seriously considering leaving my job!
#238078 - 01/12/06 04:45 PM
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hawkeye
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This is on my mind constantly and I thought I'd post to see if any of you had feedback. Its kind of long, and hopefully not too whiney. Thanks in advance for listening!
I've been a teacher for 10 years now (1-8th grade music) and I'm coming face to face with a few things that I can't ignore anymore:
1. As much as I feel good at what I do (and grateful to have a job where I can help others), I never felt it was good for me. Teaching kids has always stressed me out so much, even on a good day, I go home wound up, short of breath, and exhausted.
2. If I were to work from home at least part of the time, it would better suit me - I'm a great homebody and enjoy working at home, and also hopefully would lower my stress and therefore my ibs.
3. I hated school all my life, and the same things that bothered me as a kid, bother me more as an adult! The insistance on uniformity, the compartmentalized learning, I could go on but I won't here!
4. I need to feel I'm being more creative in my work.
5. I'm tired of being tired every day.
6. I need to be in a job where I feel I'm helping people but it would be great if it was something more flexible, and where I was working one on one or in small groups.
I'm a little hesitant to post this since I know at least one of you is looking for a teaching job and thats what I'm complaining about having! I'm not ungrateful for what I have. I try, even now as I'm thinking about leaving, to work very hard and to be thankful for having a good job. On the other hand, I feel like not listening to my body and not listening to what I'm learnign about how I function best.
I may not leave, I have a baby girl, and can't afford to just quit and figure it out. I'll have to work hard to line up other work before I can make the decision.
I'm actually finishing up a training in Feldenkrais method, I'll be a certified practitioner this spring. But as its not something that many ppeople have even heard of, I will probably build a practice over several years. In the meantime, I am thinking of: some combination of a few things such as teaching part time, and private music lessons. Opening up a web-business (very risky I know), opening up my own music school, doing school performances with some friends (this pays surprisingly well but isn't exactly working from home)
Any ideas? Get rich quick schemes? (this reminds me, there's a teacher in my school who last year was trying to get many of us to join a pyramid scheme she was a part of!)
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Hey, I completely understand! I left a job teaching English at a small college in town because I couldn't deal with the stress on my stomach. I just was so exhausted all the time, and it was taking way too much out of me.
Don't judge yourself by others' standards! You have to do what's best for yourself in the end! Only you know if you've had enough.
There's always professional gambling. Or selling yourself in bits for medical research. How about alpaca farming? 
~nelly~ 
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well I certainly wouldn't have much competition around here on that one!
Thanks for the idea, but I won't be mentioning that one to my wife when she worries about $ for next year!
Dan
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Whoa!
#238099 - 01/12/06 05:45 PM
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Well, Hawkeye, I'm speaking from experience, having worked steadily, non-stop, full-time, for 40 years, finally retiring 5 years ago.
All my office jobs were stressful, every damn one. Each time I went on to the next job, I was sure it would cause me less stress on myself. Silly me. That was NEVER the case. I was ALWAYS tired, ALWAYS bringing the job home, constantly worrying about every piece of paper that had crossed my desk that day. It's just a part of working.
My IBS "hit" me in 1980, after I had worked for 20 years. Each job after that was "less stressful" (I thought), until I couldn't take it any more and finally retired.
It was THEN that my IBS got outta control -- AFTER I retired and was supposedly financially secure. Come to find out, my stress had absolutely nothing to do with the work environment, but everything to do with the pressures I put on MYSELF.
Working out of your home is not as stress-free as one would like to believe. You have the constant concern of "bringing in the money," ultimately ending up putting in more time on the computer than you ever did in your old job. When I retired, I worked out of my home initially, so I know what I'm talking about.
Are you sure you aren't unhappy with your job for some other reason than what you've stated? The last job I had was very much "beneath" me. My employer told me so; in fact, he didn't want to hire me because of it. I assured him I wanted that job because I knew I COULD handle it well and thus be stress-free. Well, it turned out my boss was right; I was bored silly. I would have hated that job had it not been for one thing: I had a little talk with myself. I sat down and said to myself, "Self, you can either be bored at this job and hate it, OR you can make the most of it by being THE BEST that Max ever hired." And that's what I did. I made myself invaluable, or so I would like to believe, becoming the BEST at that job than anyone he'd ever had, and in the end, when I left, it was very satisfying to look back and know that I ended my career extremely successfully.
What you are doing -- molding the minds of young children -- is very important; just knowing what you are doing for them has to be satisfying, certainly far more so than what I did in the law office.
I believe so many of our jobs are what we make of them; it's up to us.
I hope you can find a way of seeing an enrichment in your teaching. It's a very admirable profession and one you should be proud of.
Bevvy
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Re: Whoa!
#238102 - 01/12/06 06:02 PM
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hawkeye
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Yes, all of what you said is part of what I wonder about. And yes I certainly do value teaching as a profession. So far in the years I've been out of college, my best times ibs-wise were the 2 years I worked p/t as a teacher and p/t tutoring.
One option would certainly be to just learn to appreciate what I have, because its not in any way a bad job. One would be a job nearer to home (I have an hour commute on the subway) and hopefully at a school whose philosphy I agreed with more. My school is very traditional and religious, I am neither. Or I may still figure out a new way to earn money, I'll see. Thanks for your comments I'm still in the brainstorming phase about this and really appreciate hearing people's views.
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You know as well as I do that a burned out teacher is not doing any good for the students. A music teacher has one of the hardest jobs in the world!I truly believe that. And I know so many stress out music teachers that....just need a sabbatical!
But if you are not philosophically on that page, then you DO need to leave! It's all about heart, not curriculum, right? 
Definitely don't leave cold, of course, but if you have a piano at home(as if you don't!!) then why not do privte lessons? I'm sure you could charge a pretty penny! And you could do a kindermusic thing too, where I'm sure you could host 5 kids a time 5 days a week-sure,t ere'd be prep too but it'd be good and you could be with your little baby!!
just from one pedagog on the way in to one who needs a break from the mundane!
Good luck, I know it must be a tough feeling.
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Hey, You're the one I was afraid would read my post!!! I felt lame posting a complaint about my teaching job when I know you're dying for one!
Thanks for your kind reply. Its true that while I don' thave to do as much homework as classroom teachers in terms of grading, my teaching is really energy and planning intensive. I don't have the down time that classroom teachers have, when the class is reading, taking a test, watching a video, etc. I'm ALWAYS front and center leading the class. Also there's no text book to follow, I create my curriculum. Its definitely hard on bad ibs days or more often days after hard ibs nights.
Anyway thanks for your reply. I may simply go over to private lessons like you suggest. I make $60 an hour with kids (considered a bargain around here i'm told!) and at the moment turn away students because i just can't take on anymore work. So I think i could pretty easily make the same as what I earn teaching.
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I feel your pain. I have been teaching for six years, and I love my job, but it definitely stresses me out. Just yesterday, though, I was sitting in a car with a bunch of my coworkers, and I realized that it stresses ALL of us out. For better or worse, it's the nature of the beast.
I also agree with what Bev said, though. I put pressure on myself to excel, so I could probably find a way to stress myself out working any job imaginable! If you have that personality, you will probably still feel stressed.
Still, I totally sympathize. I'm in a place of realizing how bad my profession has been for my health, but I also realize that I need to make more time for balance. It's really a goal of mine this year.
Good luck, whatever you decide.
Oh, and I totally agree with you that being "on" all the time is exhausting, but so is grading papers! 
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I'm subbing a ton, and my big break will happen very soon, I can feel it.
And either way, i know I'll be in it for life. heck, if I loved my special ed class, and they are just as intensive as music teaching(aka no such thing as independent study!) then I know I'm meant for the classroom.
and you're not whining. Other than it being teaching, it is a whole different world. I've subbed music. it is draining, esp when you create your own curric, and decide who plays what on the recorder...And hello! You LISTEN to recorder all day!LOL!
Private ounds way better for you. you'll get the money, and get to be that wounded artist like I know all musicians are(wink wink) I played violon for a few years...and you get that privacy that really, public musicians don't get!(Ok, now I'm sort of poking fun, you're not Kurt cobain) But really, when you have music going through your head every day, why not narrow it down to a beautiful melodious instrument that you can totally not destroy by blowing too hard?
Just thoughts for you. Hugs and best of luck.
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Jeepers huh? Well, thanks for the support! You're right it is tough AND you're right that there are other teaching jobs just as hard. Its looking more and more attractive to teach privately - actually it sounds REALLY great! And yes I'd have more time to practice, and hopefully not be a 'tortured' artist, but also not be TORTURED by recorders. Still, a steady pay check and baby are a good combination, so I have to have a good plan before I take the plunge. I'll keep mulling it over - its what I do best!
Dan
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Hey, man. I think you've got it better than you might think. You're a music teacher, and you should be the most creative guy in the whole school.
When I was a kid I hated music class because we had to play squeaky plastic-flutes (i.e. the aforementioned 'recorders') and had recordings of classical music squeaking out of a dilapidated speaker cabinet. As a side note, there was a jar of disinfectant (formaldehyde I believe) and students who did not bring their recorders were force to play on one from the jar. Yeh, I made sure I never forgot mine. 
If you really want to quit, I think you should give it one more year and make music the most enjoyable class that these kids have ever attended. You may need to say to heck with the curriculum, and you might get terminated, but I guarantee you'd walk out of there with your head held high!! If you encourage your students to think freely, then you will no longer need to worry about points 3, 4, 5, and 6 (quoted below). The last thing I ever wanted to do in music class was play an instrument, but now I play guitar every day -- I only wish I had been encouraged to play it as a child -- and I don't mean 'Turkey in the Straw' or 'Buffalo Girls' or something like that, I mean something COOL!
Heck I'm not even a kid, but I'd sure be interested in discussing:
- How music has progressed over the years (e.g. where did rap music originate? Was Elvis _really_ the king of rock n' roll?)
- How does music influence popular culture (e.g. Woodstock, gangstaz)
- What is it about classical music that will make it appreciated for centuries to come?
- Do chirping birds have any patterns in their tunes?
I think you can have a lot of fun just by incorporating some of this free thought into your class!
Best luck,
EvilCats
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3. I hated school all my life, and the same things that bothered me as a kid, bother me more as an adult! The insistance on uniformity, the compartmentalized learning, I could go on but I won't here!
4. I need to feel I'm being more creative in my work.
5. I'm tired of being tired every day.
6. I need to be in a job where I feel I'm helping people but it would be great if it was something more flexible, and where I was working one on one or in small groups.
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*tearing up* HAHAHAHAhahahaa ha haa
I will now have that song played by squeeky recorders in my head all day..!
~nelly~
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I can't say that I blame you. I hated school as a kid, myself so I knew that teaching was not for me.
Music has always been a part of our family, too. My mother is a violinist and I have been playing the flute since I was about, what.....10 years old?
My mother taught orchestra for about 10 years, too (1-8), and decided that she didn't want to be involved in the school system anymore because she was not appreciated, at all.
She had to travel all day long between about 3-4 schools and was always pushed around by the other teachers and principle because she was only the "music teacher".
I cannot believe the amount of stress the school system put her under. They always complained because their students JUST HAAAAAAAD to take an hour from the "routine curriculum" to go "goof off in music class". Oh, It really burns me up just to think about it.
You know, I saw on the news where they are claiming that Music can actually "prevent alzheimers" because it fires more neurotransmitters in the brain than most every other activity in this world, yet, no teacher approves of music because it's not math or science!! They claim that it's "goofing off".
Anyway, I think I understand some of your frustrations. My mother ended up on Prozac for a while becuase of these other teachers and principles stressing her out and they always made her feel like she wasn't worthy.
She ended up doing private lessons at home and she loves it. She's doing very well. So, I think that would be a great idea.
I think you should DEFINITELY get out of the school system, too, if they are treating you ANYTHING like they treated my mother. She doesn't even have IBS and was sick alot. It cannot be good on your IBS.
Take Care and Good Luck!
Michelle
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I taught grade 7 - 13 music. And I hear you. It's not the teaching and the music that's the problem. It's everything else. The behaviour of kids, the politics, the cutbacks, having a ZERO budget, the marking, the stress, I could go on and on.
I am currently taking time to raise my kids (2 and 4). Once my youngest gets into school, I'll consider something else.
One thing I was looking into is Music for Young Children. It looks really neat. You don't even need a studio - you can run it from your own home. I've talked to parents whose kids are in it and just love it.
I also like the idea of private teaching, but unfortunately, it's during the time when the kids are home - evenings and weekends.
Anyway, just some thoughts. I'll post more if I think of it. Oh, I think the website for Music for Young Children is myc.com
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My brother was teaching electronics at Wentworth Institute in Boston years ago, but for the past 20 years has been working from home. He started with computer graphics and played in a band on weekends. Now he has a recording studio in the basement. He also gives some lessons at a music store. Music was always his first love.
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Hawkeye,
#239025 - 01/16/06 06:04 PM
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'm really glad you are mulling it over, and that you aren't jumping the gun. Another thing to remember is if you do go private, for Pete's sake, save for retirement too! Then again, you might be one of those guys who would do private lessons till you're 106 yeas old, LOL! I can tell you love the music.
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When I was learning orchestra-that was the time that i actually did well in Math. it's very closesly related to language development, and also to mathematics learning. music is critical, but hey, I'm just a special eddie, LOL!!
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Shannon - I'm on the council of a group that uses the arts to help students get better grades in math and english etc. It works specifically with high risk kids and students with disabilities. They found that using art, drama and music as a venue for learning certain concepts, the kids were capable of learning SO much better.
This program is getting national attention (we're getting national funding) and my friend who's the director has been working with Paul Gross and his wife!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wanna go with her the days she talks to Paul Gross (I'm a huge fan).
FYI - the influence Music has on learning is often known as the Mozart effect.
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I'll give you my 2 cents.
If you decide to stay...make it a challenge to get the kids interested. Make it a challenge to work with a budget, make the curric, and make it FUN! Be creative within the framework. If you have the desire and the passion and drive...you will be a star!  A long commute would def stress out most "non-IBS and anxiety" people. Most jobs have their stressors.....the question is: Do the positives out-weigh the negatives? Have you considered writing it all down in a column of pros/cons? I also like to write for ten minutes without picking up the pen (sometimes I write the word "and" for a whole page!) and try to keep on-topic and I am able to learn a heap about how I truly feel about something! (If ten minutes sounds daunting...maybe write a front and back side of a piece of paper...)
Feel free to run ideas by us. 
If you decide not to stay...good for you for being truly honest with yourself and moving on. You will find something else that is better suited to you.
Whatever YOU and your heart decide...it will be for the best. You already know what's best for you! You just have to do some soul searching to find out.
Have you read the Seven Habits of Highly Effective People? The author, Franklin Covey, speaks about how we must give in order to get back. Do you feel like you're giving enough? Were you EVER happy with your job? If you feel like you've given and given and GIVEN to your job and gotten nadda back...it might be time to turn to something else. But if you feel like there's more giving to do...perhaps it shall be done before leaving?
It is all up to you friend...and the answer lies within you! (Sorry to sound so corny but it really is true!) I hope you find it soon and that it should come without too much pain and with loads of growth, Nachas, and Simcha (joy!)
Take care...please do keep us posted!!!
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#239276 - 01/17/06 04:22 PM
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That's awesome! And yes, Paul Gross is a great actor!
It sounds like a wonderful council you're on, and I hope it spreads big time. I use music /rhythm to teach kayleigh how to spell things, and it works like a charm. That's why she knew how to spell kayleigh six months ago, LOL!
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her first teacher was freaking brilliant. her second one was so mean and exclusionary, and not to mention BORING, I pulled her out early! I was so disappointed, because I loved the program.
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