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Re: What does she do while on the gentle leader? new
      #256088 - 04/04/06 01:11 AM
CathUK

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Don't yank the gentle leader!!!

Can you try the treat option instead. Walk along with treats in your hand nearest her and let her have one when she walks to heel.

Another trick is to stop and ignore her or walk backwards when she pulls. She'ss soon learn that this leads to a very boring walk.

How much exercise does she have - it may be that she is just too full off beans and needs a good off lead run. Don't expect too much on the way out, but try to get her to walk properly on the way home.

Getting her to listen to you by making her sit at curbs etc (then treating) could also help.

Best of luck!

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Amount of exercise new
      #256089 - 04/04/06 01:15 AM
CathUK

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For a lab GSDX I would give around 1 - 2 hours of exercise a day including lots of off-lead running and games with toys.

If she is only getting 20mins on lead she is bound to pull - she is just over energised and over excited.

Also, what food do you give her? Some foods with additives and colourings can make dogs more hyper.

Good luck - do you have any pic, she sounds beautiful!

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OH well maybe that was bad advice but it sure worked new
      #256104 - 04/04/06 05:50 AM
ecmmbm

Reged: 02/23/03
Posts: 1622
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...as did sticking the poop under his nose when he did his business in the house, then swatting him on the tip of his nose and shoving him out the door with it (wasn't supposed to do that either but it sure worked!) And he loves me just as much as ever!



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Do they breed for this type of dog? new
      #256115 - 04/04/06 06:59 AM
Augie

Reged: 10/27/04
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Or did she just "come out" this way? She's adorable!

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Re: How do you get your dog to walk on a leash? new
      #256117 - 04/04/06 07:02 AM
Janey

Reged: 10/25/03
Posts: 1716
Loc: Maryland

This is a tough one. You do have to be in control. I have had dogs in the past that would grab the leash or pull. I always kept the leash short and spoke in a firm voice until they calmed down. She will get it eventually, labs and shepards are smart dogs. I have heard from dog trainers that you have to speak in a calm firm voice but not sound frantic. If you sound frantic then the dog senses that and won't listen. It is also a good idea to have her stop and sit at corners and wait for you to go. This gets her used to you being in charge.

I am lucky now that my dog,a yellow lab, will walk without a leash and stay right by me. We got her when she was 8 months old and already leash trained but them we trained her to walk with us without a leash. I don't do this if we are in an area with traffic. Only on quiet streets but in Spain we could walk her just about anywhere without a leash.

Good Luck!

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Re: How do you get your dog to walk on a leash? new
      #256168 - 04/04/06 10:16 AM
michele

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Loc: southeastern michigan

Having just finished doggie class, I can help! First of all, I agree, she needs to be on a harness more than just a collar! Start by putting her leash on INSIDE the house and let her drag it around. Then, work on having her come when called with the leash on. Then, work on picking the leash up and walking her around the house. If she pulls, just stop. If you continue to put pressure on the leash, she will fight it. If she is being a stinker and not listening, stop, grab her harness close by her body while standing next to her and make her sit. Rub her ears or wherever if you have to to try and calm her down. Keep the leash short and remember not to keep tension on it, it'll only make her fight you more.

I had a hard time at first with Harley. I would put the leash on him and he would make like a carpet! Flat on the floor on his belly and wouldn't budge! I started making him wear the collar around the house and office and just let him drag it and slowly worked at it and I don't have any problems now!

The instructors suggested a low, loud growl sound. Imagine a cross between clearing your throat and growling. Apparently when they are puppies and they misbehave, this is how there mom's get there attention and correct them! It does work if you can get the sound right. Harley will get really excited sometimes and likes to nip at my nose and if I make this sound, he will stop in his tracks!

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Re: How do you get your dog to walk on a leash? new
      #256177 - 04/04/06 10:38 AM
Sara-Sage

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I've had dogs all my life while growing up. My parent's dog is a black lab mix is soooo strong. I find that the only way she listened to me was to show her who is boss! Once I did that, she repected me and was way better when I took her for walks.

I used to walk the yellow lab that we had at work (it was a seeing eye dog in-training). He was the most hyper dog ever and like my parent's dog, I had to keep him on a VERY short leash and keep working at it. Within only 2-3 walks, he listned perfectly to me. I think it's because I told him who was boss. Oh how I miss him....

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Some ideas for you new
      #256195 - 04/04/06 11:44 AM
Stephie

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Posts: 2696
Loc: Vancouver, Canada

Hi Sarala,

I agree with what lots of other people have said, but thought I would just add a couple of things because Adrian is trying to get our dog Ranger to be the perfect walker, so has tried all kinds of tricks that seem to be working pretty well.
I also agree that most stuff probably won't work all that well if she is only getting a little bit of exercise each day. A lab/shepherd cross is a pretty big girl and she probably needs loads of exercise.

Here are a few ideas, though..
1) While you are walking, and the dog starts to pull just slow down and if she keeps pulling ahead stop completely. Pat your side and call her back and make her sit down or just stand beside (ideally just slightly behind) you. Start using the word "heel" too so when she is where you want her (standing still), you can say, "Good heel". When you start walking again, do the same thing until she starts to get that you won't go anywhere unless she is beside you. It does make walks take A LONG TIME. You have to be really patient. Sometimes when we are out together and Adrian is doing that, I am like, "C'mon, let's just walk!" but it is working so now I keep quiet.

2) Similar to the last one, when our first dog was trained (at a women's prison, hee hee), they would walk forward and if the dog would pull, you turn around and walk the other direction.. you keep them on quite a short lease so they are made to turn around too. I think it is basically the same principle as the other one.
3) Pat your side or something that also tells her to heel, and do that consistently so she knows. Our dog now, for example, will be trotting around in the bushes and Adrian says, "Ranger" and pats his thigh and he comes and heels right beside him and walks along like that off-leash! It's pretty cool.
Apparently, these work well as "positive reinforcement" because it is rewarding the dog with the forward motion when he/she is doing it correctly.

I would try these things and use the halties or gentle leaders (I have never tried them, but so many people swear by them) at first so it is easier on you. I also reward with little treats, or letting him off leash to chase the ball or whatever.
It will also be easier on you if there is a place you can take her where she can have a good run and tire herself out a little bit.

Good luck!

Steph

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Re: We already have a harness! LOL so if you have more ideas... new
      #256332 - 04/04/06 05:58 PM
Sailing Away

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Not a problem. In talking with my fiance he said that Chloe pulled also but that was why we kept her on such a short leash next to us that she couldn't pull to much.

How about a treat hanging in front...kind of like in the old cartoons? Course that really might really get the tugging going.

-Michelle

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She was an accident but... new
      #256334 - 04/04/06 06:10 PM
Sailing Away

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there are quite a few breeders who now have the bichon/yorkie mix. The bichon is mixed in so people with allergies can have a dog since the bichon has hypoallergenic fur.

Her mom was a bichon who fell in love with a little yorkie who was determined to be with her. Some how he managed to sneak out of his kennel across the room and get to her. So much for pure breed champion mom with now a undesirable litter. We got her for about $50.

Now they are designer dogs that people are going after because you get the best out of both breeds. Plus they have great little personalities, even when she acts like a diva...course she probably learned that from me. I am including the link for one of the local breeders. About midway down the page under the Gallery of Puppies Sold there is two photos of a little golden blonde side-by-side. That is what Chloe has always looked like. She's a bit longer right now. I will definitely post before and after shots from her day at the salon.

-Michelle

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