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OOOHHH!!!! Another addition to my Jerry Springer life
      #268937 - 06/12/06 02:16 PM
_Willow

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Happy 29th birthday ex husband. I could KILL him.

We had a nice long fight today about everything. he's taking HER white water rafting IN BANFF for her 18th birthday. he's been interested in her for 6 months. He has had sex with her, starting this week. he left me because I gained weight and supposedly made excuses rather than trying to lose weight. And also, he left me because I was crappy in bed because I had no self esteem about this body.

And he's pretty proud of himself because the girl's "hot" so he says and she has a great body.

What a shallow jerk, he just sealed the deal.

I DO NOT WANT HIM BACK.


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Re: OOOHHH!!!! Another addition to my Jerry Springer life new
      #268939 - 06/12/06 02:26 PM
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Maybe you'll be lucky and they'll fall out of the raft.
At least you know for sure now what a jerk he has become. You are so pretty and so nice that all I can say is that it is his loss.

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Re: OOOHHH!!!! Another addition to my Jerry Springer life new
      #268940 - 06/12/06 02:28 PM
michele

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OMG WHAT AN ASS!!!!!!!

First off, you do realize you are not fat and he is full of crap! Change the lock on the door, toss his crap out in the yard and see if the laywer can get you in any sooner! Ok, I need to calm down before I type anymore.....WHAT A JERK!!!!!!!!!!

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Im having to control myself here... new
      #268945 - 06/12/06 02:42 PM
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before I swear my bleeping head off....shannon Im so sorry...I REALLY REALLY have no idea what to say apart from the fact that you are a beautiful person...DO NOT listen to A WORD he says....and he is an absolute ******* bleep******* bleep******** bleep******

Id burn his clothes after that...I think you are coping like a saint....my aunty had a similar situation to yours once and she cut up all his clothes, threw him out and changed the distinguishing marks section in his passport to read 'has no d***'....all I can say is that his head is obviously in his at the moment and he'll soon get his come uppance.

Sending lots of hugs....STAY STRONG!

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Re: OOOHHH!!!! Another addition to my Jerry Springer life new
      #268951 - 06/12/06 02:57 PM
Snorkie

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What a BLEEPING, BLEEEEP, BLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPING jerk.
OMG, Shannon. I'm sorry. Toss his shallow self out with the trash. I hope he gets absolutely nothing in the divorce, because that's exactly what he deserves. *HUGS*

May their whitewater raft overturneth.

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      #268963 - 06/12/06 03:27 PM
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What an f****r! I can't believe he told you all that crap. You are beautiful and kind and smart and a good mother and he can take everything he said and shove it right up his A**. Is there anything we can do for you?

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Re: OOOHHH!!!! Another addition to my Jerry Springer life new
      #268965 - 06/12/06 03:37 PM
cailin

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Shannon

Again I am lost for words.
T is obviously an absolute @ss who has no idea what he had. How DARE he blame you for this? how DARE he!!!!

Leave him off with Lolita, you and Kayleigh are so much better off without him!!

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Re: OOOHHH!!!! Another addition to my Jerry Springer life new
      #268969 - 06/12/06 03:45 PM
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It's verrrrry hard to be calm at a time like this. It's hard to think straight but that's exactly what you have to do. He'll have his butt in a sling for admitting outright that he's sleeping with this girl who is under 18, AND while you're still legally married. While you may say now (and even believe) that you want nothing from him, you will need money (child support/alimony) for you and your daughter to survive.

I mentioned before that you need to write everything down. Every time he brings her around, every time he brings her around your daughter, every time he makes a comment about how hot she is in front of you, every time he talks/giggles to her on the phone in your presence.

Shannon, in an essence, he's purposely torturing you. He knows exactly what he's doing. He knows he's hurting you and he continues. He's getting a little more ballsy now in confiding what's really going on because he's pretty comfortable with the fact that he thinks he knows you well enough that you're not going to do anything about it. He's pretty sure you won't stoop to his level to hurt him back.

You said you've secured a lawyer and have an appt. set up. Make sure you write this stuff down before you go. Don't wait....do it while these things are clear in your head.

You do NOT need to let him come back and stay in your house after he's done his week or whatever at his mom's. When he goes, change the locks and tell him he can make an appt. with you to get his stuff (as long as you have someone else there with you). Don't tell him ahead of time that you're changing the locks. If he calls the police, all you have to do is tell them the situation and what he's been doing. I don't think you'll find any difficulties in getting them on your side.

Shannon, I really feel for you. I was so naive when I went through my divorce. He was being cruel and as angry and as hurt as I was, I still didn't want to hurt him and I wanted nothing from him. Bad move.

I'm here. I've been "hovering". Stay strong.
BIG hugs.
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Re: OOOHHH!!!! Another addition to my Jerry Springer life new
      #268970 - 06/12/06 03:45 PM
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What an FU**ER!! Shannon... I'm SO glad that you found all of this out NOW rather then later (you MIGHT have been nice about things).... there is no turning back now... you let him have his skinny little 17/18 year old.... because she will dump him shortly after...she is messed up herself...... so he will soon be without both of you... and I will LAUGH MY ASS off the day you post that his sorry OLD (compared to her) ass gets dumped!!

Tell him the reason he thought you were not good in bed was because you could not get into it because he is so freaken small!!

I agree.... CHANGE THE LOCKS... don't let money be a reason to be nice....pack up his crap put it outside....

Call the lawyer....

You and your daughter DON'T DESERVE OR NEED this crap in your lives.

Man... how I would love to use my kickboxing skills right between his legs right now!!

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be careful about engaging in "self help" new
      #268976 - 06/12/06 04:04 PM
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Shan,

As I said in my post to your other thread, I know next to nothing about Canadian divorce law. However, I advise you to specifically check with a lawyer before doing anything like throwing his stuff out or changing the locks. Most laws do not support methods of "self help" like that -- you might end up screwing yourself over and actually owing him half the rent for excluding him from the building. If a lawyer gives you the go-ahead, though, then throw his stuff right out the window. Aim for a steaming pile of dog crap -- oh wait, that would be your ex himself ...

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Re: be careful about engaging in "self help" new
      #268978 - 06/12/06 04:06 PM
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GREAT POST Amanda!!!

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Re: OOOHHH!!!! Another addition to my Jerry Springer life new
      #268983 - 06/12/06 04:36 PM
JLL24

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Hi Shannon,

I couldn't believe it when I read your post! How low can he possibly go!?!

How did things go with the lawyer?

Sending you lots of positive thoughts. His comments are cruel and you should not pay any attention to them.

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Re: Loser! new
      #268985 - 06/12/06 04:59 PM
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OMG what a jerk! Wait till that 18 year old drops him like a hot potatoe! She'll realize she should be with someone her own age sooner or later. What the heck does he have to offer her????? My God did she just graduate? I suppose now she isn't going to college? What a waste! She'll realize it dont' worry! Doesn't matter though cause I certainly don't blame you for not wanting him back. You are right, this is the topper! He is so shallow for telling you that you were to heavy and not good in bed. Tell him try to have a kid and lose the weight. What a jerk! I'm so ticked at him and I don't even know him!

Take deep breath's honey and don't let him get to you. You are a beautiful person thin or heavy. Doesn't matter. Some man will come around and love you for who you are I promise!!!! Hang in there!!!

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Re: OOOHHH!!!! Another addition to my Jerry Springer life new
      #268991 - 06/12/06 05:18 PM
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Oh my God. I can't believe he actually said those things to you. So now he's trying to act like it's YOUR fault instead of his??? Talk to your lawyer immediately and ask what exactly you can do to your cheating weasely husband without legal repercussions. Like maybe his clothes accidentally end up on the lawn. On fire. It's a shame that none of us live close to you, I bet a lot of us would be happy to provide you with an alibi if you did kill him.

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Re: OOOHHH!!!! Another addition to my Jerry Springer life new
      #268992 - 06/12/06 05:18 PM
Gracie

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What a total @sshole! Eventually he'll get what's coming to him.


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Re: OOOHHH!!!! Another addition to my Jerry Springer life new
      #268993 - 06/12/06 05:19 PM
Angela E.

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First of all what a total jerkoff! Any man that truly cares about you would never leave because of weight! And I am sorry you are way too beautiful of a person inside and outside to tolerate that kind of crap! I agree with Lisa wait until that little 18 year old tells him he is too old for her. It will happen and then you can turn around and slam the door in his face IF he dares to come running back. I am so sorry you are dealing with this and I pray you have continued strength to get you through this. Love and hugs!!

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Re: OOOHHH!!!! Another addition to my Jerry Springer life new
      #268995 - 06/12/06 05:23 PM
Gracie

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I just remembered something else. Yesterday you said you two weren't legally separated yet. Well if you're not, then you can put infidelity on your reasons for divorce and getting child support and alimony.


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EXACTLY... new
      #269006 - 06/12/06 06:20 PM
Dr. Spice Yamin

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She may be legal or whatever.. but infidelity is not. So you win your case either way.. judges will be on your side. weight gain is no excuse for cheating!

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Re: So correct me if I'm wrong..... new
      #269009 - 06/12/06 06:27 PM
LittleLisa

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but in Pennsylvania, 17 is considered statutory rape? Do they have that law in Canada? Forgive me if you've already went over this in another post. I haven't read all of them!

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I agree 1000000% with filpada new
      #269010 - 06/12/06 06:29 PM
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What he's doing is torturing you!! Quite frankly.. you've been handling this so well (probably too well) which has allowed him to think he can be mister balls to the wall with you and keep hurting you more and more. You know he's getting satisfaction out of this, in a sick twisted way. He's a sick twisted man, and only that sort would find joy in causing you pain.

I know you may not be able to legally burn his crap on fire, but you need to do something and take a stand. Lock him out of the house, and keep him away. Otherwise he's gonna view you as weak and think he can keep walking all over you. He confuses you taking this well, as being a pushover (i'm not saying that you are.. but its fueling his fire). You need to give him a reaction that you aren't gonna take his crap, because in his mind.. you're taking it and taking it and taking it and he's enjoying every darn minute of it.

Also.. why are you doing his laundry? Don't do anything for him EVER again.. all he's done for you is damage you, belittle you, and may have psychologically harmed your daughter who now has to grow up without a father.. or with a father that belittled her mother, and left her for a 17 yr old. Screw him. he doesn't deserve your pity, your chores, or your time.

Sorry.. can you tell i'm P.O.ed.. he's a major jerk, and doens't deserve someone like you.. and I can tell you with 100% certainty that he'll keep on hurting you until you make it stop and give him a reason not to. Kick him where it hurts before he kicks you! (figuratively.. not literally).

Also.. in regards to the you are bad in bed comment.. I agree with Shell.. tell him "if you had a bigger you know what and actually KNEW how to use it maybe I'd actually enjoy sleeping with you. Too bad for it was really me that was suffering all these years from a man with NO SKILLS aka YOU. Its hard not to just lay there when you didn't know how to use it."

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Re: So correct me if I'm wrong..... new
      #269012 - 06/12/06 06:32 PM
Dr. Spice Yamin

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apparently.. that age of consent is 14 in Canada.. which is absolutely ridiculous!

Here in the states its 17. Regardless.. its infidelity and you can take his sorry a$$ for everything he's worth. Yeah alimony and child support. Shannon you'll be fine without him and dont' feel bad for even ONE second that he'll be living in a cardboard box until he finds a better paying job. He did this to himself.

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Re: So correct me if I'm wrong..... new
      #269013 - 06/12/06 06:34 PM
AmandaPanda, J.D.

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Not sure the law in PA but 17 sounds a little old (from a legal standpoint, not a moral one!) In most states it's 16, unless there is a huge age diff (like if she's 16 and he's 40 it's not okay). Each state sets its own laws though.

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Re: 14 wholly crap! new
      #269023 - 06/12/06 07:10 PM
LittleLisa

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That is WAYYYYYYYY young! What a ridiculous law!!! To think my son is only 3 years away from that! Scary!!! VERY Scary

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Sorry ... new
      #269034 - 06/12/06 08:02 PM
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sorry that you get treated this way. Time to get rid of him, and move on with your life. He does not deserve any more effort from you ... except through your attorney.

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Re: I agree 1000000% with filpada new
      #269041 - 06/12/06 08:33 PM
Gracie

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I totally agree.


Shannon - you can also add verbal and mental abuse to that list along with the infidelity I mentioned in an above post.


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Re: OOOHHH!!!! Another addition to my Jerry Springer life new
      #269042 - 06/12/06 08:42 PM
Lyndsey

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thats so wrong, and horrible for him to say about you. of course a just turned 18 year old girl has a tighter body than a mommy body....geeze...that's so stupid, we give our bodies up for our babies...so screw him if he says you don't have a tight body...we change after babies are born...maybe you were not "exciting in bed'' becuase he made you bored...and didn't make anything spicy like...if you get no stimulation, and he does the same thing every time....how is there excitement in that?

just turned 18? poor girl what has she gotten into? she's young and doen'st know...he should know better.

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LOL that was awesome. I am being very careful law wise!! new
      #269043 - 06/12/06 08:54 PM
_Willow

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i'm not throwing him out because until the papers are signed i need him to be amicably supporting us till I get full time teaching work.

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Aww, you sweetie... new
      #269044 - 06/12/06 08:55 PM
_Willow

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he's such a loser.

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I can count how many times I new
      #269045 - 06/12/06 08:57 PM
_Willow

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had a you know what in the last five years from him!!! So yes, it was him and me to blame for that. and if he's not interested then how do I get excited about it? He always had his porno.

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that's about it, J.... new
      #269046 - 06/12/06 08:57 PM
_Willow

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that's about all he'll get.

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Thanks Angela. He said the excuses were worse than the weight new
      #269047 - 06/12/06 08:59 PM
_Willow

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but for me the lack of support was far worse than the diets and exercise. he always told me I'd never make it anyhow.

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LOL already done/ new
      #269048 - 06/12/06 09:01 PM
_Willow

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And if he wants me to believe he hasn't had sex with her to this point you've GOT to be kidding me. yes, he hadn't had sex with her 2 weeks ago when we'd been broken up for 1 1/2 weeks but it was definitely "serious" enough to book a trip to banff? I keep telling him "I'm not STUPID!!" I see, hear and whatever things!!

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here in Canada legal age is 14. new
      #269049 - 06/12/06 09:02 PM
_Willow

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Sick, yes, and our PM is working to get it changed to 18. It's a nationwide thing.

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P.S. I HATE to bring this up new
      #269050 - 06/12/06 09:02 PM
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P.S. Something I was thinking about.....I HATE to bring this up....but PLEASE Shannon, make yourself an appointment to be tested for STD's...ask for an HIV test too. I know he said he did not sleep with her until this week...but I would not trust a word that came out of his mouth. Again, hate to say this.... if he is doing it now...who knows if she is the first You need to watch out for #1 & #2 and that is you and your daughter.

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Criminal, eh? new
      #269051 - 06/12/06 09:04 PM
_Willow

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It's really uncool.

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lol yah, no kidding. new
      #269052 - 06/12/06 09:05 PM
_Willow

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What a loser. he's like "yeah, I'm trailer trash. I always told you I was, and that I was shallow. You never listened."

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she just had her aftergrad. In fact new
      #269053 - 06/12/06 09:08 PM
_Willow

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she's out with him tonight and he'll drive her to school in the morning. He can drive his girlfriend Kayli and his daughter kayleigh to school tomorrow. Aww, how cute.

I do feel sad that shes throwing her future away for this. What an idiot.

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The lawyer was nice...justa c onsultation new
      #269055 - 06/12/06 09:12 PM
_Willow

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as I so can't afford a $2000 down, and $200 an hour situation. Good lord.

She said we don't ahve that much to muddle through, and suggested some free ways to get legal advice, so that's a good thing. I'm feeling much more like the problem really is HIM and not me~ and that the weight and the sex is an excuse for him to not have to face his problems. He's running from one to an even bigger one but that's not my concern anymore.

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lol you rock! Can you tell him personally?? new
      #269056 - 06/12/06 09:14 PM
_Willow

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We're not that far away!!

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Yes, you're right, don't feel bad. I will new
      #269057 - 06/12/06 09:15 PM
_Willow

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book a test in the next week or so.

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Actually....:) new
      #269058 - 06/12/06 09:25 PM
_Willow

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I've been documenting everything and have brought it to the lawyer. I have also got it in my head that I want what's fair, and he will ahve to deal with that. I hope I never said I don't want anything from him, because I do, as I need it to survive. So, everything has been documented and is saved in paper and on a disc. So I'm with you there.

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LOL new
      #269061 - 06/12/06 09:35 PM
_Willow

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Well, I am not locking him out because then he'll have that against me in court. no way wil I give him that. Two more weeks and he'll avoid me for them. I stop doing ANYTHING for him right now. The thing is in the meantime, till Sept and till our papers are signed, he HAS to provide rent, groceries and utilities or I will be evicted. See, if I ahve one more cheque bounce on rent, I'm out. The reason they bounced? He wouldn't get a chequebook, so the rent comes out of My account, and he gives me cash, and he's been a little late a time or two. It's impossible to find a place here and he could screw me in one short step.


And PS- unfortunately he was pretty BIG but surely did not know how to use it. Truth is, we admit it was like work.

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I guess I can now.... new
      #269062 - 06/12/06 09:37 PM
_Willow

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he never said anything negative about me other than the "you'll never lose weight, you'll just give up" stuff when we were together...but now, whoa is it ugly. mind you he could say the same to me. I've verbally abused his g/f three ways from Sunday, and his childish stupid infatuation.

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Yah, you can do something... new
      #269063 - 06/12/06 09:43 PM
_Willow

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pin him down so i can shove it you know where.

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Well, they say, don't get mad... new
      #269064 - 06/12/06 09:46 PM
_Willow

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get EVEN. And you know what? Now I might just join a gym, for me, get happy and confident, for me, and have a successful happy life without him, FOR ME!! I gave ME to him, everything about me. now I'll take it back.

I want to do those things but that's not the girl I am. the woman I am.

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I am fat though..... new
      #269065 - 06/12/06 09:48 PM
_Willow

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not to have a pity party but I am fat and I do hate it and I have done everything I could to change that. But when you are broke, you have a chidl with you ALL the time, you don't have the support to diet properly(I begged him to rid the house of junk food and he wouldn't...) then it's nearly impossible. our food will be so healthy once he's gone.

Two more weeks, and I will be home free.I feellike time can't GO fast enough.

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Well said... new
      #269082 - 06/13/06 03:02 AM
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you hold your head up high sweetie....dont stoop to his level...and one day...even if its s while off...he'll realise when you're happy confident and looking more fabulous than ever...that he made the BIGGEST mistake of his life!

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Can't you leave... new
      #269094 - 06/13/06 06:05 AM
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Isn't there somewhere you could go with your daughter? Family, friends, a safe house for women? Doesn't Cananda have a any program to help you in this situation? Do your local area friends know of your problems? Your church? Maybe it's time to enlist the aid of friends or family...

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Re: OOOHHH!!!! Another addition to my Jerry Springer life new
      #269097 - 06/13/06 06:39 AM
countrygirl

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Real Love is unconditional. A REAL man would love his wife regardless of weight,size or shape.It's an excuse for his own behavior, if he throws it all on your shoulders(like the weight comments) then it looks more like your fault.Know what i mean? He's fishing for excuses for his own wrong behavoir.
I'm sure 'Little Miss Thang' will tire of him soon.Then he's left with nothing and will realize that his little "fling" cost him so much more than he ever expected and who will be left alone and lonely then?!!! What comes around, goes around, life will bite him in the @$$ sooner or later.

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Re: OH NO YOU ARE NOT!!!! new
      #269100 - 06/13/06 06:51 AM
Yoda (formerly Hans)

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And DO NOT talk like that. Shan - from your pics, I think you are absolutely beautiful. You do not look in any way "fat." I don't have a perfect body at all - so I understand the way you feel but him telling you that is just bullsh!t. There is more to beauty than outside 18 year old appearances.
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
You stand proud girl. You are beautiful, intelligent (genious level IQ yes?), funny and a wonderful person. Don't forget that.
And what is he?
I'll not say my opinion here. You put your own in.
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Re: OH NO YOU ARE NOT!!!! new
      #269102 - 06/13/06 07:27 AM
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I agree, you are not fat at all!!!! Do not believe that for one minute!! We do not all need to be a size 6 to be beautiful!!! Have you not looked at your signature picture? You are very beautiful and anyone who even hints that you are not is shallow, not to mention blind! He is manipulating you again-he is trying to put all the blame on you-do not fall into his mind traps!

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well... new
      #269104 - 06/13/06 07:42 AM
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are you completely sold on staying where you live? I mean the area and everything?

It sounds like its too hard to find daycare there, a full time teaching job, AND housing. However, others have mentioned places in canda where teaching jobs are abundant- and I'm sure there are places where daycare and cheap housing can be found. Its abundant in the states, and I'd assume its available in most areas in Canda. Maybe you need to considering moving to make your life easier.

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Re: OH NO YOU ARE NOT!!!! new
      #269112 - 06/13/06 08:06 AM
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thats it girl stand tall, proud and make him realise what he is missing, but do not let than @ss back into your life. You are doing so, so well girl. keep smiling and stay strong xx

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Re: OH NO YOU ARE NOT!!!! new
      #269115 - 06/13/06 08:34 AM
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Please don't let that jerk make you think it is your fault. You are not fat !!! You are beautiful, inside AND out.
When his mother finds out all the things going on, I doubt she will be pleased. Think of the crap he will get from her. Blood is thicker than water, but remember ... Kaleigh is her blood too, and I doubt she will want her with his playmate.
I agree with the advice you are getting. You can search the internet for the laws in your area and at least have an idea what you can do legally. Make sure everything you do is on the up and up. Don't give him a third leg to stand on. Do you have a tape recorder? It wouldn't hurt for some of his crap to be recorded. At least your lawyer will hear how cruel he is.
Keep doing his laundry. Just add something he is allergic to in the underwear. Is it poison ivy season yet?

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Re: OH NO YOU ARE NOT!!!! new
      #269121 - 06/13/06 09:22 AM
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i agree, i don't think your fat either, i've been jealous, becuase you have boobs!! lol....the only reason i have boobs right now is because i'm breastfeeding...otherwise i'm an a cup....so i've been jealous of them from your pics!! we all feel fat, or ugly once in a while, especially if you are compairing yourself to that young girl...but we are women, we are strong, but you are beautiful and not fat!! don't sh!t on yourself, because your idiot ex has been. if he looks only for your faults, etc..then he can go suck it...becuase you are obviously a wonderful woman...like i said f#ck em...REALLY! but not really..he sucks!!

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Your picture?? new
      #269130 - 06/13/06 09:51 AM
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Shannon, did you delete your picture? Why? You & Kayleigh are so beautiful together. Brenda said how pretty you both are. And it was your other picture, with that cute smile that I first saw when I found this site that kept me coming back to the boards and finding the help the I needed. If some man can't see how very pretty and special you are ... well just, just ... (I can't say it, or write it) ... but the heck with him if he can't see past himself. He must have jello for brains! That's it ... he must be "JELLO BRAINS".



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Re: OOOHHH!!!! He Is SO WRONG!!!!! new
      #269135 - 06/13/06 10:22 AM
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A Guy about thirty with a girl about nine-teen That is so wrong I'm glad you're not with him Cookie HE probebly was just using you now he wants to use the teen I mean hello a 10 YEAR Difference thats alot. Anna Nichole Smilth Just wanted to marry the old guy for his money. Who knows why he married you but hang in there You deserve to keep your Daughter!

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Re: she just had her aftergrad. In fact new
      #269137 - 06/13/06 10:32 AM
Honey mix

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I agree She must be on something or blind to be doing this I mean an after grad dosen't that mean like you failed most of High School? If so She is Really Dumb.

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maybe could be construed as surrendering the home new
      #269149 - 06/13/06 11:58 AM
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Shan, check with your lawyer but I'd say don't move out until you know for sure that it won't be used against you either as a reason for him to get the house or as a cause of action for divorce (ie, you abandoned him).

Safehouses aren't likely to take you in unless you're being abused / your safety is an issue. Plus probably not a great place to stay. I'd stick to your guns, stay there. Let him TRY to get you out!

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no, here that means you just finished high school. It's the prom. new
      #269154 - 06/13/06 12:08 PM
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Sorry, we Canadians ahve a pretty blunt term for it!:)

cute to see a 12 year old agreeing with me., You can stay chickadee!

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Yes, I ahve thought of that, believe ME! new
      #269156 - 06/13/06 12:11 PM
_Willow

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But my family and friends are here, and I'd have a hell of a fight on my hands if I moved. He'd charge me with kidnapping or something. He's not being logical about things, but he will fight to the death to stay near his little girl, even if I ahve to fall for it.

I do love my town. I wish HE would move!LOL!

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((((((((((((((thanks Alicia))))))))))))))) new
      #269158 - 06/13/06 12:15 PM
_Willow

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but I was a size 5 when i was 18, and I'm a size 18 now, so I'm bordering obese. I ahve a sick sick view of myself, as jabba the Hutt. And I want to get back but I feel I don't ahve the tools or the strength.

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I'll put it back up when new
      #269160 - 06/13/06 12:20 PM
_Willow

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I stop slandering the man. I don't want to be legally attacked for what I've said here, or identified in the community.

Plus it makes me just embarrassed to think anyone might actually know me who is on his side.

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Look, it's two more weeks..and then he's 3 doors down new
      #269163 - 06/13/06 12:24 PM
_Willow

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and the place is mine. i don't want to kick him out-he can use that in court. I don't want to abandon-he could use that in court. I will not give him that satisfaction.

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She's 17, he's 29 new
      #269165 - 06/13/06 12:26 PM
_Willow

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That is like you dating a baby, literally.

So it's gross. Or, oh, me dating my much younger brother.

She's an idiot. And so is he.

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Good .... - nt - new
      #269166 - 06/13/06 12:31 PM
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Re: She's 17, he's 29 new
      #269171 - 06/13/06 12:41 PM
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i know when i was 17 i dated a 21 year old, and ithought i was so cool, she probalby just thinks it's cool to have an older boyfriend...you said they work together, and he works at a resteraunt?? is she a hostess then? i know here you have to be 18 to be a server...thats just wrong...looking at the hostesses at my work..and a 29 year old to date..thats WAY WRONG!

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That's what is really good about this board ... new
      #269172 - 06/13/06 12:47 PM
Double J

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There are some really good thinkers here, and we all care about you Shannon. AmandaPanda has some sound advice here ... I guess that when my ex and I parted 25 years ago it was just easier for me to leave the house for her. Listen to cooler heads.

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legal eagle popping up again here ... new
      #269192 - 06/13/06 02:25 PM
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First of all, truth is an absolute defense to defamation (ie, if what you are saying is true, he can't punish you for it). Second of all, at least under American law (and we have most of these in common with Canada), the subject of the defamation either has to be a public persona or someone who has thrust themselves into the public. Talking badly about a private person is only actionable if you have damaged their reputation in their community. We don't know your last name or T's, and we are not his community.

badmouth away! (but keep your last name private and only speak the truth).


My little disclaimer -- I'm not your lawyer, I'm not admitted to the Bar anywhere (yet). I'm just telling you what I learned in law school. Talk to your actual lawyer about this.

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Regal Beagle, thank you! And a pop quiz to all.... new
      #269210 - 06/13/06 03:57 PM
_Willow

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Anyone remember where the regal Beagle is? 10 points!


I'm only spreading the truth ma'am. and it' s sooooo unlikely that anyone on here knows him it's OBSCENE.

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Re: Regal Beagle, thank you! And a pop quiz to all.... new
      #269227 - 06/13/06 05:22 PM
Portageegal

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wan't that the hang out on Three's Company?

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YOU WIN!!! new
      #269234 - 06/13/06 06:24 PM
_Willow

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Nice job. Three's company was my favorite show as a kid. That and the show Webster, that apparently nobody on Earth who's my age remembers. LOL.

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I'm way late on this, but... new
      #269269 - 06/13/06 08:35 PM
ChristineM

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WHAT AN A$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree with what everyone else has said. He is making excuses for his own bad behavior and is saying mean things out of his own anger, shame, or whatever.

Hang tough!

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Picture ... new
      #269273 - 06/13/06 08:45 PM
Double J

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I like the smile and the new cookie.

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Hey you sneaky fox! new
      #269281 - 06/13/06 09:20 PM
_Willow

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You can't fool me Double J!!

You decided to do a makeover too, lol!

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Oh, this is the best board ever. honestly. new
      #269282 - 06/13/06 09:22 PM
_Willow

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And everyone here has been soooo good to me. You should see some of the teachers on my teacher board and how totally cruel they've been about the whole thing. One told me I needed to stop whining and see a shrink. Ugh! I'm going through a divorce, not an insanity plea!

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Just like my sister!! - nt - new
      #269290 - 06/13/06 10:51 PM
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Re: ((((((((((((((thanks Alicia))))))))))))))) new
      #269310 - 06/14/06 05:39 AM
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Sweetie, I was a size 5 too when in high school. Guess what? does NOT determine how beautiful you are. Besides, sizing has changed since then. Now tailors to skinny minny teeny boppers - which we are NOT. So don't feel bad. You're beautiful just the way you are.
XOXOXO
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Thank you Alicia- smart you are, young Jedi. new
      #269380 - 06/14/06 11:05 AM
_Willow

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Adn you are right, but I guess I ahve to love me for me and I don't know where to begin with that.

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Re: Not young really, but thanks for the wise part... new
      #269430 - 06/14/06 01:52 PM
Yoda (formerly Hans)

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Start at flylady.net - tons of wonderful advice. FLY is to FInally Love Yourself.
Beauty does not come from a dress size. I have several very large women in my family I consider to be very beautiful. Besides, you don't look large at all to me.
Keep that head held high, cookie. Use the force. And your lightsaber if necessary (LOL!).
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Yep new
      #269435 - 06/14/06 02:03 PM
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she's a hostess. He's the GM. I was a server for many years and dated a guy-well, "dated a guy" for 2 years and it was SOOOO ugly. Actually, I got into this thing with "DH" because I wanted out of the thing with the jerky guy. Now that was treating me crappy but I knew it.


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