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REALLY STUPID QUESTION..........computer related
      #266581 - 05/31/06 06:14 AM
nomorepooch

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I have a laptop that I will be using this summer when I travel (When one works for a small company...the office goes on vacation with you!). I may be going to Japan as my father is ill and though it isn't life threatening, may need to go out there.

I have wireless capability so I know that should I be in a location that has wireless access, all I have to do is fire up my internet explorer and it will come on. I just bought a blue cord (it will be delivered by office depot today) that looks like an oversized phone cord for when I don't have wireless. Now...my question is, where do I plug in the side that doesn't go into the computer? I take it here in my house that I can plug it into my line that has the DSL in it and go.

If I am at a hotel or car repair place or Starbucks...am I correct in assuming that they are paying for access and it is there for me to use?

I feel like a total moron as I am much brighter than this post makes me look but since I never needed my other laptop for the internet, I am totally clueless.

Major thunderstorm coming through...gotta turn the computer off!

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Re: REALLY STUPID QUESTION..........computer related new
      #266586 - 05/31/06 06:22 AM
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If the hotel has internet access but not wireless there should be somewhere you can plug it in like a telephone line slot....I think - is that even what you meant, am I even answering the question right ???? ...I am not an expert but I bet Caroline (Blondie) will know. If not I will ask my boyfriends brother...he is a techno guy.

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Re: REALLY STUPID QUESTION..........computer related new
      #266591 - 05/31/06 06:38 AM
Blondie13

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The blue cable you've ordered - does it have one small plug(to go into your laptop ) at one end and a larger plug at the other end? Or does it have 2 small ones?

(Bear in mind this answer comes from a Brit who travelled to the US a lot with work, not from an American) If the other end is a smaller plug it can plug into either network jacks (like you'd have in your office) or, I think, an American phone line. Whereas in the UK (and probably much of the world, though I haven't been to Japan) you can only plug the smaller plug into a network jack or DSL/broadband jack. Our normal phone line jacks take bigger plugs - they look like the smaller ones, but wider, and the little bit you have to press to plug it in is on one of the short sides not the long side. Pic just below:

Larger plug - a phone line plug in UK (and other places)

The smaller version, what you use for DSL/broadband connections, and also normal American phone lines I think looks like this;

Pic of a smaller plug (called RJ11)

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Both of your answers make sense... new
      #266606 - 05/31/06 07:53 AM
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My cord will be delivered today so I will know what size the plugs are...I figured that would be the case. If I plug in here at the house I can go to my DSL line and such. I just wasn't sure.

Japan is pretty techno savvy so I am sure they have wireless there.

We will see...thanks!

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The hotel... new
      #266610 - 05/31/06 08:05 AM
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will usually have some kind of box near the desk/office area of your room that is set up for internet, if they don't have wireless. MOST places have wireless these days, but not all.

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Re: The hotel... new
      #266611 - 05/31/06 08:14 AM
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Soooo....once I "plug in" and fire up internet explorer will I automatically go to my own isp or theirs and then type into earthlink which is my isp ? Boy...I feel so silly.

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Hope this one makes some sense too... new
      #266616 - 05/31/06 08:51 AM
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Places like Starbucks and airports etc usually have free wireless. Hotels usually charge and most need you to plug in to their network, hence the need for the cable. Some hotels do have wireless but sometimes you need a password to pick it up and they charge you.

Is your laptop network compatible? I think you need this for wireless access in public areas but someone else might be able to confirm this?



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Re: The hotel... new
      #266618 - 05/31/06 08:57 AM
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I don't know all the lingo, but from watching my husband, you'll go through something the hotel has first. Hopefully it will be free for you and you won't have to pay (some hotels still charge). Most of the time there will be some instructions on how to do it, so don't worry, you'll figure it out!

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Re: Hope this one makes some sense too... new
      #266619 - 05/31/06 08:58 AM
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It is network compatible from what I understand.

This is all starting to make sense...I know that places like Starbucks do the free wireless thing as a customer draw.

Once I actually travel and figure it all out, I am going to feel silly at how simple it is.

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I've an idea! new
      #266623 - 05/31/06 09:13 AM
cailin

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Why not bring the laptop to a local Starbucks or library to practice before you go, so that you will be used to it and will be confident that it will work?

NO COFFEE THOUGH !!!

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Re: In more detail than my earlier post..,.. new
      #266624 - 05/31/06 09:13 AM
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Don't worry - whether it's wired or wireless there will be instructions.

If the hotel uses wired: you will have a card in your room telling you how much it costs - most cost something, and can either be a one off charge to activate the line to your room, or a connection fee every time you connect, or sometimes it's charged by the minute.

You'll plug your laptop into the wall using the cable, and if your laptop is network enabled (99% are) you will be instantly online. You'll then open up Internet Explorer, which will go straight to your home page, and you'll surf as normal. Sometimes your homepage might be re-directed to the hotel page, but very rarely with wired access.

If the hotel uses wireless (or a cafe etc): sometimes they have it in the rooms, sometimes it's only available in cafe's and reception areas, and the bedrooms just use wired.

There will be an instruction card, and usually you will need to do a search for wireless connections (if you let me know what operating system you use, e.g. Windows XP Home, I can give you clear, precise instructions on how to do this). You will then see a list of available networks - if you do this in a hotel or Starbucks or McDonalds there will usually only be one in the list, and will be sometime like "Starbucks wireless hotsport". You then just click the connect button, open Internet Explorer and start surfing!

**** (If you're somewhere that charges, maybe your hotel room, normally you can pay via credit card when you try to connect - if you do this be VERY careful, a lot of internet fraud happens this way. Check with reception what the name of the hotel network will be when you do your wireless search - and I mean exactly. Lots of people just sit around in hotels, send out their own wireless network, give it a name similar to the hotel's one - you see it, connect and give your credit card details, and voila, someone has all your credit card details and can go crazy with it! )*****

Sometimes you might pay in advance at reception and be given a password (more places are starting to do this to improve security for their guests) which you'll need to input when you hit connect. Either way, again you just open up Internet Explorer and start surfing.

Note - you will not be using your normal ISP, whatever it is, you will connect via the one the place where you are uses. Your normal homepage will appear when you open Internet Explorer in 99 times out of 100 - it is rarely overridden.


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Re: PS new
      #266628 - 05/31/06 09:25 AM
Blondie13

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I did some digging, and a Japanese phone plug is different to those in the US. This pic shows a converter which converts a Japanese phone plug to an American RJ11 plug (the small one I showed you in my first post):

Japanese phone plug to U.S. RJ11 transformer


Most Japanese hotels though will expect American and British visitors, and so should offer the RJ11 type (small plug, the one you're used to) alongside the Japanese one in hotel rooms. HOWEVER - it'd be a really good idea to either call or email the hotel in advance and ask what kind of socket they will have in your room, and if they have wireless - that way if you need one of the adaptors you can get it before you go.

Jammy thing, it's one place I've never been Japan. Would love to go! My pop was there for 4 weeks with work and loved it!

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Definitely... new
      #266629 - 05/31/06 09:25 AM
nomorepooch

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I actually wanted to do that yesterday but hubby needed me to come home. Thankfully I can handle the occasional cup of coffee!

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Great information....thank you!~nt~ new
      #266631 - 05/31/06 09:34 AM
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Thank you!~nt~ new
      #266632 - 05/31/06 09:35 AM
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Re: No prob! :) Just thought - are you aware your cellphone... new
      #266638 - 05/31/06 09:44 AM
Blondie13

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...probably won't work over there? Very, very few American or British cellphones work in Japan - they use comletely different networks and technologies. A colleague told me all about this last year. He rented one from a stand at the airport for the duration of the visit - good idea.

He also told me about a great site to find out about going to Japan (because at one point I was supposed to be making a trip), it covers just about EVERYTHING - the power adaptors you'll need to take, essentials to take, transport over there, the airport, etc etc. Link below.

Japan Travel Guide website (scroll down the page that opens for full contents)



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Thankfully.... new
      #266640 - 05/31/06 09:51 AM
nomorepooch

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My dad lives there and he can get me one there...I am hoping that I don't have to go there but need to be prepared nonetheless.

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Re: Where in Japan? new
      #266725 - 05/31/06 02:04 PM
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If you go, where will you be going? I went to Japan when I was 16, for 3 weeks and absolutely looooved it!

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Re: Blondie....computer queen new
      #266728 - 05/31/06 02:07 PM
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Blondie,
I guess I have the same question. I'm going to Spain this summer with my laptop. I know that when I went to Spain the last time I had to get a converter for my elec appliances (curling iron, hairdryer)but I'm unsure of what I need...or rather where to get it. I have a DELL laptop...maybe I should call DELL?? I'm wondering if they have computer stuff at travel shops.

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Re: Blondie....computer queen new
      #266758 - 05/31/06 03:34 PM
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You mean what you need to use your laptop in Spain? (Sorry I've had a long night - long story - and being a blonde dumbass...)

Right, well, power-wise yes you'll need a US-Europe power converter, the same as you needed for your curlers etc (tip from a seasoned traveller with many appliances - take at least 3, so you don't have to keep swapping them round, and buy them at home first, they cost a fortune in airports).

Connectivity-wise: your hotel might have wireless, and if so same thing applies as I posted for Japan.

If it just has wired access, in either your room or communal areas, you just need your normal network connecter - an RJ11 to RJ11 cable, as Europe uses the same phone points as you guys (pic below again). You can just buy a standard RJ11 cable from any computer shop before you go, or from the airport (where it'll be more expensive). You could even take the one with you that you use in your house if you wanted!

Any more questions give me a shout- I love travelling and can't at the moment (no money as can't work), so I get to live out my travelling urges through everyone who asks me questions!!
Pic of an RJ11 plug - you need a cable with one of these on each end

All the stuff I answered in response to Nomorepooch's question about connecting to networks, etc, stands for you too; just even easier with them having the same phone sockets as you guys (we also have them here in the UK, but only for broadband or networks - normal telephone lines use a different plug, just to make things difficult... )

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Re: Blondie....computer queen new
      #266802 - 05/31/06 05:41 PM
Flipada

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Thanks.
I'm really looking forward to my trip. I'll be heading your way as well to visit my friend in London for a weekend. I haven't seen her in 15 years. I've never been to England so that'll be an adventure. AND, I'm going to try to cross the border there at least for a day to get to France. I teach French as well as Spanish but have never been to France. I've gotta get there!!

Thanks again for your help!!!

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Re: Blondie....computer queen new
      #266808 - 05/31/06 06:07 PM
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No problem, happy to help! Hope you have a great time - when are you leaving? It'll be so great to see your friend after so long!!

I'm not a MASSIVE London fan myself, though I've been probably about 20 times. I love certain parts of it and hate the rest!! My favourite city to go out in in the UK is Manchester I think, tho it's been that long since I've had a night out on the tiles I can barely remember...

Ooh, how are you planning to get over to France? Personally I like to fly, but second choice would be a ferry because the idea of the Channel Tunnel freaks me out for some reason!!

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Re: Blondie....computer queen new
      #266812 - 05/31/06 06:17 PM
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I'm flying out of here on July 1. I won't be coming home till the 23rd or 24th...I forgot. I'm going to fly from Spain to England. As far as France, I don't know yet. I'll be in Bilbao (in the Basque region) so being in the NE side of Spain, I'll be so close it'll be hard not to go.

England is probably like many large cities...there's some really neat things to see and then there's the typical big city life which isn't always all that great. I'm not a big city gal myself. I looove New York but I don't think I could live there full time. It's nice to visit. I wish I had more time in England but I'll be busy studying in Spain. Gonna be staying in the dorms. I'll feel like a kid again!

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Kobe/Osaka area....awesome place!~nt~ new
      #266825 - 05/31/06 08:12 PM
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Re: Kobe/Osaka area....awesome place! new
      #266867 - 06/01/06 03:13 AM
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I was there too! I stayed in Kobe. I also got to Nara and Hiroshima which was awesome.

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Re: Blondie....computer queen new
      #266870 - 06/01/06 03:22 AM
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MANCHESTERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!! Sorry Blondie I couldn`t resist. I`m manchester born and proud...what a looser we should so meet up sometime...once you have had more hypnosis and are even better xx

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Did you get to Kyoto? new
      #266881 - 06/01/06 05:44 AM
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Kyoto is my favorite!

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Soo...it doesn't take much to get me all excited new
      #266882 - 06/01/06 05:58 AM
nomorepooch

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I got my blue cord and it plugs into the router on my computer and up came the internet and my Outlook was even configured properly (ha ha...I did it myself!).

When I was in Corporate America I had an IT department...Lord how I miss those people!

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Re: Blondie....computer queen new
      #266995 - 06/01/06 12:54 PM
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Definitely - maybe after like my 3rd or 4th session we could meet up after the session? Hitting the Trafford Centre sounds good to me! Tho since you work there maybe that wouldn't excite you so much...

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Re: Did you get to Kyoto? new
      #266996 - 06/01/06 01:06 PM
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Yes, I loved Kyoto as well. So much to see there.

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Re: Blondie....manchester new
      #267179 - 06/02/06 09:42 AM
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yeah but there is never a thing as too much of a good shop...the t.center is all under one roof, about ten mins away from me AND...the biggest plus...there are so many toilets and I know the quickest route to all of them! LOL maybe when you are down this way for one of your sessions we could meet up as it isn`t that far.

P.S Had three intervies but all low pay, got one tomorrow as a permanant promotional girl in an Asda Living store !?!? its really good pay and NOT in the trafford center (might be a prob with loos...i always make a pit stop before I start work!) also vodafone and carphone wearhouse have rung me and said they want to make interviews with me soon! Can`t be bad hey! I`m just buzzing because this time last year even the thought of an interview would make me have diareoh and now I have done 3...touch wood for tomo!!!!!

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