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Children's books and authors........
      #238719 - 01/15/06 04:27 PM
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If we've done this before...that's ok we have loads of new folks now ! ! !

I'm reading like there's no tomorrow and I plan to make my way to the library this week to get...children's books! A bunch of you recommended that I read to take my mind off my impending surgery and it is WORKING/HELPING! It tkaes me out of my life/self and into another world and I am loving it! I hadn't been reading of late...and I found like my long lost friend has returned!

Why children's books you ask? They are just SUPER comforting...and I need comfort right now...

PLEASE feel free to mention any book you think I might like children's or otherwise. Also if you please, write me a few lines about the book/why you think I might like it!

I will try to let you know which books I decided to get and how I like them over the next few weeks!

I'm REALLY excited about this...thanks to all who participate! I know we have some avid reader here...and I am looking forward to seeing what you come up with for me!

Hurray for reading!

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Some of the best books ARE children's books! new
      #238725 - 01/15/06 04:57 PM
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I love this topic!

Betty MacDonald - the Mrs. Piggle Wiggle books! Parents call Mrs. Piggle Wiggle whenever their children pick up bad habits. Coolness factor: Mrs. Piggle Wiggle lives in an upside-down house!!!

Eleanor Estes - Ginger Pye Newbery Medal Winner about the "smartest dog in the town of Cranbury" and Jerry and Rachel Pye, brother and sister. Pinky Pye - the Pye children's father is an ornithologist (bird researcher) and the family is sent to an island so he can do research. There they adopt a stray kitten, Pinky, who can use a typewriter! (Not really, but it's a cute story about the father and kitten.)

Madeleine L'Engle - A Wrinkle in Time for the same reasons Jaime gave.

Lois Lowry - Anastasia Krupnik (and the rest of the Anastasia books), The One Hundredth Thing About Caroline - these are more lighthearted than some of her other books about tween girls, the changes they're going through, and their families.

Beverly Cleary - Ramona the Pest, Henry Huggins, etc. I like spunky children who challenge adult conventions - these books are full of them!

Edward Eager - Half Magic - Four siblings, raised by their widowed mother, find a magical coin that only grants them half of their wish. Great storytelling voice, humorous.

Margery Sharp - The Rescuers, Miss Bianca, The Turret - Disney animated The Rescuers and the books are much more fun. Talking animals! Adventure!

C.S. Lewis - The Chronicles of Narnia

Roald Dahl - (author of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory) Matilda - A sweet girl with self-centered, abusive parents and a mean school principal uses her intelligence to get them back.

Carolyn Mackler - YA author - The Earth, My Butt, and Other Big Round Things (Teen's Top 10 (Awards)) - Fifteen-year-old Viriginia Shreves is the blond, round, average daughter in a family of dark-haired, thin superstars. Her best friend has moved away, and she's on the fringes at her private Manhattan school. She wants a boyfriend, but she settles for Froggy Welsh, who comes over on Mondays to grope her. The story follows Virginia as she tries to lose weight, struggles with her "imperfections," and deals with the knowledge that her idealized older brother has committed date rape. There's a lot going on here, and some important elements, such as Virginia's flirtation with self-mutilation, are passed over too quickly. But Mackler writes with such insight and humor (sometimes using strong language to make her point) that many readers will immediately identify with Virginia's longings as well as her fear and loathing. Her gradually evolving ability to stand up to her family is hard won and not always believable, but it provides a hopeful ending for those trying stand on their own two feet. Ilene Cooper
Copyright © American Library Association.

Meredith Ann Pierce - The Dark Angel Trilogy -another YA book; romance fantasy, strong female lead character.

Other favorites -
Pippi Longstocking
The Secret Garden
Anne of Green Gables
Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm


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Re: Children's books and authors........ new
      #238726 - 01/15/06 04:57 PM
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In the Month of Kislev: A Story for Hanukkah (Hardcover)
by Nina Jaffe, Louise August (Illustrator)

Card catalog description:
A rich, arrogant merchant takes the family of a poor peddler to court and learns a lesson about the meaning of Hanukkah.



Believe it or not, we studied this book in my Law and Literature class last semester. The wise Rabbi in the town comes up with a creative way to resolve a dispute. I know you'll really like it -- also deals with being satisfied even when you are lacking in material things.

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Little Britches by Ralph Moody new
      #238729 - 01/15/06 05:19 PM
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I looooooved this and the Laura Ingalls books when I was younger. "Where the Red Fern Grows", "Old Yeller" are timeless classics as well.

Ask your librarian for a list of "Newberry Award Winners"...the Newberry award is for extraordinary childrens books. I have yet to be disappointed.

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I was a series kid... new
      #238732 - 01/15/06 05:25 PM
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Chronicles of Narnia - fun fantasy series
The American Girl books - historical fiction, short and cute, my grandmother would give me a new one each holiday
Laura Ingalls Wilder books - historical fiction as well, enjoyed reading about the frontier
Anne of Green Gables books - loved the character of Anne in the series!
Madeleine L'Engle books (A Wrinkle in Time, A Swiftly Tilting Planet, etc) - science fiction-ish, and appealed to my love of science
Harry Potter series - fantasy! fun characters and plotlines, and I identify with Hermione!

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      #238738 - 01/15/06 06:10 PM
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Charlotte's Web- E.B. White

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I agree with some of the others! new
      #238739 - 01/15/06 06:28 PM
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What the other's have recommended that are MUST reads:
-Laura Ingalls (Little house)
-Emily of New Moon
-Harry Potter -JK Rowling
-American girl series is GREAT
-MRS PIGGLE WIGGLE I LOVE THAT BOOK!
-Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm is great as well
-Charlotte's Web is a great classic!

My recs.:
-The Blue Sword -Robin McKinley
-The Hero and the Crown -Robin McKinley
-Heidi -Johanna Spyri

Now there is an entire series of books, all of them starting with "The Adventures of..." By Thornton W. Burgess. Some of the titles are:

The Adventures of: Buster Bear, Chatterer the Red Squirrel, Danny Meadow Mouse, Grandfather Frog, Jerry Muskrat, Johnny Chuck, Mr. Mocker, Old Man Coyote, Old Man Toad, Paddy the Beaver, Peter Cottontail, Poor Mrs. Quack, Prickly Porky, Reddy Fox, Sammy, Jay, Unc' Billy Possum, Bobby Coon, Jimmy Skunk, Bob White, Ol' Mistah Buzzard, etc...

These are all cute, wonderfull stories about animals, and I truely love them!

Good luck!

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      #238744 - 01/15/06 07:21 PM
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already mentioned some of these before, but...

a wrinkle in time - madeline l'engle (there are three other books in the series, all great)
danny, champion of the world - roald dahl (my personal favorite of his books. i also love the bfg.)
julie of the wolves
the pistacho prescription - more along the lines of judy bloom.

i'll let you know if i come up with more.

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      #238748 - 01/15/06 07:47 PM
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Stargirl.. I can't remember who's the author, but its a really famous book for children around 4-7th grade. If I remember correctly it takes place in AZ, and its about a girl who never seemed to fit in. Its a great lesson learning book.

Also, The little Prince! Always a crowd pleaser and such a sweet little story!

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I love these books! new
      #238760 - 01/15/06 09:02 PM
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I especially love YA fiction. Here are some of my faves:

Gary Paulsen (Hatchet, Brian's Winter, and Brian's Return)--survival books about a boy who finds himself alone in the wilderness

Judy Blume-- loved her when I was growing up

Lois Lowry--The Giver is great!

Things Not Seen--don't remember the author, but a kid wakes up and he's invisible

Those are the ones off the top of my head

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IS YA Fiction a title or an author?? n-t new
      #238762 - 01/15/06 09:06 PM
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"Young Adult" fiction--like for teens. Sorry! -nt- new
      #238764 - 01/15/06 09:07 PM
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      #238765 - 01/15/06 09:09 PM
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Isn't Little Prince super!! I love it too! I read it for the 1st time in college. I went on a date with this guy and we didn't work out...but he gave me a copy of the book anyway....super guy!!! VERY very deep book for sure!

Will see if I can find Stargirl...thanks for the idea

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      #238766 - 01/15/06 09:11 PM
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I get it!! Those were examples of YA fiction...thanks for the clarification...and for getting back to me so fast *hugs*

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      #238768 - 01/15/06 09:25 PM
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Hey Jaime!

Thanks for the ideas *hugs*

I'm going to have a LONG wonderful list when I go to the library! Too bad you have a cap on how many books you can check out!! Time to get hubby to sign up so we can both check books out for me...I mean for us (I wouldn't actually do that...I'm too honest...but the thought HAS crossed my mind! LOL)

Thanks again....I'll keep ya posted (I plan to go tom!! *squeals*)

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      #238770 - 01/15/06 09:30 PM
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Thanks Isabel!

There are quite a few on this list I've never heard of! How exciting!! I filed like I am being spoiled rotten just having this list to take with me to the library! Like a door has just been opened that reads:

"Ruchie...welcome home"

I am SOOOO excited for my "field trip" to home of the books


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      #238771 - 01/15/06 09:33 PM
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Charlotte's Webb....this was one of my absolute favorites as a kid! One of the books that go me hooked on reading! (Didn't like Stuart Little quite as much for some reason?)

I remember it was 3rd grade when we read it. I think I hid under the blanket with my flashlight like you read about it in books like the Neverending Story only it was me in real life LOL to finish Charlotte's Webb! Thanks for the reminder of some GOOD childhood memories *hugs*

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      #238772 - 01/15/06 09:37 PM
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Narnia and Anne of Green Gables were super! So was Harry Potter (only read the 1st one...and didn't finish it actually! Saw the movie before finishing the last chapter in the book.....something I don't believe I had ever done!! What was I thinking? Off to the 2nd though now... I identify with Hermoine in the do-the-right-thing bit but NOT in the smarts department...how do you feel you identify with her?)

Thanks for the mentionables...I'll be taking a list with me tom.! I'm SO psyched! It should be a terrific tripped....filled with anticipation that I'm quite certain will NOT be a dissapointment!



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      #238773 - 01/15/06 09:40 PM
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I liked Old Yeller very much...but it made me SOOO TEARY EYED! I didn't have the guts to read Where the Red Fern Grows...I heard it was sad. Too sad...

Little Birches by Ralph Moody...consider it on my list for my trip! I feel like I have such an extensive list I won't be needing that Newburry Award List (at least not in the near future) cause everyone here has been so wonderfully helpful! Can you believe all the authors/titles I got here Rache? I have the best friends a gal could want!!! Thanks for being one of my friends *hugs*

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      #238774 - 01/15/06 09:43 PM
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WOW! This sounds SUPER! I hope they have it at the library...if not, I think I'll request it! I'm glad you found it so interesting...that's cool that your law proff had you read it! I'll let you know if I get my hands on it! Thanks for the suggestion...you're right I prob will love it!!! Thanks again *hugs*

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      #238775 - 01/15/06 09:48 PM
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MARIA! Thank you and more thank yous!

WOW!

Not only did you give me titles and authors but fabulous descriptions as well!!!! *hugs*

Mr.s Piggle Wiggle I think I read it! But I might need to read it again to make sure I am on top of all my bad habits...

All of them sound so good really! I just don't know how I will choose! Maybe I'll go in alphebetical order of all the ones I'm interested in and see what they have available at the library? This is just SO exciting! I am truly *high* on books! Yippee!!! LOL

Thanks Maria....truly, thanks!

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I identify with Hermione... new
      #238793 - 01/16/06 05:43 AM
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because she IS who I was in school, teacher's pet, always answering questions (I'd have teachers who would yell at me to stop raising my hand, I answer too many questions!), a goody-two shoes! Answering all the questions still happens in some of my classes in college, though I purposefully don't sometimes to not seem so know-it-all-ish!

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      #238816 - 01/16/06 07:28 AM
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has a great series, Xanth. Its a fantasy series set in a magical time where everyone had a certain magic power and mystical forests and dragons and odd creatures and plants and adventures! They are fun reads and very imaginative!

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      #238824 - 01/16/06 08:12 AM
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A guy I dated in high school was REALLY into this series and he got me into it. Juxtaposition was my fav in the series (interesting as I may end up needing a catheter like the robot did......that was my 1st intro to the word and I remember how it was used in the book to this day!)

Thanks for bringing back such fun memories Michele!!! *hugs*

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      #238832 - 01/16/06 08:32 AM
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All classics from me - I haven't read any new children's books in ages:

The Secret Garden by Frances Hodgson Burnett. If you have a choice of editions at the library, pick the one with the Tasha Tudor illustrations.

Little Women by Louisa May Alcott

The Jungle Books by Rudyard Kipling - there's more to these than the Mowgli stories you see in the Disney version. My favorite story is "Rikki-Tikki-Tavi", about a mongoose.

I can't really explain why these are all so important to me, but I can tell you that I still re-read them regularly.

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      #239128 - 01/17/06 09:47 AM
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OK, so I'm late ... but this is totally my subject, I LOVE kids' books and own a couple thousand (much to my husband's chagrin). I'll skip the ones already mentioned even though I dearly love Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle and Anne of Green Gables.

Some of my favorites (going by memory and by what I can see on the bookshelves by twisting my neck around) --

Lloyd Alexander -- his Prydain Chronicles are my very favorite fantasy series of all-time. I also really like the Vesper Holly books.

Joan Aiken's Wolves Chronicles -- I cried when she died recently, mainly out of pity of no new books. This series is a bit uneven but most of the books are great. "The Stolen Lake" is still my favorite.

L.M. Boston's books about Green Knowe, a very old country house in England. Probably a little tough for most ordinary kids, but super-magical for adults.

Carol Ryrie Brink's "Baby Island". About two girls who are shipwrecked with several babies. I LOVE this book and read it dozens of times when I was a little girl. She also wrote "Caddie Woodlawn" -- all of her stuff is good, really.

Meg Cabot's "Princess Diaries" series -- I haven't read all of her stuff, but what I've read is very cute and total fun fluff. "Princess Diaries" books are way better for some reason, not sure why exactly? Don't judge by the movies.

Sylvia Cassedy's books. Usually sad but very good, typically about troubled kids. "Behind the Attic Wall" is my favorite.

Eth Clifford's books about the two girls whose names I can't remember -- Jo-Beth and Mary Rose, I think? They keep getting lost/stuck in strange places, beginning with "Help! I'm a Prisoner in the Library!" Her Harvey books are cute too.

Eoin Colfer's Artemeis Fowl books. Fantasy/science fiction/genius.

Ellen Conford's books -- her ones about high school kids are the best and very funny. My favorite -- "A Royal Pain", about a girl who finds out she's really a princess (or is she?).

Caroline B. Cooney's books are all pretty good, generally about teenagers and typical/atypical problems they face. "Don't Blame the Music" (a girl whose sister has emotional problems) and "The Pary's Over" (a girl who graduates high school but doesn't go to college) are my favorites.

Sharon Creech's books are all sad and funny and true. "Walk Two Moons" is my favorite.

Paula Danziger is a good author in general. "This Place Has No Atmosphere" is my favorite -- set in the future about a girl whose parents are amongst the first of people colonizing the moon.

Elizabeth Enright's books are all good. "Gone-Away Lake" and its sequel "Return to Gone-Away" are probably my favorite, but the books featuring the Melendy family are also excellent.

Eleanor Estes -- anything, really, but "The Hundred Dresses" remains a childhood favorite and I also love the books about the Moffats.

Anything by Anne Fine. "Flour Babies" is my favorite. Hers are contemporary books about tween kids, she's a British writer.

John Fitzgerald's "Great Brain" books. Seven of them set in Utah I think in the early 1900s, about a boy and his conniving older brother.

Carolyn Haywood's books about Betsy, Billy, etc. These are very old-fashioned and charming, but a bit young.

Diana Wynne Jones writes splendid fantasy novels -- all very clever and very funny. My personal favorite is "Howl's Moving Castle" and its sequel "Castles in the Air", but I've never read a bad book by her.

Maud Hart Lovelace's Betsy books. She takes Betsy all the way from age five to a married woman. My favorites are Betsy's high school years as well as "Betsy and the Great World". I also love "Emily of Deep Valley", which isn't a Betsy book but set in the same place.

Anne Morrow Lindbergh's books are also terrific -- most of them have to do with time travel. My favorite of hers is "Three Lives to Live".

Margaret Mahy writes books that are silly nonsense or incredible densely-plotted literary treasures -- either way hey're marvelous. "The Tricksters" and "Memory" are my favorites. Most of her books are fantasy, or have some echoes or fantasy.

Robert McCloskey's "Homer Price" books should be required reading for every American child. Total classics.

Mary Nash's "Mrs. Coverlet" books are very cute -- "While Mrs. Coverlet Was Away" is a classic, but the other two are also great as well ("Mrs. Coverlet's Detectives" and "Mrs. Coverlet's Magicians").

Phyllis Reynolds Naylor's "Alice" books deal with the ups-and-downs of a typical adolescent girl. I LOVE these books even though I am no longer 13, and I still await each release. Naylor's other books are also generally good -- the Bessledorf Hotel books are cute and I really liked the York Trilogy but I can't read the spines from here to get the titles ("Footsteps in the Water", "Shadows on the Wall", something like that).

Edith Nesbit's books are all fantastic -- fantasy books written in Victorian times. "Five Children and It" was my childhood favorite but as an adult my favorite is "The Enchanted Castle". There is nothing in any modern horror movie that can top the chills that radiate through me at the Ugly-Wuglies.

Ursula Nordstrom's "The Secret Language" was also a favorite as a child. I've never read anything else by her. I believe this book is out of print -- I had a hard time finding my copy.

Mary Norton's "Borrower" books are classics and rightly so. These deal with tiny people who live in houses (if you ever read "The Littles" -- they were a rip-off of "The Borrowers) "borrowing" from the "big people".

Barbara Park's Junie B. Jones series are hilarious. Also try "Mick Harte Was Here". It's the only book I've read where I really have both laughed and cried simultaneously.

Tamora Pierce's fantasy series are very good, chock-full of strong female characters. My favorite still remains her first series starring Alanna. "The Lioness Quartet" I believe they're called.

Philip Pullman's books are all incredible. I love his recent trilogy "His Dark Materials", which is a retelling of "Paradise Lost" -- "The Golden Compass", "The Subtle Knife", "The Amber Spyglass". My favorite is the Sally Lockhart trilogy -- "The Ruby in the Smoke", "The Shadow in the North", "The Tiger in the Well". "The Tin Princess" is also a great book and is a companion book of sort to the Sally Lockhart trilogy (it features some of the characters from the trilogy).

Candice F. Ransom's Kobie books are also a priceless part of books for adolescent girls -- "Going on Twelve", "Thirteen", "Fourteen and Holding", "Fifteen at Last". There's another one she wrote later on, but I don't quite remember the title -- "Almost Ten and a Half", I believe. Her other books are also good.

Keith Robertsen's Henry Reed books are great if you like Homer Price. They are also more old-fashioned (written in the 50s or 60s I believe), but they're hilarious.

Barbara Robinson never did write that many books, but her "The Best Christmas Pageant Ever" is a classic. I much prefer, however, her book "My Brother Louis Measures Worms (and other stories)". A quick read and very funny.

Louis Sachar writes some good off-beat books -- "Sideways Stories from Wayside School" still remains the best in my opinion. This is a collection of stories about kids in a very strange school. I must've read this a hundred times as a kid.

Lemony Snickett's "A Series of Very Unfortunate Events" cannot be adequately described -- read them, they are awesome.

Zilpha Keatley Snyder is also one of those who never wrote a bad book, but my favorite is "The Velvet Room" and the Stanley kids books -- "The Headless Cupid" was the first. "The Egypt Game" is also really good.

Anything Mary Stolz wrote is good.

Sydney Taylor's "All of a Kind Family" series -- five books in all -- about a Jewish family in New York City in the early 1900s. This was one of my favorites when I was a kid. (OK, so I had a lot of favorites.)

Stephanie Tolan's Skinner family books. "The Great Skinner Strike" is the first one, where their mother goes on strike -- in the household.

Vivian Vande Velde writes intriguing fantasy novels ... intriguing because her characters are not always the typical Good or Evil. My favorites -- "User Unfriendly" (about a group of kids in an interactive computer game that ends up going awry) and "A Well-Timed Enchantment".

Gertrude Chandler Warner's Boxcar Children books -- but the real ones, as in the first 19 of the series. Any books after that were ghostwritten.

Jean Webster's "Daddy Long-Legs" and its sequel "Dear Enemy" are both very good and very funny. I didn't read these until fairly recently and somehow I had always imagined "Daddy Long-Legs" as being very soppy and treacly but this is SO not the case. (Well, except maybe for the end.)

Barbara Willard's Mantlemass Chronicles are excellent -- very good and very readable historical novels. Some of them are quite exciting as well.

Catherine Woolley's Ginnie, Cathy, or Libby books. Of all of "my" authors, I think I regard Catherine Woolley with the most fondness. "A Room For Cathy" is one of my all-time favorites. Her books are very old-fashioned (she started writing in the 1940s), but they are so homey and ordinary and cozy. I LOVE THESE BOOKS. Unfortunately, they are out of print and really tough to find. Most of mine were purchased on eBay at great expense. Some libraries do still have them.

Carol Beach York writes a variety of books but mostly suspense books. "Beware of this Shop" is one of my favorites, nice and creepy with no gore or ucky bits. Her books about the Good Day Orphanage (most of them featuring Miss Know-it-All) are also good, very cute.

my Nancy Drews (the original 56) are dearly beloved, but if you can find them, the "blue tweed" versions are way better, before they got revised.

My favorite girl detective, however, was always Trixie Belden. "The Mystery of the Emeralds" was my favorite. Although not quite as independent as Nancy, Trixie was always so much more real.

Um, anyway -- yeah, I'm a book geek. These are just the highlights, I have about 1800 more I could recommend ... !!

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was anyone else a total series slut in the 80s/90s???

Sweet Valley High/Twins, Sleepover Friends, Camp Sunnyside, Cheerleaders, Best Friends, Junior High, Canby Hall, Sunfire romances (you know, the "name" books), Scrambled Eggs, Swept Away, Sisters, Baby-Sitters Club ...

Remember when a series died??? There was never any warning or wrap-up; you would just keep waiting and waiting for the next book in the series ... but it never came. It was really sad.

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Re: AWESOME LIST! new
      #239137 - 01/17/06 10:04 AM
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This is great! I really loved "Baby Island" as well and read it over and over. Remember "The Pink Motel?" And "Two Are Better Than One!" Do you own these books? I'm SO jealous if you you!

Louis Sachar - how could I forget?!

Edward Eager mentions Edith Nesbit in his children's books. I guess he was a really big fan and wanted his readers to check out her books as well.

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      #239140 - 01/17/06 10:09 AM
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which i actually read this past summer--

coraline by neal gaiman. (his books and graphic novels for adults are also wonderful.) a *creepy* book - you should have seen the faces i made reading on the subway - but great and engrossing, too.

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      #239143 - 01/17/06 10:11 AM
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Ooh! That's a good one!

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      #239144 - 01/17/06 10:13 AM
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YES!!! I own both of those books. I thought I was the only person in the world who did!!! I always really wanted dolls like those (from "Two Are Better Than One"), didn't you?

Oh, and I can't believe that I forgot Eleanor Clymer. "The Trolley Car Family" is one of my all-time favorites and "The Get-Away Car" is also high on The List as well. (I read "The Get-Away Car" and "The Pink Motel" around the same time so they always remind me of each other.) (My husband I bought a camper last year and I was trying to explain to him my dream of living in a trolley car just like "The Trolley Car Family" but he thought I was nuts.)

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      #239146 - 01/17/06 10:14 AM
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I LOVE that book!!!! Only my sister borrowed it and lost it, so all I have left is the dust jacket. oooh, those creepy button eyes!

"Good Omens" by Gaiman and Pratchett is also fantastic but not quite a "kid's" book I guess.

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      #239317 - 01/17/06 09:27 PM
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Awesome list, Jen!

I was a HUGE Babysitter's Club fan back in the day. I also did all the Flowers in the Attic books--even when they got all weird and incestuous (anyone, anyone?)!

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I admit I'm not one for creepy... new
      #239418 - 01/18/06 09:38 AM
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so if you can give me a good reason to like it without getting well scared...maybe I'll give it a go!

Harry Potter is about as close as I get to "creepy" or "mystery"....I have enough nightmeres already (sad to say...being abused and having major anxiety/panic took all the fun out of scary stuff for me...)

I'm glad you all enjoy these books so much!!!

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Re: I admit I'm not one for creepy... new
      #239424 - 01/18/06 09:43 AM
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in that case, i'd stay away from coraline. but 'good omens' is wonderful, even though it's not a kids book.

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OH MY GOSH THANK YOU ! ! ! ! ! new
      #239425 - 01/18/06 09:44 AM
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I only wish we had a printer so I could print these out...but I have to leave for my psych appoint. in about 20 mins and still eat something...and then I leave for the library (and I don't think they have internet access there!)

If you get this in the next few mins...let me give you a sample of what I already know I like and then maybe you can help from there?

I'm religious so even Piers Anthony is a bit too racey for me (LOVED him when I was in high school...Juxtaposition is my fav of his.)

I loved Paula Danziger

I like classics...I majored in Lit in college but Brit Lit was my fav out of the classes we took

I enjoy romance. I enjoy fantasty. I enjoy bios and auto-bios.

Anne of Green Gables, Little Women, etc...all GREAT stuff!

So...I hope this helps you help me

Thanks Jen...feel free to go on and on......I'll be recovering from surgery and I plan on READING my way through recovery


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Re: AWESOME LIST! new
      #239428 - 01/18/06 09:48 AM
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The Trolley Car Family...sounds VERY familair! If it's what I'm thinking of I LOVED IT as well!

Ok...I need to eat...I'm running late!

*sigh* Books are better than food!!!! LOL

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Re: I admit I'm not one for creepy... new
      #239432 - 01/18/06 09:51 AM
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Thanks Jaime, as always, for getting back to me *hugs*

I think I will have to make another run to the library between today and next week. There are just sooo many great books!

I feel like a kid in a candy store with all my favorite jelly bean flavors (I'm addicted!) only better!


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Re: Series books new
      #239435 - 01/18/06 09:53 AM
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Yep...Babysitter's Club, Sweet Valley High...and then as I got older I was into Piers Anthony!!

And now I'm into Harry Potter (almost half-way through Book II)

Series are GREAT!!

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Re: OH MY GOSH THANK YOU ! ! ! ! ! new
      #239644 - 01/18/06 07:22 PM
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Well, I didn't read this earlier today (sorry!) but I'll take a guess as to a few of the books from my list that you might like better --

Lloyd Alexander's Prydain Chronicles
John Fitzgerald's "Great Brain" series
any of Diana Wynne Jones's books
Maud Hart Lovelace's Betsy books
Phyllis Reynolds Naylor's Alice books
any of E. Nesbit's books
Sydney Taylor's "All-of-a-Kind Family" series
Jean Webster's "Daddy Long-Legs" and "Dear Enemy"

I highly recommend doing series when you're going to be out of action for awhile -- for some reason I always enjoyed a stack of books better if they were a "group". Maybe that's just me.

Before you go to the library, swing by your local thrift shop. I get most of my kids' books there. For as $.25-$.50 per book, you can own it forever and don't have to worry about due dates. Libraries also usually have book sales 1-2 times each year where they sell their discards. I look forward to introducing my children to my book collection. Whether they like it or not.

I am so envious of you for just discovering these books for the first time!!! Make sure you post your reviews, even if you hated the book.

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V.C. Andrews new
      #239650 - 01/18/06 07:29 PM
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Aggghhh, V.C. Andrews!! I only read a few -- man, that lady had issues! The only one I know I read was about Ruby, who was in love with her brother Paul. (Half-brother, I think (yeah, like that makes it any better).) The only thing I remember was a "romantic" evening together where Paul dressed up as a soldier (???) which made the incest OK since he wasn't really her brother, he was a Confederate soldier. Or something like that.

God, I feel like a pervert even REMEMBERING those books.

I loved the Babysitters Club books, too. I always wanted to be Claudia, but deep in my heart I always had to sadly acknowledge I was really Mary Anne.

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V.C. Andrews creeped me out! new
      #239654 - 01/18/06 07:35 PM
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babysitters club! LOVE IT! I thought I was Stacey! haha -nt- new
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Re: V.C. Andrews new
      #239658 - 01/18/06 07:47 PM
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Quote:

Aggghhh, V.C. Andrews!! I only read a few -- man, that lady had issues! The only one I know I read was about Ruby, who was in love with her brother Paul. (Half-brother, I think (yeah, like that makes it any better).) The only thing I remember was a "romantic" evening together where Paul dressed up as a soldier (???) which made the incest OK since he wasn't really her brother, he was a Confederate soldier. Or something like that.

God, I feel like a pervert even REMEMBERING those books.





I'm sorry, but I can't stop laughing - because I feel the SAME WAY. I read the Flowers in the Attic series early on in middle school and was like, "What?! WHAT?! WHAAAAATTT?!?" Ick.

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Re: Children's books and authors........ new
      #239730 - 01/19/06 07:08 AM
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I'm going to second the Great Brain series - I read it when I was an early teenager. Three additions that haven't been mentioned though, from young to old in terms of age range:

- The Serendipity series by Stephen Cosgrove; for young readers, short illustrated stories each with a 'moral' theme at the end - being unique, sharing, etc.
- Bunnicula by Deborah and James Howe; a fun book from the perspective of the family dog who thinks that the new pet might not be what it seems.
- Black Beauty by Anna Sewell; just a great book, I've read it several times.

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Re: Children's books and authors........ new
      #239772 - 01/19/06 09:06 AM
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Excellent! I third the Great Brain series and Bunnicula!
I had not heard of the Serendipity series before.

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Serendipity!!! new
      #239862 - 01/19/06 12:22 PM
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I LOVED those books!!!! *hurray* I didn't know who the author was but now that I do, thanks to you, I am on the case!

What are the others about? "Sell me" on em...why should I check them out?

Thanks! I always wondered if I was the only person in the WORLD that read those Serendipty books!! LOL Glad to know they weren't just my "imagination"

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Anything Robert Munsch, (here comes a BIG LIST!) new
      #239869 - 01/19/06 12:46 PM
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and Eric Carle for the little ones: SEuss, Judy Blume, Junie B. Jones series...
For older elementary kids there's anything Farley Mowat, Steven King's The Eyes of the Dragon, Firewing, Hoot,The City of Ember, there's a series beginning with A oh man....
... that's really good and I can't remember!!I can even see them,it's driving me nuts. I'll search it...

Charlotte's Web, Old Yeller, Lion Witch and Wardrobe, oh gosh, I could go on forever.

I will find out the title of that series. The kids are wild about them.

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      #239873 - 01/19/06 12:50 PM
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Artemis Fowl. He's a kid with some neat powers. Of course, to add to that, the harry potter collection is supposedly a phenom. I, however, self-professed live for teaching teacher, have never read ONE!

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Oh, Jen, we forgot some... new
      #239880 - 01/19/06 01:01 PM
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Cannot forget THE BEST CHRISTMAS PAGEANT EVER-it is seriously HILARIOUS!

And its sequel-"The best School Year Ever".
Good call on the Boxcar children. Still a good story as you follow through the series.

As well, you have to read Takes of a Fourth Grade Nothing ( I think that's Farley Mowat)for a good laugh. I'm probably suggesting a lot of canadiana that I don't even realize.

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Re: Oh! Oh! I remember! new
      #239887 - 01/19/06 01:06 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions! It is DEF time to buy a printer so I can print out this thread and take it with me to the library!

You must read Harry Potter! I implore you. Do it! You'll be glad you did!

What do you like to read for yourself? That might helps give me an idea if you would enjoy HP or not....but I think there is something in it for all (twists and turns, magic, fantasy, etc....). Just my thoughts on the matter

Sending you love (btw, how's your daughter from New Years? All better I hope!)

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Re: Oh, Jen, we forgot some... new
      #239888 - 01/19/06 01:09 PM
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Tales of the 4th Grade Nothing! I read that one!

I didn't realize it....but looking back I was quite the little reader! It's all coming back now as we discuss books and series....I don't know if I was ever without a book to read.

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Re: Children's books and authors........ new
      #239890 - 01/19/06 01:09 PM
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I forgot all about Black Beauty. I haven't read it since I was a child - probably because I cried buckets the first time. It is a wonderful book and a definite must-read.

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What I was able to check out yesterday *drum roll* new
      #239894 - 01/19/06 01:16 PM
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Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farms

Anne of Green Gables (read it many times but wanted to again)

Judy Blume's--Just As Long As We're Together (one of my faves from childhood)

Laura Ingalls--Little House on the Praries (first time!!)

Rebecca Lisle--Copper (stumbled upon this on my own)

And we can only put 3 on hold at a time! So I have on hold now Clan of the Cavebears, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, and Little House (which I found so I will need to take it off the holds list when I go to the library again...which I hope to do before the surgery!)

Thanks you to EVERYONE for the suggestion! Keep em' coming as I plan to make 1-2 more trips before the surgery next Thursday!!!

Thanks again...you're all the best!

With love and HAPPINESS!!!!!

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Nancy Drew, Trixie Belden ... Kay Tracey new
      #239895 - 01/19/06 01:18 PM
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I may be the only living person who ever read them, but I really enjoyed the Kay Tracey mysteries. They were written by the same author who originated the Nancy Drew series. After 40 years, I still remember clearly the moment in "The Six-Fingered Glove Mystery" when Kay figured out what was wrong with that glove.

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      #239901 - 01/19/06 01:35 PM
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I LOVED Trixie Belden! OMG! I read all her books, then wrote the publishers BEGGING them to please publish MORE! For some strange reason, I never got an answer. And they never published any more either. I wanted to BE Trixie Beldon!

I was in elementary school. Then I "graduated" to Nancy Drew. EXCELLENT books for kids, just TERRIFIC!

Wow, what a trip down memory lane....

Oh, by the way, I never wrote another fan letter since that one -- except recently. I wrote to Ann Rule, the fantastic author who writes about true murder stories, including "The Stranger Beside Me" (Ted Bundy) and "Small Sacrifices." She's even better than Trixie Belden and Nancy Drew! I told her I'd never written a fan letter since I wrote to the publishers of Trixie Belden. Ann Rule responded to me, believe it or not, and said she too remembered Trixie Belden very well.

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Re: Nancy Drew, Trixie Belden ... Kay Tracey new
      #239927 - 01/19/06 02:16 PM
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You aren't the only one! I read Nancy Drew in elementary along with the Hardy Boys! As a 5th grade teacher I love children's book! One of my favorites is one calle The Last of the Really Great Whangdoodles by Julie Andrews! Yes the actor/singer. It is one of the few she has written and my teacher read it to me in school and i read it to my kids every year! It is the best. Another favorite is Fig Pudding by Ralph fletcher. Great kids book!

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Re: ROBERT MUNSCH RULES!!!!!! new
      #239952 - 01/19/06 03:02 PM
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I saw him in the early 80's when I was in public school. He's so animated. Plus he lives in Guelph which is only an hour away where I live, and my bro and many friends lived there. Did you know he makes surprise visits to schools? He gets a letter from a class, and literally shows up in the office saying "Hi. I'm Bob Munsch." He's amazing.
My Mom cries EVERY time she reads "Love you forever".
Did you know he has bipolar?

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      #239961 - 01/19/06 03:39 PM
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I'd love to see him. he's my all time favorites. I cry every time I read love you forever, and we read Mortimer before bed all the time. I ahve seen a Much More Munsch play as a teacher, and loved it. he is AWESOMEE! We can be Munsch groupies.

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Hi Rach! new
      #239966 - 01/19/06 03:45 PM
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Yes, I am such a loser having not read HP. He's a cult symbol, LOL!
I read a lot of nonfiction- self-help, a lot of educational stuff. i've laid off the novels for the last while because they were so forced down my throat during university and my English degree.

I do like reading in chunks though. I'm big into magazines. Plus, this is my attention span, lol-cut it into little pieces....Welcome to having a three year old and no time to really have to myself...

But you really have me thinking I should get into it agian.


Kayleigh is great again, thank goodness. We celebrated her third birthday on the 11th. Where has the time gone?? My baby is a KID now.

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I was a readaholic...well, guess I still am, but now it's reading on the computer! new
      #239973 - 01/19/06 04:42 PM
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Re: ROBERT MUNSCH RULES!!!!!! new
      #239974 - 01/19/06 04:42 PM
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WAIT a sec...I think I read this book "Love You Forvever" is it also a movie? I did NOT know he has bipolar! It seems many creatvie people do I'm learning

Great to see you Alicia! *hugs*

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Re: Oh my gosh! new
      #239976 - 01/19/06 04:45 PM
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This pic of Kaylee is TOO CUTEEEEE!!!!

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Han Solo and Ruchie, (and BL too, I guess!) new
      #239977 - 01/19/06 04:45 PM
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See, now you guys can feel a little less uncomfortable about bipolar. Bipolar, I believe, is an affliction of those with genius.
It must be, look at you!!

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Re: Hi Rach! new
      #239982 - 01/19/06 04:51 PM
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Hi Shannon!! :-)

You are far from being a loser...even if you aren't reading HP LOL Seriouly...you're fab!

You majored in Eng Lit as well? My fav was Brit Lit...what was yours?

Reading in spurts did you mean or in chunks?

Sorry I'm so scattered tonight! LOL Brain fog is here aagin

I'm glad Kayleigh is doing well! How was the b-day party?

Sending lots of love to you and your fam! *mwah*

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Nancy Drew fans! new
      #239983 - 01/19/06 04:55 PM
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What did you like about Nancy Drew? I recall being scared when I read this as a kid...but maybe I could hadle this now? How does it comapre with Harry Potter in terms of "fear factor"?

Thanks! *hugs*

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Name of book...help please! new
      #239984 - 01/19/06 04:57 PM
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There was a book I read in high school about selling chocolates and football (with chocolate in the name I believe) and it was a scandulous book. I'm sure it's won awards.

Anyone know the name of this book...I would love to read it again?!

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I thought that Harry Potter was rather overrated--n.t. new
      #239985 - 01/19/06 04:58 PM
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Re: Han Solo and Ruchie, (and BL too, I guess!) new
      #239986 - 01/19/06 05:00 PM
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If I'm a genious how come no one's figured it out yet (and they say my IQ is average!)

Thanks for this. I needed it tonight. Sometimes I just feel so stupid. Spoke to dad-in-law and was on a "high" and just felt so dumb! Like I was soooo hyper I feel like he probably just wanted to get off the phone with me (I was brave and called him without hubby being here!) I needed this in a big way right now...thank you *hugs* *hugs* *hugs*

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Re: I was a readaholic...well, guess I still am, but now it's reading on the computer! new
      #239987 - 01/19/06 05:01 PM
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Can I be a geek too?

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Kate, if you don't mind....I'm curious why not? new
      #239988 - 01/19/06 05:05 PM
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I like it. I didn't think I would with all the hoopla. But I just do.

I like the characters. (I like how I see them in my head more than the movie though!)

I DO feel like I'm just scratching the surface with reading "scary" things. (YEs, I'm a weakling and I find HP on the scary side of things.)

Why don't you like it Kate? I would love to hear WHY/what was it about it that you felt was overrated? If it had been a series without any publicity would you have thought the same?

When hubby and I saw the Grand Canyon I was't impressed. Too much hoopla! But when I see an ordinary moutnain I am impressed. Is this your experience with Harry Potter or do you just think it was porrly written?

Thanks for your opinion...it is well taken here

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aww, no prob... new
      #239993 - 01/19/06 05:32 PM
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I get really hyper sometimes, too, but it's not ever really followed with darkness. It'd almost be nice if the manic states could stick around a while, eh?

Do you have a good relationship with your FIL? IS he a male figure you feel you can trust? I know for me they're few and far between and I embrace the ones that I do trust. Most men, however, i assume , are out to abuse me.....:( Thankfully, I don't feel that about DH, but he's still trying to convince me he's not a cheater and won't leave me high and dry like every man did my mom, LOL! Stupid.

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Thanks. IMHO... new
      #239994 - 01/19/06 05:34 PM
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she's a freakin princess! I actually took her to a modelling agency, when she was 6 months old, but they wanted to charge me $50 to get photos done. nah...if it's meant to be, they'll pay for it. And I don't want a teenage modelling daughter-no thanks to the anorexia and drugs!

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Re: aww, no prob... new
      #239996 - 01/19/06 05:39 PM
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I hardly know him! He lives VERY far away! So I don't see him or talk with him much...

Yeah, I have that too! Scared of my own shadow! Being abused is really very damaging! I am beginning however (with the help of meds I do believe) to picture myself as being alert and ready to pummel any man who gets too close! LOL I really am though! If a man LOOKS at me the wrong way....poor him!

And yes I worry about hubby abandoning me. But it's getting better the longer we're together. And therapy helps too...I hope you will get better with this with time *hugs*

Thanks again...you seriously made my night!

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      #239997 - 01/19/06 05:41 PM
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well, to clarify,
I do read in little chunks of time-never catch me doing it for more than an hour, except for Parents Magazine, which I cannot put down once i begin it. That's a good three hour marathon read. Then it's bathroom lit for a month.

As for my English major-see I was planning on writing children's books-I have written but not published one.... then thought about going into journalism...then special ed came and knocked me over. I love my career. Whenever it actually starts, LOL!

My favorite was really American Lit right around the 1920's to 40's. Like I said, the grteat Gatsby, The Sound and The Fury, EVERYTHING Hemingway... but honestly, I also fell for Sir William in my Shakespeare class. Love his sonnets. (oh, yes, I'm a poet too.I'll share with you all in a new thread my latest poem. I only write when I'm in awe or in agony.)
Canadian literature is fabulous though. I never did get to taking any English lit courses, and read few of the 1800's classics....I like the edgy, strong drama stuff. For the drama queen, ahem.


Well there's a life story, lol...i miss writing. maybe I should write again.

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Well, look at her mom! new
      #239998 - 01/19/06 05:42 PM
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Like mother like daughter!!!!

Yeah I did the modeling gig for Bonwit Teller (sp) when I was like 3. I didn't want to go back.

LOL

Then as a teenager I wanted to do acting and modeling. Thank G-d neither ever worked out! I'm happy without all that jazz

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Love you too, Ruch, and new
      #240003 - 01/19/06 05:58 PM
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I'm glad and sad at the same time that we can heal ourselves from the abuses of childhood togeter. And the longer I'm with Trevor the less "psycho" I am about him leaving me for someone else. He's really not even a guy who LOOKS at girls, just totally a commitment man...so stupid that you sometimes can't shut off that voice...

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Oh you are TOO sweet! new
      #240004 - 01/19/06 06:00 PM
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and thank you! wree're having a mush party, lol....

I used to be a super hottie back in the day. I'll see if I can take a pic of a pic of me from high shool. Size five, and blooooonde hair.

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I guess i can let you into my club. Population: 2. LOL! -nt- new
      #240005 - 01/19/06 06:01 PM
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coool

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Oh, Freckle juice by Judy Blume... new
      #240009 - 01/19/06 06:09 PM
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another goofy one.

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Re: Name of book...help please! new
      #240010 - 01/19/06 06:20 PM
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You're probably thinking of "The Chocolate War", by Robert Cormier. I've never read it myself (YES!!! there are books out there I haven't read!!) but it's supposed to be a classic. I think it came out in the 70s.

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Re: Nancy Drew, Trixie Belden ... Kay Tracey new
      #240013 - 01/19/06 06:30 PM
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I also read Kay Tracey!!! I actually own three or four of them but, like most of my Nancy Drews, they are the "updated" versions. Even the cruddy updates are hard to find, though.

Mildred Wirt Benson was from Iowa so she's somewhat of a legend around here. Her books were definitely a lot better than the other series writers.

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Re: OMG! Trixie Belden! new
      #240015 - 01/19/06 06:34 PM
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Bev ... they published Trixie Belden books up until the early 80s! I think the last one came out in 1983? (I can't remember exactly off the top of my head.) At any rate, they must've listened to you after all about publishing more, since I am pretty sure you were out of elementary school by then.

I always wanted to BE Trixie, but I wanted to LOOK like Di. I always sort of vaguely hoped I'd wake up one day with long black hair and violet eyes, but somehow it never happened.

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Re: Nancy Drew fans! new
      #240017 - 01/19/06 06:37 PM
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Harry Potter is a lot scarier! The revised Nancy Drews (which are pretty much all you can find these days) mainly have generic cartoon violence/scary moments. As an adult you won't find them scary in the least! If you can find them, try reading the Applewood Press reprints of the original Nancy Drews. They are SO much better than the revisions they began in the 50s.

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Re: Kate, if you don't mind....I'm curious why not? new
      #240018 - 01/19/06 06:39 PM
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While an enjoyable story, I thought that it received more media attention than it deserved. It is not a work of literary genius. It is mostly a marketing success, in my opinion.

Did you find it scarey? I thought it was funny versus frightening. I found it tiresomely predictable & more or less a formula series of novels.

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Re: Pierce Anthony new
      #240020 - 01/19/06 06:43 PM
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Xanth is fun! Do you like Mercedes Lackey? Tracy Hickman?

I like some of the SF/F work of Elizabeth Moon. And then there is always David Eddings. I still love "The Belgariad."

Oh dear, how could I neglect Terry Brooks? Have you read any Terry Brooks? The "Shanara" Books?

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Re: Love you too, Ruch, and new
      #240036 - 01/19/06 07:18 PM
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Our 1st year of marriage was just awful! I thought he would leave me for sure! 2nd year not much better. In our 3rd year now I am FINALLY beginning to believe he might not leave after all. That he loves me.

SO sad! I totaly understand how you feel...I'm glad to have someone who understands I must say...so thanks for bringing it up *hugs*

Love you bunches!

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P.s. Who would EVER leave you?? Not someome too bright or perceptive that's for SURE!

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Thanks for the response, you've got mail! n-t new
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Re: Oh you are TOO sweet! new
      #240041 - 01/19/06 07:28 PM
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LOL Mush mush!!!!

You too? I was like a size 0-2 (anorexic) and looked like Jennifer Aniston! Not anymore...now I just look like me

Def show us a pic! That would rock!

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WRITER, oh writer where art thou? new
      #240042 - 01/19/06 07:36 PM
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Def get back into writing! It sounds like it's as natural for you as breathing. You should def do it if you miss it!

American Lit...really? What was so appealing to you?

Drama Queen!! LOL You are BOT, silly! Funny, clever...yes....mellodramatic (in a fun way), maybe. A drama QUEEN....that's a little overboard dontchya think

If you are though...I don't see it. Perhaps I don't know you well enough (or perhaps your exaggerating...sorry couldn't resist!)

Who are some famous Canadian authors?

Brit lit...ah yes! I miss those classes! Not just Shakespear....almost everything we read in that class was wonderful. Jane Eyre (cannot recall the names of the other books...but I know the characters well!)

Of course Shakespear was quite wonderful.

I miss writing papers. Hubby and I were just talking about that the other day. I want to go back to school! LOL

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Thanks Jen,..I'm on the lookout! n-t new
      #240043 - 01/19/06 07:39 PM
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dead on, Kate new
      #240044 - 01/19/06 07:39 PM
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I do think she has a great imagination, but she made a big mistake when she decided that she was going to be all serious and dramatic and literary. When I think about all of the capital letters squandered in #5 it makes me weep. Her characters are also rather cardboard-ish. I find it interesting how blah Harry himself is. Take a moment to sit down and write down his five most unique characteristics. ... Yeah, I know, me neither.

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YES!!!! That's IT!!!! Jen... new
      #240045 - 01/19/06 07:41 PM
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you must read it! I loved it! Read it in high school! I will have to re-read it. We had to write a paper on it. It was delightful (I loved writing papers...weird huh?)

If you read it let me know what you think.

I searched on line for books with chocolate and it never came up! I'm SO thankful you knew or I would have just stayed stumped! Thanks again, you're the best *hugs*

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Re: Pierce Anthony new
      #240047 - 01/19/06 07:45 PM
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Shanara sounds awfully familair...is it a series about a girl who "plays" a boy and gets to fight? Or was that Allana? I'm so bad with names!

What is the "BElgariad" about? Terry Brooks? Mercedes Lackey, Tracy Hickman? New names for me...

And Elizabeth Moon? What did she write? Sounds very familair...

Anyone have any ideas on how to keep track of all this stuff? I've gotten so many new authors/naems of books...I'm having a tough time keeping it all straight.

Thanks Kate! *hugs*

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wow, great picks! new
      #240049 - 01/19/06 07:52 PM
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Let me know how you like "Copper". I haven't read it yet but it looks intriguing!

I actually read "Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm" as an adult -- I never read it as a kid because I thought it sounded sort of treacle-ish, but I was so wrong!! (Well, mostly.) Gotta love the cheesecloth graduation dresses. I always felt so cheated though about the way it ended, though.

Have you really not read the Little House books??? I can't believe any little girl could not read those growing up. I love all of the books -- but my favorite is "The Long Winter". Guess there's something just ultra-heartwarming about a family nearly starving to death in a harsh Dakota winter. I always cry every time Pa realizes he can't play the fiddle because his hands are so stiff and chapped from the cold.

You know what, this is like my all-time favorite thread EVER, but I am thinking that it's probably revealing what a colossal geek I am. Although I guess maybe everyone had kind of guessed that already.

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Re: dead on, Kate new
      #240050 - 01/19/06 07:52 PM
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I think the fact that Harry is "boring" makes many people relate to him well.

So many of us wish we could be special. I think that's part of the appeal. He doesn't know he's special living with the Dursleys...but given a chance in a different world...he's special. Many of us feel that way. Like if only the world were different "they" (our parents, teachers, friends...) would see just how special we are. And who deosn't want to have a magical life?

I think many people can relate to it is all I'm saying. Perhaps simple is better? Just taking a stab here.

I'm not quite sure why I like it? But I def like how "normal" Harry is and how annoying Hermoine is and how "uncool" Ron is. I like the trio. And I LOVE her imagination! I think I like this best.

Only halfway through book 2 btw. Perhaps I won't like it as much as the series continues?

Anyway...just my thoughts (trying really hard not to delete this! I'm usually not one to state my opinion esp. if I know others might disagree. Ok Ruchie, just press the "Continue" button....)

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Re: wow, great picks! new
      #240051 - 01/19/06 07:59 PM
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Thanks Jen!

If you're a geek...I wanna be just like you! I've always wished I were a fast reader and had a vast vocab...but I have 7 Ld's so I go slow. And my vocab has little to be desired. (For example, what does treacle mean?) Can I "play" you in a book??

Never wanted to read the Little House books. I was tomboy-ish as a kid so I wasn't into "girly" things (being abused made it worse!)and now I am finally getting in touch with my femaninity and I LOVE IT! LOL

I'll let you know what I think of Copper! It def does look intriguiging! I'm thinking of reading it as soon as I finish the 2nd HP book. I'll let you know. I'm hoping to have it finished by Sunday night!

Well...I'd better go READ! Yahoo! (P.S. It's one of my fave threads too...but remember I started so I'm the bigger geek! I win!!!) LOL Love you Jen *hugs* *hugs*

Btw, thanks to you and everyone for being part of this thread! You're making my upcomign surgery less scary and I'm able to focus on it less with my IBS family and collection of books by my side!!!

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And the mallorean... new
      #240058 - 01/19/06 08:33 PM
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I read all those series last year. I loved them, but I admit that I was ready for a new group of characters afterwards.

If you like those try George R.R. Martin's series (love it!) and also Robin Hobb series---first book is the Assassin's apprentice, and it's a rough start but by the end you'll be hooked and it's 2 trilogies, I couldn't get enough and was sad I finished them.

I haven't read the Xanth series, but I did read the Piers Anthony books about Thanatos, Chronos, etc, those were pretty awesome.

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Re: Yep, I agree about HP... new
      #240073 - 01/19/06 10:32 PM
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The book could have used some editing. The writing was a bit clunky.

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      #240077 - 01/19/06 10:40 PM
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You're right, I think the author has a great imagination.

Don't delete your thoughts and opinions! They're important and it's great to have real discussions here.

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Re: Children's books and authors........ new
      #240087 - 01/20/06 04:35 AM
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Hey Ruchie,

I am really out of the loop here and don't even know what kind of surgery you are having. Not having internet really stinks! I keep you in my prayers even when I am not on line. I think you are such a special person.

My favorite children's book is The Giving Tree by Shel Silverstein. This is the most wonderful book and I read it over and over to my kids when they were growing up. Actually, I love all of Shel Silverstein's books. He has several books of poetry.

I haven't read through all the posts so I don't know if someone else mentioned this or not. If so sorry for the repeat.

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Re: Y'all might want to rethink the IQ thing.... new
      #240099 - 01/20/06 05:50 AM
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My Doctor when I was diagnosed stressed how common it is for bipolar people to be highly creative and intelligent. I never considered myself overly smart - definitely creative from the musical sense, but not overly intelligent. Guess what my IQ came back to be? 135!!!!! I just about passed out! I couldn't believe it. Here I have a brother with a freakin PH.D., a hubby and BIL who are engineers, and they all had scary high averages in HS. Just goes to show!

On a footnote, I also believe that IQ tests CANNOT and NEVER will be a total measure of intelligence. Creativity is not possible to measure nor ever will be. Some things simply cannot be measured.



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Thanks Alicia *hugs* new
      #240137 - 01/20/06 07:40 AM
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I know IQ doesn't mean everything. I just went through so much pain with school.....

But I did it! With 7 LD's, ADD, and bipolar and post traumatic stress...I graduated AND got a 4.0 my final semester graduating with a 3.0

I usually forget that I did this and tell myself how horrible I am But you reminded me I WAS creative in order to make it! Ex... I got the people at the learning assistance center to allow me as many hours as I wanted for tutoring when they only allowed like 2 a week! (Or maybe that was cause they had never seen someone work so hard at school in all their years there!! LOL This had actually been told to me there on occasion!)

Thanks again Alicia. I truly needed to hear this. Maybe I'm not so bad off with my brains after all

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In defense of Rowling! new
      #240139 - 01/20/06 07:48 AM
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Most people don't have it all. This is why people get together and team up on things.

Rowling has a SPECTACULAR imagination! And she is able to weave a story together and line it up with sequence and storyline.

I'm not a good judge at the predictibility factor (esp since I haven't finished book II yet. I'm not sure who the voice Harry keeps hearing is yet nor do I know who frightened Mrs. Norris) so I can't comment here. I will say I was surprised at Proff Quirrel...but I NEVER read Who-Done-Its so this is super fun for me and I truly had no idea who it was (looking back I might have known due to certain things...like Quirrel's stutter and the way he arrived on the scene with the troll....but this is looking back. I wonder if I am right with the 2nd book? I'll let you know)....but again it depends on WHY you are reading a book as well.

I'm sure there are some authors who have it all. And perhaps that makes them GREAT. But if you are looking for a fun read that is deep enough without being too much fluff I LOVE IT!

Sorry Maria...I think your comment just went to my head...about sharing my voice! Maimonides (or Nachmonides, can never remember) says to go to the extreme before you come to a balance. Hope my extreme doesn't last too long. Sorry if I've said too much!

*Ruchie, STOP TALKING...errr writing*

Love you Maria *hugs*

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Maria...how many new
      #240140 - 01/20/06 07:49 AM
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of the books did you read?

I'm wondering as I do some writing myself...what was clunky about her writing? I'm trying to learn from the good and the bad of other authors...help me out here! I would love your feedback specifically, thanks!!

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Re: Children's books and authors........ new
      #240141 - 01/20/06 08:02 AM
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Janey!

SOOO Great to see you! *hugs* *hugs* *hugs*

I LOVE this book as well!!! Isn't it super!

How are you doing these days? I'm doing ok. My surgery is next Thur. We are doing exploratory surgery for Interstitial Cystitis which is inflammation of the bladder. This means that when I eat certain foods and come in contact with allergens that I ingest I am doing dammage to the bladder wall (if I have it...which is almost a sure bet). So I will need to restrict my diet down to almost nothing!!! But I will get through it. I'm nervous about the surgery and recovery which is why I posted this thread. I enjoy reading very much...it's one of my best friends and I am into children's books now as it helps me heal from PTSD. This post is getting me through!

Ok...off to reading! Can't wait to hear how you're doing when you get a moment!

Sending you lots of love Janey...you're sooo special always remember that!!!! *hugs*

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Re: Maria...how many new
      #240182 - 01/20/06 09:30 AM
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I've only read the first two, so maybe it isn't my place to judge! I've read parts of the later books. I wish I had a copy of the book with me, so I could give you examples.

What do you enjoy writing? I've read your poems and know that you have a great way with words. Have you thought about writing children's books? Maybe this surgery and all the reading you're doing will inspire you to write some stories!

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Re: Maria...how many new
      #240194 - 01/20/06 09:48 AM
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I write poems (as you know) and song lyrics and I was working on (yes, odd I know!) a horror novel in college. I scared myself and had to stop writing it LOL

I am beginning to consider children's book actually! I'll let you know if something develops.

No prob about not having the books to give examples. Do you recall if it was grammar or sequence? If it was related to that I'll be on the lookout.

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Re: In defense of Rowling! new
      #240198 - 01/20/06 09:49 AM
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I'm sure there are some authors who have it all. And perhaps that makes them GREAT. But if you are looking for a fun read that is deep enough without being too much fluff I LOVE IT! I agree with you there! I think there is as much value in escapism and entertainment as there is literature with "deep meaning."

Sorry Maria...I think your comment just went to my head...about sharing my voice! Maimonides (or Nachmonides, can never remember) says to go to the extreme before you come to a balance. Hope my extreme doesn't last too long. Well, you definitely don't seem extreme to me! But I agree that what you want to aim for is moderation. Sorry if I've said too much! Never!!! You always put a lot of thought behind your words. But I think I know how you feel. Those lovely GAD feelings, maybe?

*Ruchie, STOP TALKING...errr writing* Nooo!! LOL! *Hugs*





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Re: Horror novel! new
      #240202 - 01/20/06 09:59 AM
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A horror novel? And you scared yourself? That is both awesome and funny, Ruchie!

Since I can't be specific, I'll say that in general there's too much exposition in Rowling's books. Details can be important, but you could skip paragraphs - even pages - in Harry Potter and it doesn't affect the story one way or another. In addition, her sentence structure is weak, too many prepositions, too many passive verbs. But considering the success of her books and how connected readers feel with the characters and how invested they are in the story arc, maybe I'm the one who has a problem! Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.

Yes, please tell me if you decide to write a story!

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Elizabeth Moon (edited) new
      #240238 - 01/20/06 12:01 PM
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Note: These are NOT children's books. No way, no how.

My very favorite Elizabeth Moon is "Sheepfarmer's Daughter". The back cover blurb says:

Paksenarrion - Paks for short - is somebody special. She knows it, even if nobody else does yet. No way will she follow her father's orders to marry the pig farmer down the road. She's off to join the army, even if it means she can never see her family again.

For me, it's one of those "impossible to put down" books. It's the first in a trilogy and the first half of the second book ("Divided Allegiance") is just as good. After that, the rest of the trilogy is still readable, but not spectacular - and kind of weird.

She's also written the Serrano Legacy books - I've read a handful of them. "Once A Hero" is excellent. It's a good adventure story and it also deals with family issues around abuse. The other books in the Serrano Legacy series are:
Hunting Party, Sporting Chance, Winning Colors, Rules of Engagement, Change of Command, and Against the Odds. I don't actually remember which ones I've read, but they were all good adventure stories featuring strong, likable women.

She's also written some other stuff, both Fantasy and SciFi that I haven't gotten to yet.

As for keeping track of all the books you want to read, if you figure something out, please let me know. I've got scraps of paper with books written on them, word documents on my computer (some with one document for each author, some "lists" like "100 best scifi"). I've tried spreadsheets, data bases. I'm really starting to think 3x5 cards, like the old card catalogs, are the way to go. Then when I go to the library, I can just pull out a random handful to take along.

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A horse, a dog, and some goody-two-shoes - more classics new
      #240243 - 01/20/06 12:13 PM
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The Black Stallion by Walter Farley - I loved this when I was around 10. A 17-year old boy and an unbroken stallion are shipwrecked together. They learn to trust each other and, when rescued, go on to become a racing phenomenon. Written in 1941.

Treve by Albert Payson Terhune - A valuable dog is damaged and abandoned by his money-grubbing owner, only to be taken in and cared for. Copyright 1924 - it seems to be out of print.

Heidi by Johanna Spyri - A really nice book.

The Five Little Peppers - I always sympathized with Joel, who spoke his mind, even to the minister's icky sister.

Pollyanna by Eleanor H. Porter - I didn't read this until I was an adult. Although "Pollyanna" has become something of an insult, it's actually about appreciating what you have.

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You're totally right, new
      #240335 - 01/20/06 03:57 PM
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Alicia. I ahve a 142 IQ and feeluterly stupid a lot of the time. it's not your IQ, it's your I CAN.

I believe that gifted/highly intelligent people have far more to worry about, because their brains don't shut up. may just be me, but my mind is on 24/7. Sometimes I beg it to shut up!

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Oh, stop it! new
      #240337 - 01/20/06 03:59 PM
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You make me blush. And the same goes for you, by the way. Everyone else sees what we don't allow ourselves to....

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LOL! I miss writing papers too-it'd be ideal new
      #240338 - 01/20/06 04:06 PM
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if they were free courses, and there was no deadline. Of course, i'd never write them,LOL! I need that gun to the head.

Anyhow, I exaggerate on a regular basis. No I'm not a drama queen, only when I have to be. but I'm a "big fish" tale spinner-they're always true, but usually involvel esser details.
I try not to exaggerate on here...not like IRL, LOL!

I don't know what I liked about American lit. Might just have been my prof's choice of books and his teachign style.

As for Canadian Lit-read Such a Long Journey by Rohinton Mistry. His more famous novel is A Fine balance. I read a ton of great female writers and can't recall the books right now. beautiful writing, and all fairly contemporary(in our lifetimes)

But the crap I read might be too risky for you, knowing the delicate flower you are. I used to be a real rebel back then- I'd probably be shocked at it now.LOL!


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Re: wow, great picks! new
      #240419 - 01/21/06 09:33 AM
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no! you don't want to be just like me! I'm both a lit geek AND a computer geek, so I am double-jinxed. This guarantees never having any dates except with guys who spray when they talk and are resentful because Angelina Jolie has never answered their fan mail. Unless, of course, you meet someone fabulous like my husband, who can look beyond the geekiness to what really matters -- my income potential. Ha ha. Just kidding. Mostly.

The Little House books are definitely NOT girly at all. There are actually lots of boys out there who read them as well. Sure, Laura may walk around in a skirt, but SHE is definitely what I would consider a tomboy, even if she does grow up to curl her bangs with a heated slate pencil. And go to parties where every guest gets a WHOLE ORANGE. And have calling cards of her very own, which cost a dime. And be courted by Almanzo, who comes every weekend to fetch her home from her teaching job where she boards with the crazy lady who gets up in the middle of the night to threaten her husband with a butcher knife.

Wow, can you tell I have read those books WAY too much?

One great thing is that you can also visibly see Laura's progress as a writer as the books go on. When I was little, "Little House in the Big Woods" was my favorite, but as I got older I liked the later books a lot better. When I got older yet, I realized that this is because the later books formed more of a cohesive narrative -- as Laura began to write, she was a lot more stilted and there was little to no dialogue. More like an anecdote being told, rather than a story. And anecdotes are fine, but I much prefer stories.

"The Long Winter" is my favorite, but "Little Town on the Prairie" is a very close second. Once you read all of them you'll have to let me know which one you prefer.

Oh -- and treacle is another term for molasses. I think this is probably a British term because I remember reading it mainly in British books (I also saw a lot of references to "treacle pudding"). It's also used to indicate something that is icky-sweet. Like overly sentimental Victorian literature.

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Re: wow, great picks! new
      #240489 - 01/21/06 06:20 PM
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Still wanna be like you if you can read quickly and have a vast vocab! SO THERE nanner nanner

Thanks for the def. of treacle.

WOW! You are SO observant...listen to you go on about Laura Ingalls and how her writing improved. You have a LOT of talent missy don't ever think otherwise.

People that are observant are in my opinion TRES COOL!!!

Sending you love and hugs and THANkS!

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I tell my brain AND my talker to be quiet all the time!!!! n-t new
      #240528 - 01/22/06 08:07 AM
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Re: Oh, stop it! new
      #240529 - 01/22/06 08:22 AM
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Just being honest Shannon!

And yes...tis true...we often do not see ourselves quite right...esp. when we are told how awful for years and years....

We believe what we are told. If I tell you an apple is an apple and I call it that for years you will believe I'm right! Funny story...I know a woman (brilliant btw!) who was tuaght that a mango was called something else all her life (I think the something else was an avocado). She never knew there was a mango fruit! Boy was she surprised when her to-be hubby asked her to buy an avocado and she brought home a mango fruit!!)

So you see! We believe what we are taught.

Now believe this

I am Shannon and I am beautiful, intelligent, wonderful, a GREAT friend, creative, and just plain FANTASTIC!!!!

*hugs*

New tape recorder starts playing NOW!!

Oh and hubby thinks I'm just the most wonderful woman that ever walked the planet and he will be with me for all the days of our lives because he loves me and knows how lucky he is to have me.

Tell yourself the TRUTH SHannon!!!!! *hugs*

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Re: Y'all might want to rethink the IQ thing.... new
      #240533 - 01/22/06 08:30 AM
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Alicia's right! (which is funny that I agree bc I give at least one child an IQ test every week for work ). Anyways... People with learning disabilities have to have IQs within the average to high average range. IQ's tell what your ability SHOULD be.. but not necessarily what someones true performance ability is. In addition, its important to look at many other factors, such as interests, talents, long term performance in schools, rather then placing all the emphasis on an IQ score.

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Re: LOL! I miss writing papers too-it'd be ideal new
      #240536 - 01/22/06 08:34 AM
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LOL You crack me up!

Thanks for the Canadian author lead...will have to add it to my now insanely long (BUT SO GREAT!!!! YAY) list of books to read! Don't you just love even the feel of books in your hands and having them around the house?

I know you're not a drama queen...but I bet you right kickin books! Can't wait till you're published!!! Let me know....

So I'll give you a topic and you me and we'll write papers. Can you believe I truly miss them THAT MUCH?!?!

Yeah...I am pretty naive in many ways...but in others not so much. It's a weird mixture. I've been overexposed and so in order to protect myserlf I "hide away" somewhere. Strange....

How's your weekend going?

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Re: Y'all might want to rethink the IQ thing.... new
      #240540 - 01/22/06 08:41 AM
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So how would you classify me Dr. Spice?

7 LD's, ADD, an avergae IQ score, but I got myself through school with decent grades (had no friends doing it though...who has time when you work THAT hard??) receiving a 4.0 my final semester in college and a 3.0 overall? What does this say about me? I would LOVE your opinion! I feel like you can be objective for me.

Thanks for posting! *hugs* It means a LOT!

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Re: Y'all might want to rethink the IQ thing.... new
      #240556 - 01/22/06 09:40 AM
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well.. I think your ideas are right on. In order to have a learning disability you must be of at least average intelligence which you are, so the diagnoses are probably right on. HOwever, its obvious you had many strengths as well bc you were so successful in school! Kids with LDs are more than able to get through school successfully, because they are able to gain knowledge and are generally very smart people.. they just need to find ways to learn that are different from the ways in which a child without LD's learn. Its sounds like you were able to successfully navigate finding success! WAY TO GO RUCHIE!

In general, kids with LD's can't learn in the ways in which the mainstream student can, and it sounds like you got the help you needed to learn ways around that and overcome it!

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Re: Y'all might want to rethink the IQ thing.... new
      #240557 - 01/22/06 09:49 AM
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Thanks Ashley...aka Dr. Spice!

It was SO HARD I cannot even begin to tell you! I spent my LIFE studying and didn't have a life! We didn't find out I had LD's until my senior year of high school so I struggled and no one knew why

In college I went to tutoring daily pretty much. I interviewed my proffs and let them know my situation up-front. If they didn't seem ok with it...or if they weren't willing to give me extensions on papers and extra help during their office hours...I found a proff who would. Sometimes I lost out on taking a class I really wanted to take because a proff wouldn't work with me...but in the end it was all for the good!

I had to be my own advocate. I had to be creative. And I spent more time workng than the Learning Assistance Center had ever seen a studnt work before. I wanted it THAT much! (AND I had untreated bipolar to boot!!)

I guess I should pat myself on the back? I never looked at this way until these boards. I succeeded!!! Hurray!

Thanks again Ashley! I'm finally starting to understand what I was up against and that I did it anyway!

Your job is SOOOOO important Ashley! Always remember that! There are SO many kids out there and you are helping them every day! Thanks for all you do for them...it means a lot to them, their parents, and to me

Sending you lots of love and gratitude again for all you do

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Re: Y'all might want to rethink the IQ thing.... new
      #240560 - 01/22/06 10:23 AM
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that's what I call perseverance and a can-do spirit. and believing you can do it, not istening to anyone else's crap!

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You, my dear, did an amazing thing! new
      #240562 - 01/22/06 10:29 AM
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learning disabilites are not a death sentence by far. But your "stick-to-it-iveness" is incredible and you should be terribly proud of yourself.
The way I explain it to people is that LD people have to put the information into their brains sideways, upside down, inside out...and that eventually if they keep trying diferent ways, they'll find one that works. In my experience with teaching LD kids(that's my special ed specialty)it's been amazing how I can re-explain things till finally, I get that little marshmallow into that teapot. And your teapot can hold however many marshmallows you choose!(this is how I explain children with cognitive delays...eventually,their teapot's marshmallowes get hard and they can't fit much more in, or it gets REALLLY HARD!)

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Ah, that's nice... new
      #240564 - 01/22/06 10:31 AM
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I think I might just start playing that tape. I'm working on it, relaly I am. I'm not even being hard on myself with my weight because my #1 priority this year is to get the perfectionism in check.

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      #240566 - 01/22/06 10:42 AM
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I can imagine how much you struggled, but now you can lay back, put your feet up, and thank god that you never need to take another class, or write another paper on deadline again if you dont' want to. phew.

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Re: awww thanks! new
      #240570 - 01/22/06 10:53 AM
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You earned it Ahsley! You have a difficult job and you're DOING IT!!! Hurray for you! *hugs*

Funny thing is I miss those papers. As hard as they were I got a LOT out of them in every aspect you can think of....can you believe I'm seriously considering an MLS? LOL First we have to get me well enough then who knows...

I enjoyed school because I learned so much AND because it was such hard work. It was a challenge for me in a way most people don't experience school to be. And it was FUN (I know I'm weird!!!!)



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Re: You, my dear, did an amazing thing! new
      #240571 - 01/22/06 10:57 AM
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Shannon in your anology are you saying that we take many explanations and much hard work before we "get" something? If not...please explain your analogy to me cause I'm missing the boat (or marshmallow)

Special ed proffs are HARD WORKING people and I love every one of you! I wish I'd had one all those years...but I'm thankful you're all out there so thank you for being you and doing what you do Shannon *many hugs*

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Re: Ah, that's nice... new
      #240572 - 01/22/06 11:03 AM
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I'm playing a new tape thanks to flylady.net a FREE site about Finally Loving Yourself (FLY) and it is helping me keep my perfectionism in check (can help you declutter your home and bod) just thought you might be interested. GOOD FOR YOU working on perfectionism 1st...hurray for the smart lady!

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Re: Ruch - Ashley is right on... new
      #240587 - 01/22/06 12:24 PM
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In order to meet the criteria for being LDisabled, you HAVE to have AT LEAST average intelligence. Which would be 100-110 or so. Many many LD kids are even brighter than that. If you got through school with a 3 - 4.0 GPA, I would guess your IQ would be a MINIMUM of 120 - 130. Correct me if I'm wrong, Dr. Spice.
I've done lots of IQ tests, too in special ed. To have 7 LD's and be that successful, that shows that you are VERY bright and VERY strong willed. You should be SOOOO proud of yourself.
There's no way you would have done so well with that much adversity if you weren't really really smart!
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Re: Ruch - Ashley is right on... new
      #240593 - 01/22/06 01:36 PM
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nope I agree Alicia. I regularly test kids with ADHD, Dyslexia, Developmental reading disabilities, and other learning disabilities with IQ's within the 120-130 range. Its true that most have between a 90-110 IQ, but many of the kids I work are even farther along than that! woohoo ruchie.. you rock and are an inspiration for other kids with LDs.

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      #240595 - 01/22/06 01:57 PM
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I don't have much to add, but eh, here's my two cents nonetheless! I have a small collection of kids' books of things I find quirky or just sweet.

I read a ton of the Bobsey Twins when I was in 2nd-4th grades. They were kinda below my level, so I read them fast. They were formulaic, but I guess I liked them well enough.

Coraline is indeed an excellent & creepy read. There's even an illustration that creeped me out so much I slammed the book shut! At first glance, I thought it was a spider, but it was actually just a spiky hand.

I can't believe no one's mentioned Patricia Palacco. I think that's the right name. She wrote the Keeping Quilt and a bunch of other books. Once in awhile, I have to read the Keeping Quilt out loud to kids, and I choke up near the end every time.

I've yet to read any Harry Potter, but I did read about 7 of the Lemony Snickets. Those are great, but they're also sorta training wheels for future goths! But then, there's nothing wrong with goth in my book.

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      #240612 - 01/22/06 03:16 PM
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I've never read her, but I used to shelve her books all of the time. I'll keep an eye out for "The Keeping Quilt".

What's so goth about Lemony Snickett's books? I love all of the sly literary references.

The Bobbsey Twins are yet another series that suffered from the Curse Of The Revisions. All these great kids' books that were written in the first half of the twentieth century underwent major overhauls beginning in the 1950s or so. Sure, they took out all of the racist stuff, but since they didn't stop there, most, if not all, of the books' original charm tends to be lost. The modern Bobbsey Twins in particular are really terrible. Applewood Press has begun to slowly reprint the original editions of some series, but I don't believe they're doing the Bobbsey Twins, at least not yet.

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Jen? Anyone? Maybe you can help me find this book... new
      #240613 - 01/22/06 03:25 PM
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Do you know the title of a book about a little boy who goes to live with his grandparents for a summer? I've been trying to find this book for years, but I can't remember the title or author. Here's what I remember:

--The boy wants to learn how to swim. He collects corks to make a flotation device.
--He befriends a smelly hermit who has a goat and makes goat cheese.
--His grandparents or the hermit tell him stories; one story is about a man who gives his fiance a ring which makes her cold. It turns out the ring is a crown to an evil witch/snake.
--I think the boy's name is Pip?

Thanks for your help!

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Lemony Snickett and the Bobbsey Twins new
      #240633 - 01/22/06 04:14 PM
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Quote:

What's so goth about Lemony Snickett's books? I love all of the sly literary references.




Actually, I wouldn't call them goth so much as just dark. Forcing a minor into marriage by threatening infanticide sort of leaps out at me - and I've only read the first book.

I liked the Bobbsey Twins, too, and have some old ones on my shelves. My 12th grade Biology teacher used them in genetics: it's pretty unlikely that the same set of parents will produce two children who are tall, dark, and lean (Nan and Bert) and two children who are short, blonde, and plump (Freddie and Flossie). They're also very useful if you do crossword puzzles - Nan and Bert come up fairly frequently.

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Re: Jen? Anyone? Maybe you can help me find this book... new
      #240641 - 01/22/06 04:51 PM
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Sorry, Maria -- it doesn't sound familiar, so my guess is that I've never read it. It does sound interesting.

If there's a book that's driving you nuts because you can't quite remember the author/title even though you remember pivotal details, then you need to visit Loganberry Books. Well, not literally, but their website has a "Stump the Bookseller" section -- for $2 you can give whatever fuzzy details you remember and see if anyone out there remembers it. I am generally very very good about remembering books, but there's a handful that have continued to elude me, and I finally broke down and asked about one -- they found it!!! In fact, if you check in the index under "Tibor Gergely's Great Big Book of Bedtime Stories", you can see my original ditsy query with a really vague clue about a whale and an aquarium.

If you decide to do this, the details you've given below are very good, but I would also mention whether it is a picture book vs. chapter book. If you remember, I'd also put down the vintage of the book, whic helps a lot. If you don't remember that, at least put down the last time you remembered reading it -- if you haven't read it since 1990, that knocks out a lot of potential books.

When I have kids, I am keeping their childhood books!! My mom relentlessly threw ours out except for some that my sister had stashed away.

Anyway, good luck on finding it!!

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      #240644 - 01/22/06 05:08 PM
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I've just been looking through the "Solved Mysteries" at Loganberry Books. Wow! It's reminding me of even more books I enjoyed reading as a child.

Definitely keep your children's books! I still have a lot of mine, including a lot of Archie comics.

Unfortunately, the book I'm looking for was from my elementary school library. Maybe I should go there and see if they still have it, but with my luck they've probably discarded it by now.

Thanks again for the link and help!

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The "goth" bit was meant tongue in cheek. I like the literary references, too. In a way, it reminds me of Looney Toons. I remember as kid, not getting the references, but knowing it was supposed to be funny. And most of those cartoons are even funnier now as an adult.

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      #240648 - 01/22/06 05:30 PM
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That's incredible! What a fab idea! Thanks for sharing Jen...

So what are some that stump you? I doubt I can help but I'll try...

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      #240650 - 01/22/06 05:34 PM
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I did a search at Loganberry's and was browsing when I came across this book: The Hill House by Ragnhild Chevalier Williams. I believe that's the book I've been looking for! It's out of print, but a bookstore I used to go to often, very close to where I live, IS SELLING IT. So, I'll have to see if it's the one!

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      #240657 - 01/22/06 06:22 PM
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When i refer to the lower IQ people who struggle to learn and will never really get to the point of a regular person... they have a "cup"(brain) in which to fill 'marshmallows" (information)...well, we all do. But for those with lower capabilities, hey can only fit so many marshmallows on before the blow the lid and can't fit more in without painstaking work. With an LD, there's no limit to how many marshmallows that fit in that teapot, but they have to go in different wasys than "normal" peoples marshmallows do. And yeah, sometimes it's repetition, sometimes I find dancing or hopping or clapping the spelling of a word helps kids. Sometimes they have to hold your hand and trace the letter over and over for the brain connection to see that, Oh! This is a G.But once it's there,y ou HAVE it.

People with lower brain functioning sometimes get it one day and it's GONE the next. That was the most trying part of my last four months. I had a fourth grader who was fourth grade level at math, and barely kindergarten with his reading. And it would NOT go in. Luckily, with LDs, it will eventually get in there!


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but now I'll have to go back and REALLY check her out. I thought she just ad housecleaning tips, LOL!

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      #240669 - 01/22/06 08:04 PM
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I am pretty sure Sherlock Holems is under the category of mystery...so what would be an example of a who-done-it?

And what category does Lemony Snicket fall into?

I'm actually aching to read mystery and who-done-it thanks to Harry Potter, can you believe it? LOL

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      #240671 - 01/22/06 08:13 PM
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Ruchie, are you looking for adult mysteries or still children's books? I've read a lot of adult mysteries, but children's mysteries I'm pretty much limited to Nancy Drew and Kay Tracey.

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      #240682 - 01/22/06 09:45 PM
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John Bellairs' books? The Johnny Dixon mysteries, The Letter, the Witch, and the Ring (Louis Barnavelt mysteries). These are great books: great character development, well-developed plots, clever mysteries, just enough creepiness to keep you reading, and most of his books are illustrated by the fabulous Edward Gorey!







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      #240831 - 01/23/06 11:55 AM
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I'd never heard of Bellairs, but I did some poking around and his stuff looks really interesting. And I love Gorey! Thanks, Maria.

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      #240882 - 01/23/06 02:55 PM
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This makes perfect sense!!!

If I can ever tell you things I did to make it go in...I'd be happy to share. Reading was like this for me as well as math.

I had a terrible time with reading com. to the point the LD head at my college didn't think I should major in English Lit and encouraged me to do performing arts instead.

But I stuck it out! And I would love to help someone else with my struggles in any way I can. You have my e-mail addy...write me re. this any time!

And thank G-D for people like you Shannon!!! Clapping your way to top!!!!

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      #240883 - 01/23/06 03:00 PM
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In the original post I wrote that I was looking for children's books but adult books as well. Sorry if I confused you?

Thanks for all your input btw! You've posted for me quite a bit and I apprecite it *hugs*

Who are your all-time fav authors...children's or otherwise? You sound like you like to read a lot...I would love your opinions. Thanks *hugs*

Love ya,

Ruch

P.S. If you already posted them in this thread..I must've missed it! LOL This post is the size of a jaberwoc! And I'm proud to be a part of such a well-read group of people (just makes it tough to find things when you look for them! )

Speaking of finding things...I liked your index card idea. I've been taking a notebook size piece of paper to the library every time I go with several books to find. Too bad we don't have any index card...would have been worth the investemtn!! You're a smart lady

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      #240885 - 01/23/06 03:04 PM
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These books sound like FUN!! Are they...am I right on?

Are those illusrations from these books/ Whatever the case...I like them loads!

I wish i'd jotted these down when I went to the library today. I'm afraid this was likely my last trip as I go in for a pre-OP tom. am and then Wed I have therapy and of course there's loads of cooking to be done before I go under on Thur.

But I have SO many books to look forward to *happy dances*

Thank Maria *hugs* I'm gonna HAVE to check these out for sure

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Glad to hear you're a Gorey fan as well. Have you read Ascending Peculiarities (a collection of his interviews)? What he had to say was as intriguing as his illustrations. I was delighted to read he enjoyed watching Buffy and Dallas! Just goes to show you there's no point in being a snob about a particular medium and that avoiding popular culture doesn't necessarily make you a better artist or person.

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      #240891 - 01/23/06 03:11 PM
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The illustrations aren't from the books (although I believe the clock one is), but they're drawings done by Edward Gorey, who wrote his own books as well as illustrating John Bellairs'.

Are you overwhelmed with all the recommendations?

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any strategies I can add to my bag o tricks, is more to help the great wonderful adults of the fututre.

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      #241039 - 01/24/06 08:22 AM
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These illustrations seriously ROCK! ! ! !

I am def. overwhelmed with all the recommendations...but in a good way. It is keeping my mind off the upcoming surgery (2 days now ) so I cannot thank you all enough...so keep thinking/posting!

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      #241041 - 01/24/06 08:27 AM
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The most import thing for me was learning to be my own advocate.

Things I did that were helpful:

I learned to memorize something before trying to understand it.

I used flash cards like mad. I took notes in class and THEN transferred what I learned onto notecards. And then memorized from there often.

I'm betting you already know about the memorizing part? I'll keep thinking of other things I did...

How old are the kids you work with? Are they elementary age (it sounded that way from an earlier post)? If they have processing input/output probs...making it into a song and having them learn it is good. If they are into baseball...or whatever...fit it in somehow. I can be more specific if it helps.

I'd love to hear what you're already doing. This truly fascinates me!

Hope you're having a super day today *hugs*

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      #241073 - 01/24/06 09:05 AM
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Yes, I work with young guys-grades kindy to six.

The memorization stuff is really interesting-never heard it,but it makes sense! Unless you have an LD with memory issues, LOL!


I do like the sensory stuff-getting your body involved when your brain is working. i also feelthat kids with ADHD should be allowed to wiggle when they're learning because it keeps their minds active. I do games like throwing/catching a ball when memorizing. worked super well with a kid I tutored in french.

Can you email me?? I know I ahve your addy around but can't recall off the top of my head. Short term memory in me SUCKS, but I can still remembe my home from the age of two.

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      #241136 - 01/24/06 12:15 PM
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Just remember, you asked for it! Telling me to suggest books is like telling an alcoholic to suggest bars. And, hey, thanks for the kind words in your post. I was having kind of a bad day yesterday and you really cheered me up. In addition to all your other virtues, you're very sweet, Ruchie. I appreciate that a lot, mostly because I'm not.

Okay, here we go. I know you said in an earlier post that you don't read "racy" books, so I've tried to indicate when one of these might be a bit much for you. Some of them I read so long ago, I simply don't remember.

(Once I got this written, I realized a lot of the books I was suggesting were somewhat dark. So I marked the fun/funny ones in red.)

Books that I find healing

Little Women by Louisa May Alcott - The family most of us wish we had.

The Secret Garden by Frances Hodgson Burnett - This book is about healing: physical, emotional, and spiritual. Plus it's a really nice read. The Tasha Tudor illustrations are the best.

In This House of Brede by Rumer Godden - The story of an enclosed order of Bendictine nuns. I'm always awestruck by people who truly live their religion, day in and day out, in all things large and small.

Three great books and one great trilogy

The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. LeGuin - The best scifi novel I've ever read and the first scifi novel to win both the Hugo and Nebula awards. A human envoy visits a planet where the inhabitants are also human - except they are both male and female in one. Issues of sexual identity permeate the book, but I don't remember it as being sexually explicit.

Shape of Snakes by Minette Walters - A very good mystery writer has written an extraordinary novel. A seemingly average wife and mother is determined to discover what really happened to her young neighbor 20 years earlier. Un-put-down-able. After I read this, everyone on my gift list got this book.

Dooms Day Book by Connie Willis - I include this a little hesitantly because I only read it 3 months ago and it's too soon to tell if it will resonate like the others in this list. Nonetheless, it's an amazing book: mesmerizing, heart-breaking, and yet somehow hopeful. It's classified as science fiction because it involves time-travel, but as one of the reader reviews at B&N says, "if this were not pigeon-holed as 'science fiction' it would be acknowledged as one of the best novels of the later 20th century". A young woman travels back in time to do research in the Middle Ages. Things go awry and she finds herself in the right place at the wrong time - literally.

The Merlin Trilogy by Mary Stewart - This consists of The Crystal Cave, The Hollow Hills, and The Last Enchantment. This is historical fantasy and it's one of those novelizations of past events that you read and go, "Oh, okay, this is really how it happened." In addition to being a great story, the prose is beatiful, almost crystalline. (B&N is now calling these three books "The Arthurian Saga", but this is Merlin's story.) Oh, and skip the fourth book.

Historical Novels

Autobiography of Henry VIII and Memoirs of Cleopatra both by Margaret George - Two cracking good reads. Written in the "first person", they're totally convincing. Again, historical fiction that convinces you you're reading historical truth.

Traveler by Richard Adams - The autobiography of Robert E. Lee's horse. A very good read, very touching.

The Firebrand by Marion Zimmer Bradley - The story of Kassandra (Cassandra) of Troy. Another "this is the way it was" book.

Gates of Fire by Stephen Pressfield - The Spartans' stand at the Battle of Thermopylae where 300 Spartans held hundreds of thousands of Persians for 6 days. This one is somewhat sexual and incredibly violent.

Mysteries

First, a Website: www.stopyourekillingme.com. Want to find all the books in a series? Know a character's name but can't remember the author? Just want to browse through mysteries? This is your Website.

Almost anything by Agatha Christie - The big ones are: Death on the Nile, Murder on the Orient Express, and The Murder of Roger Ackroyd (a must read). Some of my personal favorites include: Murder In Retrospect, The Tuesday Club Murders (Miss Marple short stories), Cards on the Table, Murder in Mesopotamia, The Murder at the Vicarage, etc., etc., etc. Oddly enough, I don't like her Tuppence & Tommy Beresford mysteries - luckily she didn't write many of those.

Firestorm and Blind Descent both by Nevada Barr - These are part of the Anna Pigeon series. Anna is a National Parks Ranger and the various books take place in various parks. I'm usually meticulous about reading series in order, but I think these two books stand head and shoulders above the others in the series.

One For The Money by Janet Evanovich - This is the first in a series featuring Stephanie Plum, a Trenton, New Jersey, bounty hunter with big hair, a big mouth, and not one, but two hunky men in her life. It's hysterically funny, but may well be too sexy for your tastes.

Straight, Decider, Banker, Hot Money, and Reflex all by Dick Francis - Most of Francis' novels are good, but these are my favorites. I think his later ones are less readable and I did not like his Sid Halley novels. All the ones I listed and almost all of his other novels have to do with horse-racing in one form or another. Incredibly clean writing style and remarkable protagonists. I also find his books excellent on audio which is unusual for me.

The Mrs. Pollifax mysteries by Dorothy Gilman - There are a zillion of these. They start off being fun and get darker as the series goes on. It seems a lot of series do that - I wonder why? Mrs. Pollifax is an elderly widow who gets bored with life and decides to go to work for the CIA.

A Nun in the Closet and Tightrope Walker by Dorothy Gilman - It's hard to imagine two more different mysteries. A Nun in the Closet is laugh out loud funny, while Tightrope Walker is about doing the right thing and discovering yourself along the way.

The Spenser series by Robert B. Parker - The archetypal tough-guy PI. The series starts with The Godwulf Manuscript and now totals more than 30 books. This series is better read in order. Parker also writes the Jesse Stone series and the Sunny Randall series. If you like Spenser, you'll like those series, too. People in his books have sex, but there are no mechanics; you know, like, his hand goes there, her hand goes here. It's just "we went into the bedroom then later..."

The Kinsey Millhone series by Sue Grafton - The archetypal tough-gal PI. The series starts with A Is For Alibi and is now up to S Is For Silence. Very good, very highly recommended. There is sex is some of the books, but nothing I would consider particularly steamy. Well, except for that scene on the spiral staircase.

The Peter Shandy series by Charlotte MacLeod - This series starts with Rest You Merry which is sadly out of print, but definitely worth looking for. Funny and fun, I cannot recommend this series highly enough if you're just looking to enjoy your reading. Peter is a professor at an agricultural college in Balaclava County, Massachusetts. His wife, Helen, is the librarian.

The Amelia Peabody series by Elizabeth Peters - Very funny. Amelia is a Victorian archaeologist - with definite opinions on everything - working in Egypt around 1900. This series should definitely be read in order, starting with The Crocodile on the Sandbank.

The Jacqueline Kirby series by Elizabeth Peters - Jacqueline is a librarian turned romance novelist. I want to be her when I grow up. There are only four of these books which is a shame - they're fun and each one is better than the one before. The series consists of with Seventh Sinner, The Murders of Richard III, Die For Love, and Naked Once More. No, not racy at all.

Summer of the Dragon by Elizabeth Peters - A stand-alone novel that's a lot of fun. Almost all Elizabeth Peter's mysteries are enjoyable.

The Daughter of Time by Josephine Tey - A modern detective with time on his hands tries to determine what really happened to Richard III's 2 little nephews. A wonderful read.

Odds and Ends

Incident at Badamaya by Dorothy Gilman - An odd little book about a group of people trying to get out of 1950s Burma. Mystical.

Range of Motion by Elizabeth Berg - A young woman's husband falls into a coma. She struggles to bring him out of it. A very, very , very good book.


I could go on and on and on here, but I think that's enough to start with. If you want more, just ask.


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      #241140 - 01/24/06 12:19 PM
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Glad to hear you're a Gorey fan as well. Have you read Ascending Peculiarities (a collection of his interviews)? What he had to say was as intriguing as his illustrations. I was delighted to read he enjoyed watching Buffy and Dallas! Just goes to show you there's no point in being a snob about a particular medium and that avoiding popular culture doesn't necessarily make you a better artist or person.




No, I haven't read Ascending Peculiarities - I just checked and my library doesn't have it. I do, however, have a bookstore gift card from Christmas burning a hole in my pocket, so, hmmm, that will have to go on the list.

And, hey, Dallas may be popular culture, but Buffy is art - and Joss Whedon is a genius!

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      #241204 - 01/24/06 01:05 PM
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More is best here!!!

I'm learning SO MUCH about books here just by reading these posts. Some of this stuff is familair to me as an English major...and as an annoyingly read-at-the-table reader here....however I am a slow reader and don't read as much quantity as I'd prefer. So now I get to see what's out there that I'd like to read (and get to be picky about it since I don't get to read too fast) with some idea of what I'm getting into thanks to you and all the folks in this thread! I love the way you summarize the books in a couple of sentences or more letting me get just enough osf a taste without giving anything anyway

I meant what I said Sand. You're a keeper and I'm thankful to have you on these boards *hugs*

How are you doing these days btw?

Thanks again for keeping my mind on literature and off of the fear of my impending surgery on Thur...I owe ya tons *hugs*

With love to my friend,

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      #241208 - 01/24/06 01:07 PM
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They didn't have Little Women at the library. I was so sad! It truly is a classic to me. :-)

The Secret Garden! *loads of smiles* What a great book/movie/Broadway show!

Agathat Christy! I'd forgotten...we read her in college. Can we say WOWOWOW! I can't recall the name of what we read but I was definately blown away!

Thanks again Sand for all your picks :-)

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Ruchie, have you read any Marion Zimmer Bradley? You will love her work. Check out "The Mists of Avalon" or "The Firebrand." Also, "The Lefthand of Darkness" by Ursula le Guin is phenomenal!

Have you read "The Dragon Riders of Pern" by Anne McCaffrey, yet? Another outstanding SF series. Also, check out "Blood Music" by Greg Bear.

Have you read "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest?" It's a great book.

Have fun reading.

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      #241372 - 01/25/06 06:43 AM
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thanks for asking. My bad day was just a bad day, thank goodness, not a bad week.

I can't believe your library didn't have Little Women. That should be illegal. Are girls today going to grow up without knowing who Meg, Jo, Beth, and Amy are? Without knowing Marmee? That's not right!

Quantity isn't the only way to go. I read incredibly fast - which I enjoy - but I know I don't get as much out of my books as someone like my husband who reads more slowly and really thinks about what he's reading. I read an article (maybe Reader's Digest) years and years ago about a man who was a prisoner of war in World War II. He had one book and one book only and he talked about how he read it as slowly as he could to make it last. He said he got a whole new perspective on the book when he read it a little bit at a time and then thought about what he had read before reading more.

I'm glad to be on the Boards and glad you're around, too.

All the best on Thursday, Ruchie. I'll be thinking of you.

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But, I will have to say, I find a lot of them to be VERY creepy. So, Ruchie, if you're a little put-off by that, you might want to just start out with one book to see if you like it. I was racking my brain trying to think of ones that weren't quite as creepy, but off the top of my head I'm not too sure.

I love Edward Gorey's illustrations! We are remodeling our house and sometimes I think that I should skip the fuss and muss of paint and just cover the walls in awesome book illustrations. I have a thing for book covers. I think my favorites are the older Prydain Chronicles covers -- the ones that were white at the top and bottom and had a very medieval illustration wrapped round the rest. I only have one of them, alas. B&N used to have them in print ages ago but I haven't checked in years.

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      #242358 - 01/28/06 01:04 PM
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I love that website! I must've spent two straight weekends reading through all of the stumpers. God, I'm pathetic.

If that book wasn't the one, you have quite a bit of information about the book, and I bet you could get it answered if you decided to ask a question. Let me know!

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      #242368 - 01/28/06 01:36 PM
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Hey, I wouldn't recommend reading Evanovich if you don't like racy books -- hers have sex, violence, and incredibly vulgar language. On the plus side, they ARE funny. They really start to spiral downhill as the series goes on, though. The last 4 or so have been pretty bad, though still funny in spots. And you can tell that she reads WAY too much Junie B. Jones.

Elizabeth Peters is awesome! I love her books. My favorite series is Vicky Bliss, though Jacqueline Kirby is a close second (I totally agree about wanting to be her when I grow up). If you've ever been addicted to romance novels, "Die For Love" is a must-read. My favorite book period by her is probably "The Camelot Caper". It's an earlier one (you can tell because the heroine puts on driving gloves) -- it's pretty innocuous, very fun, cute romance. Second-favorite is "Silhouette in Scarlet" (which is one of the Vicky Bliss mysteries). There is one bit in there that cracks me up every time, where one of the villainous thugs becomes shocked when he realizes that the heroine is cheating at Scrabble.

Elizabeth Peters also writes under Barbara Michaels. I like these books as well -- they are Gothics, though, not typical mysteries the way the EP books are. The best Barbara Michaels stuff was written in the 80s and 90s. In the last several years she's pretty much only written Amelia Peabody mysteries. I haven't kept up on them, I think the series kinda went downhill beginning when Nefret entered the picture.

What's funny is that I LOVE Charlotte Macleod, but I never read the Peter Shandy series because I thought they were boring. I did read (and love) the Sarah Kelling and Max Bittersohn mysteries. I've started buying the Peter Shandy books when I see them and plan on giving them another go.

I also love "Daughter of Time", but anything Josephine Tey writes tends to be good. I also really like "Brat Farrar".

Also concur about Mary Stewart -- she is great, though I haven't read the Merlin trilogy yet because I only have two of the books. Her standalone Gothics/mysteries are good.

Someone recommended "Nun in a Closet" to me, but I still haven't found a copy. (I VERY rarely buy new books, by the way, so I am generally limited to what I can find in used bookstores, thrift shops, and library book sales.)

When I'm in my mystery phase (and I haven't been for ages), I always liked Nancy Pickard, K.K. Beck, Margaret Maron, M.C. Beaton (who wrote a zillion romances under the names Marion Chesney, Helen Crampton, Ann Fairfax, and Jennie Tremaine -- I own nearly all of them and I love every single silly formulaic one of them) ("Molly" by Jennie Tremaine is like one of my favorite books ever), Dorothy Sayers, Ellis Peters, Karen Kijewski, Ruth Rendell, Sharyn McCrumb (Elizabeth MacPherson mysteries), Dianne Day, Dorothy Cannell, and Mollie Hardwick (Doran Fairweather books). Also love Rumpole but forget now who writes them. John Mortimer? Oh, and G.K. Chesterton's stuff is GREAT.

My FAVORITE SERIES EVER is a sf series by Lois McMaster Bujold about Miles Vorkosigan. I LOVE HIM. I would so marry him. If he were real. I'm not sure you'd like them, Ruchie -- they are pretty raw. Not sexually (there's some sex, but not much), but lots of violence, mind stuff, and one book (Mirror Dance) has a LOT of heavy-duty sick torture stuff.

Sand -- that's true about series getting darker. I think it's because the more you write, the more you get a sort of uneasy feeling that you ought to be tackling Serious Dramatic Happenings, instead of just witty musings on, um, like, the thread count of towels or whatever.

Wow, this thread is totally long. Maybe it needs a fresh start or something. Or maybe we all need to keep quiet about books. I think I am using too many capital letters.

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Re: Children's books and authors........ new
      #242372 - 01/28/06 01:44 PM
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That's great of you. For several years I ran the children's department at Barnes and Noble and grew to love so many of the books there. I have a few favorites that I treasure above all others. The Wind in the Willows, Where the Red Fern Grows, and The View from Saturday. I've read hundreds of children's books (I had to know what books were about to help customers find them without titles or authors) and these three are, in my opinion, the best I ever read. Of course there are so many wonderful books to choose from but I highly recommend these.

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Re: I LOVE John Bellairs!!!! new
      #242444 - 01/28/06 07:55 PM
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But, I will have to say, I find a lot of them to be VERY creepy. So, Ruchie, if you're a little put-off by that, you might want to just start out with one book to see if you like it. I was racking my brain trying to think of ones that weren't quite as creepy, but off the top of my head I'm not too sure. I can't think of any that aren't creepy, either...

I love Edward Gorey's illustrations! We are remodeling our house and sometimes I think that I should skip the fuss and muss of paint and just cover the walls in awesome book illustrations. This is an excellent idea! Someday when I have a house, I'll have to do this to one of the rooms.




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      #242447 - 01/28/06 07:58 PM
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I'm pretty sure it's the one, but I haven't gone down to the bookstore to check it out. I'll definitely ask for help if it turns out to be the wrong book. Thanks! Actually, I might put in an interlibrary loan request so I don't have to buy it.

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