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Back from the nueroloogist
      #299815 - 02/14/07 01:04 PM
michele

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Well, I just got back from the neurologist office and the preliminary report shows peripheral neuropathy. The full report wasn't in yet even though it has been two weeks.

She said the neuropathy is not what is causing the swelling though, so I still don't know why my hands and feet look like the Pillsbury dough boys.

The lycria is helping slightly but its so expansive so she is giving me the generic for neurotin. I will be taking both for a few weeks.

She had me go over to the lab for a blood test to check for the markers in my blood. The phlebotomist was a complete wench. I was super sweet and explained that my veins are shot and that see would need to please use the butterfly needle and showed her which veins still work. She completely ignored me and jabbed the big needle into my main vein and there was an audible POP and blood started squirting all over and it HURT like nothing before. I was so angry. She had to rooter root around for a bit to even get any blood out. I can't even bend my arm now, there is a HUGE knot and its all black and blue!!

So, my afternoon is not going so well. I really wasn't expecting this dx as at my last visit she was pretty sure I didn't have neuropathy but my emg and needle test showed otherwise.

She told me that physical therapy would not help, that it was probably going to be progressive and that they can try to treat the symptoms but it will probably never go away. She said over the years, the pain is probably going to spread from my hands and feet towards my trunk.

She said if my blood shows the particular markers she is looking for, that they can put me on some other type of immune suppressant drug, different than the ones they use for ra. I was too shell shocked to get the details. However, she said if I want to try to get pregnant, do it sooner rather than later because the pain is going to get worse and she wouldn't start these other immune suppressant drugs until after I had a baby.

I have reports to take with me to the rheumy tomorrow morning. I sure hope the rheumy has some better news.

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Oh dear new
      #299820 - 02/14/07 02:07 PM
atomic rose

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I'm not sure I even know what to say that could possibly make you feel better right about now... but I think of you always, even when I don't come out and say so. *huge hugs*, Michele - that plain ol' sucks.

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Re: Back from the nueroloogist new
      #299823 - 02/14/07 02:44 PM
Ulrika

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Oh Michele... I'm so sorry. I hope it won't be as bad as she made it sound. I hope it never gets any worse.

Big hugs for you sweetie,

Ulrika, IBS-D

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Re: Back from the nueroloogist new
      #299841 - 02/14/07 05:03 PM
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Well, that just sucks. I keep you in my prayers and I think about you quite often to wish you well. For what it's worth, I think that you inspire a lot of people to push forward when things are hard.

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Re: Back from the nueroloogist new
      #299846 - 02/14/07 05:20 PM
ChristineM

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Hey, Michele--

Sorry the news wasn't so good. Hopefully the picture changes as she gets more information and/or you enter a remission. You've got to be due for a remission sometime soon!

Keep us posted on how you're doing. (((((Hugs)))))

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Re: Back from the nueroloogist new
      #299854 - 02/14/07 06:45 PM
Toady

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Oh Michele, my heart just sank. I was so hoping for some uplifting news for you. I'm really very sorry. I'm happy you are getting answers, but the neuropathy really sounds terrible.

And the lab tech should be shot!! And forced to go through what you do - maybe she would change her manner!

HUGS!!!!!

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Re: Back from the nueroloogist new
      #299862 - 02/14/07 08:40 PM
lalala

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Oh my goodness! Michele, I'm so sorry you have to deal with this, although it's probably somewhat of a relief to know that you're finally getting some real answers. So right now are your doctors trying to figure out what's causing peripheral neuropathy so they can find the best way to treat it? Do you think it's part of the RA? Sorry to ask so many questions. I'm sure your head's just spinning right now with all this new information.

Big hugs!

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Re: Back from the nueroloogist new
      #299869 - 02/15/07 04:23 AM
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Sorry to hear the bad report, Michele. You are in my prayers. Hopefully when all of the tests are done and all of the reports are in the doctors will have a better understanding of how to treat you. Stay strong.

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Re: Now, back from the rheumys new
      #299880 - 02/15/07 09:23 AM
michele

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I just got back from the rheumys office. I have been having a pretty crappy week and woke up to my uvieitis again so back on the steroid eye drops.

I get to the rheumys office, red eyes, no make-up, hobbling and looking like crap. I had to sit in the waiting rooms uncomfortable chairs with two babies and a very cute toddler. I was trying to hide the fact that I was crying as seeing babies when I am already upset is hard. Get into the room and the nurse is going ON and ON about all the babies in the office today and how hers are all grown and ON and ON about cute babies. She than noticed I was crying and asked what was the matter, I just said I have had 5 miscarriages and now I am sick and miserable! She left the room rather quickly after that.

The rheumy comes in and we get to talking. She told me that she saw my name on the schedule and did a lot of reading on neuropathy, RSD and that sort of thing. She said that I am a mystery to her but that she is testing for everything and really trying to help. She said she has sent me to just about every kind of specialist out there.

She feels that I do have sero negative ra but feels the swelling I have is not consistent with ra. She said she thinks that my joints hurt from the arthritis and because I have neuro issue on top of that, that things just won't settle down, despite the drugs.

I had a complete meltdown and told her that I believed she was doing her best but that I am still in too much pain and just can not take anymore. I was sobbing to her that she has to do something.

She put me on Cymbalta on top of the neuro drugs. She didn't feel that regular physical therapy would be that much of a benefit to be considering I have to pay 20%. She is sending me to a pain specialist who does the spinal blocks but I can't get in until March 22!

She also is re-running all my labs, basically checking for everything known to man. I think all but about 4 boxes are checked on that big lab slip! She was very nice and said she is doing everything she can to help. She said if the pain specialist and neurologist can't get anywhere with me, she would try to get an MRI approved for me. She said an MRI of my hands and feet probably would not show the cause of my pain since it is so generalized but that it would just show the extent of damage and apparently it is hard to get my insurance to approve the mri's.

My crp was up to 1.8, it has been running .2. However, she wasn't overly concerned about it but is retesting it. She was fine with me stopping the mtx as she believes the majority of my pain is not from ra and the humira should stop any progression of bone damage. I am to stay at 5mg of the steroids though.

I am not sure how I feel about my appt today. I do honestly feel she is doing everything she or anyone else can at the moment. I just wish I didn't have to wait so long to see the pain specialist.


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Re: Maria new
      #299882 - 02/15/07 09:26 AM
michele

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People with ai issues are more prone to neuropathies of any sort. I also had the RSD (reflex sympathetic dystrophy) a couple of years ago, which is a rare autonomic neuropathy so that makes me that much more prone to other types of nueorpathy.

Diabetes and thyroid problems are the main reasons for neuropathy and I have neither. Apparently, a lot of the time they never really find the cause, just like ai issues.

See my update back from the rheumys office for more info...

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Re: Thanks Mary! nt new
      #299883 - 02/15/07 09:27 AM
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Re: Thanks Toady new
      #299884 - 02/15/07 09:29 AM
michele

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I agree, the lab tech should be shot. I showed the rheumy today the damage that was done with the blood draw and she was shocked also. Not much can be done now except to ice it but I can't even bend my arm there is such a huge lump and bruise! I thought about reporting her but I just can't deal with the stress of it right this minute.

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Re: Thanks Christine! nt new
      #299885 - 02/15/07 09:29 AM
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Re: hohoyumyum new
      #299886 - 02/15/07 09:31 AM
michele

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"Well, that just sucks" YEP! That sums it up pretty well!!!

I have to admit, I do not feel much like a good role model at the moment. Having a bit of a crisis week.

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Re: Thanks Ulrika new
      #299887 - 02/15/07 09:32 AM
michele

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I guess neuro issues are really tough to deal with. I see a pain specialist the end of next month, hopefully they can help.

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Re: Thanks Casey new
      #299888 - 02/15/07 09:33 AM
michele

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Knowing that people do care does help! Thanks for the hugs, need'em this week!

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Re: Now, back from the rheumys new
      #299890 - 02/15/07 09:38 AM
Ulrika

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Oh Michele. I really wish there was something I could do to help. But the only thing I can do is send you some hugs and pray for you, so I'll do that.

Hugs,

Ulrika, IBS-D

P S I don't know if you would laugh at the same things I do so I can't guarantee you'll find it as hysterical as I did, but just in case I will send a link to a really fun clip to your email.



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Re: Back from the nueroloogist new
      #299892 - 02/15/07 10:35 AM
Angela E.

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I am sorry Michele. I pray for you and hope that you find the continued strength that you have shown throughout this whole ordeal. You are always in my thoughts and you can always call me to vent. I am a good listener. **Hugs**

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OH MY! new
      #299904 - 02/15/07 12:47 PM
khyricat

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well at least you have a parital diagnosis but *HUG* oh my what a diagnosis to be given!

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Re: Now, back from the rheumys new
      #299910 - 02/15/07 02:02 PM
Flipada

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So sorry. I don't know what else to say. Big hugs comin' at cha.

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You're entitled to a crisis new
      #299926 - 02/15/07 04:36 PM
hohoyumyum

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No one can maintain all the time. If you need a week to wig out, take it. Heck, I wig out pretty regularly. Once a month or so. I know it's just hormones for me, but I've told my husband that if he blames it on that time of the month, I'll promptly punch him in the face. Not that I want to hit him, it's just when the hormones are flying, sometimes I think I do.

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Re: You're entitled to a crisis new
      #299940 - 02/15/07 06:41 PM
ChristineM

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I think hohoyumyum's response is perfect here. Vent away, woman! You deserve that!

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Re: You're entitled to a crisis new
      #299974 - 02/16/07 08:31 AM
michele

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Your funny hohoyumyum!! But I totally understand, when Will tried to blame things on hormones, I want to hit him as well!

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Re: Fridays update new
      #299975 - 02/16/07 08:37 AM
michele

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Can I just say DUUURRRRR drool. I feel like a space cadet! I took my cymbalta last night but I am just weaning down on my zoloft so kind of double medicated there.

I am also adding in the new nerve drug, gabpentin, while I am still taking the lycria. I am to add the new one slowly and decrease the other one. So, again, a bit over medicated on that side as well.

I had a good crying day yesterday and slept well. I needed that. I don't really have any feelings today other than stupid idiot feelings! The pain isn't gone but my mind is! And, I haven't even taken a pain pill yet but will have to before long!

I drove to work on autopilot and its a good thing I have been at my job for a long time and can basically do it in my sleep because I am brain dead today! Hopefully, I won't mess up too much! Driving home should be interesting.

Thanks for every ones support through all the continued medical drama. I feel we are on the right track now, just wish I didn't have to wait until the end of March for the pain specialist. TGIF!

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Re: Fridays update new
      #299976 - 02/16/07 08:46 AM
Ulrika

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Hi there...

Just thought I'd check up on you to see how you're doing.

By the way, I tried the clip again just now and it worked. My fiancé said yesterday that he thought it was a server problem at the providers of the clip, like maybe a server overload or something. So if it doesn't work, chances are it will work if you try another time. Like I said before, maybe not a clip for work, but you can always try it at home I guess. You really want sound for this one too...


Hugs,

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Re: You're entitled to a crisis new
      #299999 - 02/16/07 03:43 PM
hohoyumyum

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Quote:

when Will tried to blame things on hormones, I want to hit him as well





I think this is probably a pretty common sentiment. LOL.

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Sorry to be a stranger.... new
      #300001 - 02/16/07 03:52 PM
Natalie1985

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Hey michelle...feels like sooooooo long since I last posted to you. Am so sad to see you're still suffering so much....I really do wish I could wave a magic wand. You'd be one of the first people on my list! I've been lurking for a while, but with so much on at uni and at work I just don't have the time to be able to keep up with everyone. I promise to poke my head in more often....could't help but want to send you a million and one hugs as always....and to let you know am thinking of you.
Glad everyone on here is still being such a good support network to you......you're all too fabulous!

(((((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))))))))

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Re: Thanks Natalie new
      #300153 - 02/19/07 08:56 AM
michele

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I understand about being busy but try not to be such a stranger, we miss you!!! I hope things are gong ok in your life!!

Thanks for the hugs and let me know when you get that magic wand working!!!

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