 12:15 PM
michele

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I agree about getting hubby tested, a lot of fertility issues are male related! You can buy ovulation tests strips cheap, check this site out http://www.early-pregnancy-tests.com/. I always had good luck with them but not the temping.

If you have a 28 day cycle, you should start the bd (bed dance) around cd 10-11. The sperm can live for days where the egg is short lived. Better to have the swimmers ready and waiting! A good schedule to try would be CD 10,12,14 and 16 just in case you are a late ovulator!

Be sure you are not using any lubricant. Even stuff like astrogluide that doesn't have spermicide in it can impede the swimmers. The above web site sells a product called pre-seed-it worked well for us. Be sure you are staying laying down for at least 10-15 minutes after. I have a bit of a tilted uterus so doggie style worked best for us when TTC.

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Re: In a tough spot.. So Confused :( new
      #326446 - 03/11/08 02:26 PM
Lisa Marie

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I SO agree with you!!! DH and I are TTC, have been for four months now. I'm so tired of people telling me to "relax!" None of my friends or relatives had trouble conceiving, so they don't understand the frustration. And just like you, I'm not allowed to tell hubby when I'm ovulating, it just puts way to much pressure on him, and then I get stressed. I use OPK's from the website Michele mentioned; I'm still not regular (been off the pill since Aug '07) so it's the only way I know when I'm ovulating. Aside from the mucus a few days before I ovulate, I get a definite cramp when I ovulate. So it's quite obvious to me which side the egg is coming from.

Hang in there; I totally understand what you're going through. If one more of my friends tells me she went off the pill and was pregnant within a month, I think I'll scream. Unless you've spent months and months trying and waiting and watching everyone around you get pregnant, you have no idea how frustrating it can be!

I'm giving it two more months (which will be 6) and then I'm making an appt with a reproductive endocrinologist. I'll be 30 this year, so I don't want to wait any longer!

I'm with ya, hon! Good luck!

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Re: In a tough spot.. So Confused :( new
      #326450 - 03/11/08 03:00 PM
Snowy

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Same with us! We have 3 sets of friends who had a baby before they even made it to their 1-year anniversary. The all conceived on the first or second try! It's so hard because I'm happy for them but in all honesty it also frustrates me. I have 2 baby showers coming up and emotionally I don't know if I can handle it & nobody seems to understand that. We've been trying for so long and I've been through so much already that pregnancy will probably be a walk in the park! I am on Clomid right now and every one of my typical PMS symptoms is elevated by about 200%. I have never felt my boobs hurt like this! I go in for another pelvic exam & blood draw on Thursday so I'm hoping for some good news.

I agree totally- unless you've been through it, you really don't know what it's like. That's why the information & advice on this website has been so great. It's so nice to "talk" to someone who understands! I don't blame you for only giving it 2 more months. I think a lot of doctors tell you to try for a year but that seems like an excessive amount of time to me. When we actually started seeing the specialist we had only been trying for 7 months & I'm so glad we didn't wait. Everything takes so long. I wanted to be done having kids by 35 and I am now 6 months away from my 32nd birthday and I'm not even pregnant.

Good luck to you! Keep us posted on your progress!


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Re: In a tough spot.. So Confused :( new
      #326477 - 03/12/08 04:51 AM
Mary_V

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Good luck with the clomid. I HATED that stuff. It really makes you emotional. I think it's MUCH worse than being pg! Hopefully it does the trick for you!

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Question about clomid new
      #326482 - 03/12/08 06:33 AM
Snowy

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Hi Mary! I was going to ask you if you experienced an increase in your appetite while on clomid? For the past 12 days I've felt like I could eat my arm b/c I am so hungry all the time. The only thing I can associate it with is the clomid.

Sounds like our experiences with it are similar. I have had some pretty big ups & downs emotionally which is not normal at all. I can't imagine what the bigger doses are going to do to me!

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Re: Question about clomid new
      #326490 - 03/12/08 08:26 AM
michele

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I remember being really hungry on clomid and emotional doesn't even begin to describe it, raving bitch is a bit closer to how I actually felt!!! I also did two cycles of femara which is similar to clomid but I didn't respond as well to that so than went on to the gonatropins, which are the injectables.

My girlfriend not only got pregnant and had her baby but she named her daughter Isabel which is what I had named one of my twins and she knew that. Makes it even harder.

I don't know if I will ever feel well enough to even try again. I am trying to come to terms with that but its a pretty hard thing to do. I will be 38 this summer so the alarms on my clock are starting to go off.

Maybe if I ever get well, we will adopt an older child through social services. The cost is very minimal for hard to place kids in the system and I think they consider something like age 6 to be "older."

One thing at a time right now though, I must get healthy again. I need some time to feel well before I take on the welfare of another human life.

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Re: Question about clomid new
      #326496 - 03/12/08 09:36 AM
Snowy

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Thanks Michelle! I googled increased appetite & clomid to be sure I wasn't inventing reasons to eat my pencils! Thank god my husband is so understanding and supportive because I know I haven't been myself the last few weeks. I'm getting tired of saying "the clomid is making me hungry/my boobs hurt/emotional, etc" so I can only imagine he is getting tired of hearing it!

Wow, that's a tough situation with your girlfriend. Did she think she was honoring your lost baby choosing Isabel as the name for hers?

I would be lying if I said that age isn't always in the back of my mind but then I remind myself that women are having healthy, fantastic babies much later in life than ever before. There is hope for you, whether you give birth or adopt. You have been through so much & I hope that you can get healthy and be a mother.

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Re: Question about clomid new
      #326499 - 03/12/08 10:07 AM
Mary_V

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As Michelle said clomid can do crazy things to you. I think I may have eaten less b/c of the GI upset it caused (I was also only a few months into my recovery from surgery for rectal prolapse...that in itself was tough). I do know a lot of women gain weight when taking it, though. I sure was emotional. And that is sooooo not me. I hardly ever cry. And there were times where I would cry for an hour and half straight about hardly anything. So not normal. I can truly say I HATED clomid. I did 3 rounds. I think I was at the highest dose (don't remember...150mg?) by the end. And I still responded very poorly. I THINK I ovulated on the last cycle b/c I did the HCG trigger shot. But my follicle was still quite small. We did IUI with it, but then found out DH has problems...and on we went to IVF. Anyway, it's not a fun drug, but if it works it's worth it. Just remind yourself that this is temporary. You'll get through it. And this is only the first attempt drug. There is a lot of other stuff out there for infertility.

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Re: In a tough spot.. So Confused :( new
      #326530 - 03/13/08 04:56 AM
Lisa Marie

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Ugh! I SO hear you about the baby showers!! I just hate going to them!! I'm sure I'll feel differently when it's MY baby shower, but I don't care. I just went to one last month, and I have another one in just under two months. They are just emotionally draining for me, and I usually try to come up with an excuse to not go. Plus, I'm going home to visit family in May, and I'm sure that will include visiting my YOUNGER cousin who had a baby in December. Not fair!!!

I ovulated for the fourth time last Monday; I plan to do a pg test tomorrow or Saturday. Hopefully I'll have good news

Good luck to you, too!

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Re: good luck lisa marie!!!! nt new
      #326532 - 03/13/08 07:20 AM
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Re: In a tough spot.. So Confused :( new
      #326545 - 03/13/08 02:44 PM
Snowy

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I'm glad to hear that someone else feels the same as me about baby showers. I just thought I was being selfish!

Good luck on the pg test. Let us know the result!

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Thanks guys:) But I'm depressed today... new
      #326567 - 03/14/08 07:56 AM
Lisa Marie

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pg was negative. Go figure. And I got my period today, three days early again, and I woke up with a migraine. I feel like I'm on an emotional rollercoaster. One minute I'm angry, the next minute I'm crying my eyes out. And I'm exhausted. I'm sick of this. It's not fair!! I take better care of my body than ANYONE I know, yet I still get all the health problems. Nothing health-wise has ever gone right for me, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the pregnancy thing isn't working either. I'm just very depressed today, but I knew you guys would understand. Thank you for wishing me luck, though, I do appreciate your support.

Two more cycles; then I'm making an appt with the reproductive endocrinologist. And as for the friend's baby shower in two months, unless things change for me between now and then, I'm making up an excuse to not go. I just can't handle that right now. And I just might hit the next person who tells me to "relax". Hopefully not.

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      #326571 - 03/14/08 09:07 AM
Lyndeigh

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Lisa Marie, I could just cry knowing how much I can relate to you when you said that you take care of your body better than anyone you know and yet you always get these health problems. Im the same way. I eat super healthy, take my vitamins, exercise, reduce stress, everything I possibly imagine to take care of myself, and yet it seems like Im Always sick. My family, on the other hand, stuff their faces with mcdonalds cheeseburgers, never exercise, hardly ever sleep, and fill themselves up with stress, and yet theyre the healthiest people I ever met. It makes me so frustrated, because I feel like I try, try, try and for what? Im bound to get sick anyway. I know how you guys feel about going to the baby showers. I work at a hospital, and whenever a baby is born, they play a lullaby over the intercom. I am happy that a baby is born, but it also just so depressing for me knowing that Im trying, trying, trying and yet cant seem to conceive. My Doctor wants me to wait until Ive tried a year to be put on any fertility meds . Im doing the basal body temp thing, not using any lube and keeping an eye on my cervical mucous. To me, the worst feeling in the world is when my Pd comes. I always feeling like im dissapointing everyone (including myself).

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Re: Thanks guys:) But I'm depressed today... new
      #326573 - 03/14/08 09:43 AM
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I hear ya. I had a mc in nov and everyone I know including my doc is pg... I am trying to get my health under control before i try again... Vitiamins don't agree with me.so I am at a lost me and hubby are fighting your not the only one having a bad day. I wish I could just go eat a large pizza and feel better! sending big hugs your way!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Thanks guys:) But I'm depressed today... new
      #326577 - 03/14/08 10:44 AM
Mary_V

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Just wanted to send big hugs to all you ladies. I know exactly what you're going through. Never feel obligated to participate in something if you're not comfortable. Baby showers are optional!! And feel free to tell people not to give you advice/not to make comments/not to tell you about their pregnancies/etc. The day before my egg retrieval for IVF my brother called to say he and my SIL were expecting...and they didn't even try. I cried my eyes out for an hour. And I told them I didn't want to hear a single detail about their pregnancy until I was ready to handle it. And I stuck to that. I didn't hear a word until I was able to tell them a few months later that I was expecting. Unless you've been through it you just don't understand what emotional and physical stress it is. I've read many places that it is comparable to losing a loved one. And I agree. You almost feel a sense of loss...a feeling of what might not be. Just know you're not alone. There is hope. And there are lots of things that doctors can do for you. Ignore people that tell you to relax (worst advice ever!!!). And just focus on yourself. And continue to write and vent. It's such a big help. Feel free to look at my old posts from my infertility journey for some encouragement. It was a long road, but I made it. And now I'm eagerly anticipating my little miracle in less than 5 weeks. Stay strong. There is hope!

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Re: Thanks guys:) But I'm depressed today... new
      #326578 - 03/14/08 10:46 AM
michele

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So sorry honey. It does suck and its ok to be emotional and upset. After 5 miscarriages and being so sick the last 3 years and now being told I have a chronic, possibly fatal disease at 37 years old, I hear ya.

Vent, cry, yell, get it out. Eat some chocolate and try to do some thing nice for yourself, like a pedicure.

Maybe you are ovulating earlier than you think?

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Re: Thanks guys:) But I'm depressed today... new
      #326595 - 03/14/08 11:49 AM
Angela E.

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Just wanted to jump in here and give my support. I went through some rough times as well before having my children. I have lost 3 babies and it is tough. My dear SIL is dealing with infertility and is now coping with a m/c after doing an embryo adoption. I hurt so much for her. You all have every right to choose what to attend and what not to attend. It is not "bad" of you. I hope you find some peace and sending good baby vibes your way.

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Re: Thanks guys:) But I'm depressed today... new
      #326616 - 03/14/08 07:10 PM
Lisa Marie

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You guys are awesome . You're the only women I know who really understand how I'm feeling. I just can't help but look at all the pregnant women around me and think, statistically, SOMEONE's gotta be infertile, and it's probably us, knowing my luck. NONE of my friends have had trouble conceiving; most of them weren't even trying at the time!! I started feeling a little better around lunch time (Luckily I only had to put in two hours of work today), but then I went to my hair appointment and wouldn't ya know it, one of the stylists there is pregnant and I kept hearing people asking her about it. Ugh!! It's like I can't escape it!!!

I feel guilty for feeling bad, because I know a lot of you out there are going through worse (I often think of you, Michele, even though I don't jump on the boards every day), and Mary, I'm SO happy that things worked out for you! I feel selfish, but I can't help it. Oh, did I mention my older step-sister who already has TWO girls just announced that she's pregnant again?? And my two younger cousins have both had their first babies in the last four months?? I thought we were going to be the first of our friends to have a baby, but instead we're going to be the last.

Okay, enough. Nothing to be done for another two weeks - or whenever my ovaries decide to ovulate again. Could be four weeks. I'm pretty darn positive that I know when I ovulate; between the OPKs, the mucus, and the ovulation cramps, it's pretty obvious. And we're having sex every day for the week leading up to ovulation, and the day of!!! So what's going on???

Have a good weekend ladies. Thank you SO much for understanding

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Re: Thanks guys:) But I'm depressed today... new
      #326625 - 03/15/08 10:49 AM
Snowy

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I'm so sorry your test was negative. My heart sank when I logged on and saw what you had to say. I was hoping that this was going to be the month for both of us! Last night my menstrual symptoms started so even though I'm taking the fertility drugs, I'm sure that my period is going to start in the next 2-6 days. I had so much hope this month.

I skipped the baby shower I was suppose to go to this morning. I had dreams last night that I had gone and everyone was asking me when I was going to have a baby and I ended up yelling out that I was infertile and causing a big scene. After that dream I figured I had better not go and risk making it my reality. Also, emotionally I just don't think I could take it.

I hope you get rid of the migraine and start to feel better. Trust me, I know it is easier said than done.

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      #326626 - 03/15/08 10:58 AM
Snowy

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OMG- I can't imagine working in a hospital & hearing that lullaby every time. It is so bittersweet. Others deserve to have babies too, even the ones who didn't plan it or only tried once. But, we can't help but feel sad, even jealous of them. I know many others have said it, but nobody knows what it is like until they have gone through it. I realized that 1000 times over once my problems began.

I also wanted to tell you that in my experience there are quite a few steps before actually taking infertility drugs. Maybe talk to your doctor about them because months have gone by with all the testing I have had to do before I finally got to start the Clomid this cycle. Maybe she will at least agree to do some of that testing (blood work to test the hormone levels, semen analysis, HSG test, etc) before you actually hit that year mark.

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Re: Thanks guys:) But I'm depressed today... new
      #326655 - 03/15/08 08:04 PM
Lisa Marie

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Oh, Snowy, I'm so sorry.... but I'm glad you decided to not put yourself through the baby shower. I know I couldn't make it through one right now if someone paid me to. My migraine finally went away, although yesterday was an awful, awful day. Today was just as bad: cramps like you wouldn't believe. And two aleve barely touched 'em. They're finally starting to fade now, after taking my second dose.

I'm with ya, Snowy. Nice to know someone else is going through this, too How long have you been on the fertility drugs, what do they do exactly, and how long does it usually take to get pregnant when you're on them? I hope you don't mind my asking, but I know nothing about fertility drugs.

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Re: So glad Im not alone. new
      #326656 - 03/15/08 08:09 PM
Lisa Marie

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Sometimes I wonder why I bother trying to be so healthy, when it doesn't seem to get me anything!!! It's just not fair. And I can't imagine working in a hospital and hearing those lullabyes all the time... I think I'd go crazy! How long have you and DH been TTC?

Thank goodness for you ladies I feel so much more "normal" thanks to you!

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Re: Thanks guys:) But I'm depressed today... new
      #326686 - 03/16/08 04:38 PM
Snowy

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This is my first month on the fertility drugs. I had to take 1- 50 mg pill on days 3-7. You're supposed to ovulate 5-10 days after the first pill. I had to go in on day 21, 22, or 23 of my cycle for a blood draw and a pelvic exam which for me was this past Thursday. The blood draw is to check hormone levels to see if the Clomid is working. If it isn't they'll up my dosage the next month. If it is, I'll continue on 50 mg for at least 3 months in a row. The pelvic exam is to make sure the Clomid isn't causing any cysts. The overall intent of Clomid is to help produce a more viable, healthy egg at ovulation. My doctor thought that I must be taking to the Clomid fairly well given my symptoms (sore breasts, constant hunger, & mood swings) but I'm pretty sure I'm going to get my period again this month. The drugs are suppose to be more effective the more months you are on them but from what I've been told they also don't want you on them for long periods of time. I plan to give the Clomid 3 months on its own. If it doesn't work I'll be ready to move on to IUI.

I'm glad to hear that you're feeling better. Every since I went off the pill I have had some massive cramps myself so I can definitely understand what you're going through. We had an early Easter celebration with my family today and my nephew & niece are just getting over the stomach flu so I'm hoping DH & I don't end up with that. It seems there's always something to worry about!

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Re: Internal ultrasound new
      #326703 - 03/17/08 09:45 AM
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When you went in for your pelvic, did they do an internal ultrasound to check and see if there was an egg or how many eggs? When I was on clomid, they did the estrogen blood draw on the right cd, than they would do an internal ultrasound which would show just how large the egg follicle was and if there was more than one follicle. When the follicle size was right along with the proper estrogen level, than I would give myself a shot of HCG to be sure that the egg was released.

I was seeing a RE so that might be why they did a bit more?

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Re: How to know when you release a egg or not new
      #326717 - 03/17/08 01:49 PM
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Hi, girls:

I'm just getting to this thread today, but I want to send you all some (((hugs))). I hope your journeys to a healthy baby are short ones!

If you're new to charting, I highly recommend Toni Wechsler's Taking Charge of Your Fertility. If there is no medical reason you haven't conceived, it can definitely help you get pregnant faster and understand what your body is doing!

Good luck!

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Re: Internal ultrasound new
      #326749 - 03/18/08 07:25 AM
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My OB did not do an internal ultrasound, just felt around to make sure there were not cysts. I'm not real impressed with my current doctor but have decided to stick with her for at least 1 more cycle of Clomid before moving on. I did get my period last night so another month with no luck.

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Re: Internal ultrasound new
      #326752 - 03/18/08 08:17 AM
michele

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Sorry to hear about Aunt Flo but its going around, I woke up to a surprise this morning, two days early! We are NOT ttc but I used to be so regular I could set my watch by it but my cycles are out of wack now, I hope I am not heading into early menopause, according to my blood work, my hormones are pretty messed up, who knows!!

Without an internal ultrasound, there is no way to know for sure if you are ovulating or not. Even if your estrogen numbers are good, your follicle(s) may not be big enough or may not be releasing. I understand wanting to give your current doc another cycle or two but you might want to start calling around and setting up an appt with a RE as they can take a couple of months to get into, you can always cancel the appt if necessary. Hugs and love

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Re: Internal ultrasound new
      #326760 - 03/18/08 10:05 AM
Snowy

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It's so not fair! Guys really do not know how easy they have it! My cycle hasn't been regular since I went off the pill just over a year ago so I never know when to expect Aunt Flo. And it's definitely not a welcome surprise.

I do worry that my doctor isn't doing everything she could or that I should be seeing an RE. You are the third person who has questioned her Clomid methods. The University of Iowa hospital here has a great infertilty program so I think I'll call them and set-up an appt. Thanks for the advice!

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Re: Internal ultrasound new
      #326761 - 03/18/08 10:12 AM
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I will also chime in with a suggestion to see an RE! I have a friend that did what you're doing...she just saw her regular gyn to start treatments. And it has taken her forever to make any progress. It's like the Dr. was just stringing her along...and didn't do things properly. If you're really serious about ttc you should see a specialist. They know what they are doing. So, I would suggest finding a good RE, get a firm Dx on what's going on (with both you AND your SO), then talk to the RE about the plan of action. If you are sticking with clomid for a few more rounds you have to be monitored with u/s...it's the only way to know what's going on in there. And the u/s will also help the RE know whether or not to keep you on clomid or if you need to move on to the next step. Anyway, don't want to sound preachy. I'm just not a fan of regular docs trying to do stuff they really aren't qualified for...and stringing people along when this process is long enough and tough enough as it is. Go straight to the experts. It will save you time and heartache.

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Re: Internal ultrasound new
      #326763 - 03/18/08 10:20 AM
Angela E.

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Man ladies we all on the same cycle. My aunt flo came yesterday! Must be a connection of some sort! And I def. agree that you should see an RE. Regular docs just aren't experienced enough with handling that sort of thing! Good luck!

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Re: Internal ultrasound new
      #326801 - 03/19/08 07:14 AM
Lisa Marie

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Good luck, Snowy!! Call that RE today. I've got two months to go and then I'm making that call myself.

Funny how we all seem to be having our periods at the same time....!!!

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Re: Internal ultrasound new
      #326830 - 03/19/08 01:20 PM
Snowy

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A co-worker and I were saying the same thing today about having them at the same time. Especially since a male co-worker enlightened us with his take on the female menstrual cycle and how we embellish the symptoms & severity of them yesterday. He's lucky he still has his male anatomy after that!

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Re: Internal ultrasound new
      #326831 - 03/19/08 01:21 PM
Snowy

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It's a good thing we're not all in a room together! Hair might be flying!

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      #326832 - 03/19/08 01:22 PM
Snowy

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You all make great points and have definitely convinced me to call an RE!

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Re: Internal ultrasound new
      #326846 - 03/19/08 03:49 PM
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Quote:

A co-worker and I were saying the same thing today about having them at the same time. Especially since a male co-worker enlightened us with his take on the female menstrual cycle and how we embellish the symptoms & severity of them yesterday. He's lucky he still has his male anatomy after that!






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Re: How to know when you release a egg or not new
      #326858 - 03/19/08 06:19 PM
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I had a cyst rupture on my left side when I was 14. The pain was unbearable, to say the least. 4 hours in the emergency room, and they gave me *one advil,*

{{{hugs}}} and best to you!!! Treat yourself gently for the next couple of days. Dr. Nelly says so!!!!!!!

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